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the urban politician · #1 Posted **Feb 21, 2019, 2:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

I thought this article was pretty interesting, about a drive-through Starbucks coming to Bridgeport:
https://southsideweekly.com/a-starbu...ay-bridgeport/

And it’s suburban as hell. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggghhhhh!

Throw out our worthless planning department

urbanpln · #2 Posted **Feb 21, 2019, 3:54 PM**

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And it’s suburban as hell. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggghhhhh!

Throw out our worthless planning department

It's not DPD's fault. Most of the time DPD (staff) does everything in its power to shape how projects should fit into the urban fabric. The aldermen have tremendous power and can push projects like this through the zoning review process. In most cases the alderman has the support of the mayor's office. It's all about jobs and amenities, especially in the neighborhoods.

LouisVanDerWright · #3 Posted **Feb 21, 2019, 4:38 PM**

Starbucks is very regimented about their drive thru designs. They want it suburban so it's going to be suburban.

the urban politician · #4 Posted **Feb 21, 2019, 6:54 PM**

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Starbucks is very regimented about their drive thru designs. They want it suburban so it's going to be suburban.

Well the City doesn't need Starbucks, so fuck them.

We can dictate design standards to chains and we've done it before.

the urban politician · #5 Posted **Mar 6, 2019, 5:52 PM**

Why doesn't Disney do more long term shows in Chicago?

Anybody? They seem to have their more "permanent" presence in NYC, but I find that to be ill-guided.

Chicago gets nearly as much tourism, and much of it is the exact type of tourist that would love to see Disney shows like Beauty and the Beast, Alladin, etc. They could make huge bucks here, perhaps more than anywhere else except NYC itself.

The inspiration for this post is the news that Disney is bringing Frozen to Chicago for only 11 weeks in 2020. 11 weeks is awefully short.

Vlajos · #6 Posted **Feb 27, 2019, 11:29 PM**

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/comm...glut-nevermind

No glut of apartments downtown predicted for 2019.

Via Chicago · #7 Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 5:59 PM**

i dont know if you guys have actually seen the new LEDs, but i think theyre completely fine. its a more narrow focused band of light, but they seem to have them set up on the warmer end of the spectrum so its really not all that different. definitely not orange, but also definitely not the bright white/blues people were worried about (although they may have some set up on that spectrum on LSD, i cant recall). but the sidestreets and alleys are definitely in the yellow band and i dont find overly harsh.

https://energynews.us/2018/03/07/mid...d-controversy/

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Street lights are measured in kelvin, which designates the color temperature. The earlier generations of LED street lamps had temperatures as high as 4,000K or 5,000K. Chicago’s will be 3,000K and able to be dimmed remotely during off-peak times, meeting two of the three AMA guidelines.

Steely Dan · #8 Posted **Mar 8, 2019, 6:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Via Chicago

i dont know if you guys have actually seen the new LEDs, but i think theyre completely fine. its a more narrow focused band of light, but they seem to have them set up on the warmer end of the spectrum so its really not all that different.

i think the new LED lighting is pretty noticeably different, at least to me it is. every time i'm on one of the new LED streets, i notice the difference right away.

the new lighting isn't objectively bad, it's just different, and it will take some getting used to after an entire lifetime spent in chicago's marvelous orange glow at night.

i will miss the orange, but there are way too many good reasons to switch to LED.

SIGSEGV · #9 Posted **Mar 16, 2019, 11:44 PM**

Why were Conor McGregor and the Irish PM here?

emathias · #10 Posted **Mar 17, 2019, 1:51 PM**

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Why were Conor McGregor and the Irish PM here?

There can be only one.

emathias · #11 Posted **Mar 17, 2019, 1:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

No, not true. The city can still have basic design standards without having to intervene with every nook and cranny of life, but often they go way too far.

Simply put, ban streetfront parking on all commercial streets.

By street-front parking you mean strip-mall type parking, right? At first I thought you meant just plain street parking.

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

Why doesn't Disney do more long term shows in Chicago?

Anybody? They seem to have their more "permanent" presence in NYC, but I find that to be ill-guided.
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Wait, you're actually calling for increased and literal Disney-fication of Chicago? After all the criticism New York endures for doing that to Times Square?

the urban politician · #12 Posted **Mar 17, 2019, 3:07 PM**

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Wait, you're actually calling for increased and literal Disney-fication of Chicago? After all the criticism New York endures for doing that to Times Square?

Of course not. Obviously there is a difference between ‘Disnification’ of a city versus having resident Disney productions

RedCorsair87 · #13 Posted **Mar 17, 2019, 3:33 AM**

Ugh. Three parking lots and at least two undeveloped lots. We could be looking at up to FIVE supertalls here one day...

cozy · #14 Posted **Mar 17, 2019, 9:45 PM**

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...could be... ...one day...

I think readers skimmed past these key phrases in your post

bhawk66 · #15 Posted **Mar 17, 2019, 10:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by cozy

I think readers skimmed past these key phrases in your post

Nah, I read it. Just took it to mean someday while we're alive.

bhawk66 · #16 Posted **Mar 17, 2019, 10:16 PM**

It's an interesting topic of discussion. It probably deserves its own thread. This recent (years) building boom is eerily reminicent of the last one. Maybe the surrounding economic conditions don't mirror everything that went down prior to 2008...but if you don't see a pretty significant over-build going on, I don't know what else to add.

bhawk66 · #17 Posted **Mar 17, 2019, 7:29 PM**

^You think Chicago can support that? Maybe if like 2/3rds are foreigners who want a second home in Chicago. ...The business side will have to keep up with the residential side. And there are a lot of "young" and up-and-coming cities that are luring hot companies. Especially in warmer climates. Chicago is going to have to remain and increase there tourism viability and "vacation home" attractiveness. Just an opinion.

the urban politician · #18 Posted **Mar 17, 2019, 8:54 PM**

I definitely don’t see all of those lots all filling up with supertalls

PittsburghPA · #19 Posted **Mar 17, 2019, 10:26 PM**

I wasn't here in 2008 but it seems all of the statistics are showing that the residential market is still not satisfied. The commercial projects (110 N Wacker, Salesforce, OPO) have anchor tenants or large commitments already and the West Loop commercial built on spec are filling up long before they are even finished with construction.

I don't see how the two booms could be reminiscent of eachother

bhawk66 · #20 Posted **Mar 18, 2019, 12:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by PittsburghPA

I wasn't here in 2008 but it seems all of the statistics are showing that the residential market is still not satisfied. The commercial projects (110 N Wacker, Salesforce, OPO) have anchor tenants or large commitments already and the West Loop commercial built on spec are filling up long before they are even finished with construction.

I don't see how the two booms could be reminiscent of eachother

Well, you may be about to find out...

Maybe not this year, but it's coming. So predictable when a free market has greedy developers and bankers. All these million dollar condos by the hundreds, is not a sustainable situation in Chicago. I just read in the article posted here that the Bennet 2 bedrooms are starting at a cool 2 million each. It goes up from there. Vista? 1000 S. Mich? Nema? Essex? OCS? Really?? Now throw in Tribune Tower, LSD whatever-its-called? And Amazon said piss off because your weather and crime suck. Okay. Let's see.

Also, can we talk about the term "anchor tenant"? What percentage of the massive WPS building is Salesforce occupying?

Call me dubious.