NEW YORK | 150 Greenwich St. | 977 FT / 297 M | 72 FLOORS - Page 53

colemonkee · #**1041** Posted **Sep 9, 2010, 6:00 PM**

Taking a good look at those renders of the base, I'd wager that it'll be a little while before we really see this thing take off vertically. That double-height floor on the east and north side of the base looks like it's supported by really wide spans between the columns, which will probably have to be encased in concrete. And while they don't necessarily support the rest of the tower, they probably bear some small percentage of lateral loads, so they'll probably case those columns in concrete before moving vertical with the regular tower floors, like they did with the floors below it.

Just my two "armchair engineer" cents.

Obey · #**1042** Posted **Sep 9, 2010, 9:33 PM**

Nice lookin' base. I like the black marble.

patriotizzy · #**1043** Posted **Sep 9, 2010, 10:38 PM**

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It will be over 200 feet taller than the black building next to it which is 1 Liberty Plaza.

1 Liberty Plaza = 743 feet
4 WTC = 975 feet

Sweet. I was hoping it would as all the WTC buildings should be very prominent in the skyline

NYguy · #**1044** Posted **Sep 11, 2010, 8:21 AM**

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Originally Posted by colemonkee

Taking a good look at those renders of the base, I'd wager that it'll be a little while before we really see this thing take off vertically. That double-height floor
on the east and north side of the base looks like it's supported by really wide spans between the columns, which will probably have to be encased in concrete.

Yeah, the base is not fully complete, going from the renders...

Meanwhile, a couple of clips....

ny1.com

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An amazing 24 hour time-lapse video from msnbc...

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...85208#39085208

NYguy · #**1045** Posted **Sep 12, 2010, 4:57 AM**

Easy height comparison between towers 4 and 1...

bkusler

NYguy · #**1046** Posted **Sep 12, 2010, 6:03 AM**

From wtc.com

brian.odonnell20 · #**1047** Posted **Sep 12, 2010, 5:17 PM**

why does the structural steel seem so randomly placed ?

BStyles · #**1048** Posted **Sep 12, 2010, 6:18 PM**

They are trusses for heavy equipment on the mechanical floors.

Dac150 · #**1049** Posted **Sep 12, 2010, 6:54 PM**

The height of that lobby is incredible.

NYguy · #**1050** Posted **Sep 13, 2010, 7:31 PM**

SEPTEMBER 12, 2010

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NYC4Life · #**1051** Posted **Sep 13, 2010, 10:16 PM**

Those underground levels themselves can be a building.

colemonkee · #**1052** Posted **Sep 13, 2010, 11:32 PM**

What goes in those lower levels, anyway? Offices? Retail? Mechanicals? Secret Development Labs for Superheroes?

winlinmac001 · #**1053** Posted **Sep 14, 2010, 12:17 AM**

Most likely for retail, link to transportation facilities, gold vaults, and very tight security.

Lecom · #**1054** Posted **Sep 14, 2010, 12:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by colemonkee

What goes in those lower levels, anyway? Offices? Retail? Mechanicals? Secret Development Labs for Superheroes?

They are meant to work together with the neighboring buildings as a single underground complex. Having seen the plans, I won't elaborate much, but I can't imagine how the hell they're going to make things work without at least the basement levels for towers 2&3 as well as the Path terminal. Think of loading docks that would face the abyss of an undeveloped pit where access ramps should have been.

NYguy · #**1055** Posted **Sep 14, 2010, 1:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Lecom

They are meant to work together with the neighboring buildings as a single underground complex. Having seen the plans, I won't elaborate much, but I can't imagine how the hell they're going to make things work without at least the basement levels for towers 2&3 as well as the Path terminal.

That's exactly why everything is going to be built now. Silverstein knew all of those pieces had to go together.

winlinmac001 · #**1056** Posted **Sep 15, 2010, 1:40 AM**

But aren't they going to put gold vaults (like the previous WTC complex) and mechanical equipment in those lower levels?

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Originally Posted by NYguy

That's exactly why everything is going to be built now. Silverstein knew all of those pieces had to go together.

NYguy · #**1057** Posted **Sep 15, 2010, 3:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by winlinmac001

But aren't they going to put gold vaults (like the previous WTC complex) and mechanical equipment in those lower levels?

The first 2 sublevels will be retail...

NYCLuver · #**1058** Posted **Sep 16, 2010, 5:39 AM**

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NYC4Life · #**1060** Posted **Sep 20, 2010, 5:23 AM**

Always good to see more steel installed at this site. Now if it can just take off like WTC1 at the other end of that pit