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Old Posted Dec 20, 2013, 8:37 PM
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I'm so used to hearing from people who don't like Trainyards it's weird to hear retailers and consumers like it so much.

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Retailers find more bang for their buck at the Train Yards

Michael Prentice, Published on December 20, 2013

Marlene Shepherd, doyenne of Ottawa’s fashion retailers, says she took “an educated risk” when she opened a Shepherd’s Fashions store in April 2012 at the Train Yards retail shopping complex.

She wondered whether her well-heeled and fashion-conscious clients – accustomed to shopping at her stores in the Rideau Centre and Bayshore indoor shopping malls – would go out of their way to visit her new location in an industrial area beside the Ottawa train station.

After almost two years of business in the Train Yards, Ms. Shepherd now says she need not have worried.

“It’s great, amazing, beyond expectations,” she says. “It satisfies the needs of customers who want to park at the door of the store.”

If tenant satisfaction with the mall is any indication, the Train Yards has surpassed all expectations.

The mall is among a growing number of large shopping complexes in which each store is separate, with no connecting indoor space for customers.

Some people think of the Train Yards as an east-end location, but Ms. Shepherd says it isn’t.

“It’s very central, and just one exit off the Queensway from Nicholas Street. It’s almost downtown, there is lots of free parking, and it has more ways for motorists to get in and out than Bayshore has.”

The Shepherd’s store at the Train Yards has more than twice the floor space of Ms. Shepherd’s former location in the Bayshore Shopping Centre. She closed the Bayshore store in July 2013 after deciding to move out during the expansion of the west-end indoor mall.

She says she’s undecided between returning to the mall when expansion is completed or finding a new location in Kanata. She continues to have a store in the Rideau Centre.

The extra space at the Train Yards store allows Ms. Shepherd to offer more choice and to expand her product line to include gift items, home decor and furniture. She says she’s now doing more sales volume than she did at Bayshore.

Rent for the Train Yards can be about half as much per square foot as for space in large indoor shopping malls like the Rideau Centre and Bayshore, according to Ottawa retail analyst Barry Nabatian, director of market research for Shore Tanner & Associates.

But there is more to it than just savings in rent, says Mr. Nabatian. Tenants of indoor malls must pay communal costs of operating the shopping centre as well as any other costs imposed by the landlord.

Ms. Shepherd says she likes the increased freedom to run her business the way she wants.

“We decide our own hours,” she says. “There is no advertising budget (to promote the shopping complex), and no percentage rent.”

Another happy tenant of the Train Yards is Sail, which sells a vast array of sporting goods. Sail picked the Train Yards for its only Ottawa-area store because of where it is.

“It’s probably the best location we could have picked,” says Richard Viger, Sail’s marketing director. “It’s great for our customers from both Ontario and Quebec,” he says, noting that the store is just a few minutes’ drive from bridges across the Ottawa River.

Quebec-based Sail has nine stores, and the Train Yards store ranks among the best in sales volume, Mr. Viger says.

“It’s very easy for customers coming by car to get in and out of the Train Yards,” he adds. “The developers have done a great job with the project, and there are lots of well-known retailers.”

With renovations under way at Bayshore and the Rideau Centre to go along with new space being added at Lansdowne Park, Ottawa is currently in an unprecedented retail expansion boom. But don’t expect the Train Yards to be left behind.

The site currently has about 650,000 square feet of retail space. Marty Koshman, president of Ottawa Train Yards Inc., which manages the complex, told OBJ he expects about 250,000 square feet of retail space to be added in the next two or three years. He says he’s talking to prospective tenants, but declined to name them.
http://www.obj.ca/Opinion/2013-12-20...-Train-Yards/1
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2013, 6:12 PM
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I'm so used to hearing from people who don't like Trainyards it's weird to hear retailers and consumers like it so much.



http://www.obj.ca/Opinion/2013-12-20...-Train-Yards/1
I think the key is the rent costs. If it is less than half that of, say, the Rideau Centre or Bayshore, it would be just as effective and profitable even with less traffic.
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I think the key is the rent costs. If it is less than half that of, say, the Rideau Centre or Bayshore, it would be just as effective and profitable even with less traffic.
I think for car users the free parking is a big plus over Rideau as well as it being easier to access than Rideau. Bus access is worse but with the city wide ridership levels on OC I think retail can overall survive without it. That isn't to say bus access doesn't help. Rideau felt a pinch during the bus strike, but I think it is possible to run retail without provided you have sufficient parking.

I doubt stuff in the east end and Bayshore are competing much. Neither is that special that many people are going to drive across the city.
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Place D'Orleans Mall:

The Roots store is now closed. (Please visit our St-Laurent mall location) a sign says.

So is the MiniPort kids play place next to the food court. (Exciting store coming soon.)
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Place D'Orleans Mall:

The Roots store is now closed. (Please visit our St-Laurent mall location) a sign says.

So is the MiniPort kids play place next to the food court. (Exciting store coming soon.)
Wow. I don't get the impression Roots closes stores that often. It's not really a company that makes ''mistakes''.
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Wow. I don't get the impression Roots closes stores that often. It's not really a company that makes ''mistakes''.
I don't know about that. They had a major US expansion in the late 90s/early 00s after the hats at the 98 olympics, and those stores have all closed. Meanwhile, their Bloor Street flagship http://www.retail-insider.com/2013/0...y-and-its.html

It also donwgraded it's Rideau Centre store a few years ago, (remember how it used to be on the main level where Lacoste is now?). I wouldn't say they don't make mistakes, but one thing they seem to do right is not hang on to legacy projects for emotional reasons when business isn't as good as it was, which is definitely a good thing for the longevity of their brand, it seems.
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Heard from someone that major changes coming to Place D'Orleans in the near future in order to make room for new major retail stores. They have been quietly moving some stores to make room - The Source, Claire's, Roots, Stitch It...

Not sure what will happen with the space the miniport place occupied upstairs. Families with young children (including mine) will miss that place.
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Thanks for the info everyone. Then it might not be a case of Place d'Orléans being in trouble after all.
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I don't know about that. They had a major US expansion in the late 90s/early 00s after the hats at the 98 olympics, and those stores have all closed. Meanwhile, their Bloor Street flagship http://www.retail-insider.com/2013/0...y-and-its.html

It also donwgraded it's Rideau Centre store a few years ago, (remember how it used to be on the main level where Lacoste is now?). I wouldn't say they don't make mistakes, but one thing they seem to do right is not hang on to legacy projects for emotional reasons when business isn't as good as it was, which is definitely a good thing for the longevity of their brand, it seems.
I wandered into the Roots at Bayshore last week, as I hadn't been in one in many years. All I saw was sweatshirts, ball caps and really cheaply made t-shirts. I just don't see the appeal... maybe others aren't either.
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Old Posted Jan 19, 2014, 7:32 PM
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Heard from someone that major changes coming to Place D'Orleans in the near future in order to make room for new major retail stores. They have been quietly moving some stores to make room - The Source, Claire's, Roots, Stitch It...

Not sure what will happen with the space the miniport place occupied upstairs. Families with young children (including mine) will miss that place.
I can't say I noticed any change to Stitch It, but I was at Place today and the Bluenotes, directly beside the old Roots location, is now having a store closing sale as well.

Also, the GameStop is being renovated but the signs say that it's changing to an EBGames. I know they're the same company, but if they're consolidating their two stores in to one, I wonder what will happen to to the old location over by Tiggy Winkles.

All in all I hope this is all to make room for some decent stores. Kind of sad to see so many locations boarded up with drywall.
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The TD Bank on the corner of Holland and Wellington is closing -- hopefully the ugly building will be demolished. Also, Harvest Loaf on Wellington is closed. All according to my nonna.
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The TD Bank on the corner of Holland and Wellington is closing -- hopefully the ugly building will be demolished. Also, Harvest Loaf on Wellington is closed. All according to my nonna.
Wow! Well, I'm just guessing, but the space occupied by Harvest Loaf could potentially get bought out by the GastroPub. I think there is a craft brew business happening there now (via Canadian Beer News, Ottawa Magazine) and they may need the space to make larger quantities. Plus, it wouldn't hurt them to have some street-level presence.
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The TD Bank on the corner of Holland and Wellington is closing -- hopefully the ugly building will be demolished.
I had an appointment there last night, and the bank employee told me that it's the location at Holland and Scott that is closing.
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Old Posted Jan 23, 2014, 2:55 PM
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Yeah, we got a letter to that effect as well; all HollandX accounts are being transferred to the WestWelli-Holland branch
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I had an appointment there last night, and the bank employee told me that it's the location at Holland and Scott that is closing.
Aaaah, I see. There must have been a mix-up in messages. Darn... That building is just so ugly, and I so excited that potentially we'd get something new there.
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Frank and Oak (https://www.frankandoak.com/) has opened a pop up store on Sparks Street (https://www.facebook.com/events/1378567699070413/), and from what I've heard from a guy that works there, it has been VERY popular! The guy (who happens to be their brand development head) also said they were very happy with the location and were getting a higher than expected volume of foot traffic.

I visited on Wednesday around 8 and the store was literally PACKED. Walked by again last night around 8 after drinks @ Darcy's and it was pretty busy again! I think this goes to show that if there is a retail destination on Sparks/reason to go, then crowds will come, even after working hours.
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Frank and Oak (https://www.frankandoak.com/) has opened a pop up store on Sparks Street (https://www.facebook.com/events/1378567699070413/), and from what I've heard from a guy that works there, it has been VERY popular! The guy (who happens to be their brand development head) also said they were very happy with the location and were getting a higher than expected volume of foot traffic.

I visited on Wednesday around 8 and the store was literally PACKED. Walked by again last night around 8 after drinks @ Darcy's and it was pretty busy again! I think this goes to show that if there is a retail destination on Sparks/reason to go, then crowds will come, even after working hours.
It was also mentioned on Sparks Street's Twitter account today too (and subsequently retweeted by Frank and Oak).
Here's the tweet via @SparksStreet.

* The shop is only open until Sunday, Jan 26, 2014.

There's an Instagram link in this post via @FrankandOak that shows how busy it was yesterday.

Hopefully this will be a positive sign of things to come for Sparks...
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What the heck is a pop up store?
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What the heck is a pop up store?
Pop-up retail, also known as pop-up store (pop-up shop in the UK and Australia) or flash retailing, is a trend of opening short-term sales spaces.

-Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop-up_retail)
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Pop-up retail, also known as pop-up store (pop-up shop in the UK and Australia) or flash retailing, is a trend of opening short-term sales spaces.

-Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop-up_retail)
So it might be a pilot project to test the Ottawa market.
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