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Originally Posted by Pinoy2.0
wouldn't that be a win win for everyone? New station and MSG can build a stadium that's not archaic...? Sphere 2.0 on top of a new MSG would be great haha
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A new arena, yes. On site. MSG isn't moving anywhere, and it's time everyone figured out they're stuck with MSG in it's current location. The constant chatter of "moving" MSG is a waste of everyone's time, and gets nothing done. It's the reason that the parties that are actually involved in this whole scenario (rebuilding Penn) aren't asking for it to be moved.
https://www.chelseanewsny.com/news/1...ever-FN2690979
11th Hr. Appeal: Local Bars, Other Small Business Owners, Urge City Council to Renew MSG’s Special Permit Forever
Nearly two dozen small businesses, including a dozen pubs, one real estate tower, two parking garages and the Manhattan Chamber of Commerce, sent a last minute appeal to the City Council asking its committee to recommend renewing in perpetuity the special permit that Madison Square Garden needs to operate the arena above Penn Station. But the Council’s landuse and franschise sub committee voted on Monday, Aug. 28 to only grant a five extension. It still must go to the full City Council for a vote next month before the permit lenght is finalized.
MICHAEL ORESKES
28 AUG 2023
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A raft of restaurants, bars and other businesses around Madison Square Garden–saying the Garden’s crowds provided much of their business–appealed to the City Council to give the arena a new permit to operate permanently.
The eleventh hour appeal came as the Council worked toward an August 28th deadline to decide on whether, or for how long, to grant The Garden a new permit to operate and on what conditions, including what MSG will be required to do to facilitate the reconstruction of Penn Station beneath it.
“Madison Square Garden is the economic lifeblood of our community, not only employing thousands but attracting many thousands more to local businesses all year round,” the businesses wrote in a letter to the speaker of the Council, Adrienne Adams and three pivotal members, Erik Bottcher, who represents the neighborhood, Rafael Salamanca Jr., who chairs the land use committee and Kevin Riley, chair of the subcommittee on zoning and franchises.
“With its ability to operate at full capacity for the long term now at stake, we urge you to approve its request to renew its special operating permit in perpetuity”
The letter was signed by twenty local eating and drinking establishments, two parking garages and the Manhattan Chamber of Commerce.
“Our establishments are located within walking distance of The Garden, and we rely on the arena for a great deal of our evening and weekend business.”
Richard Constable, The Executive Vice President of MSG Enertainment, which owns the Garden said: “Our local businesses understand how important Madison Square Garden is to their neighborhood and we appreciate their ongoing support.”
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https://www.thecity.nyc/2023/8/28/23...t-penn-station
Five-Year Madison Square Garden Permit Inflates Pressure to Play Ball
A City Council committee shrinks the timeline for the Midtown arena’s operation as Penn Station plans hang in the balance.
BY GABRIEL POBLETE
AUG 28, 2023
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The local Council member stressed his desire for the owners of the famed arena to play ball with transit agencies in rehabilitating Penn Station, which is located underneath MSG.
During a Zoning and Franchises subcommittee meeting, Councilmember Erik Bottcher (D-Manhattan), whose district includes the complex, said that an antiquated loading setup for concerts and other events clashed with the intensifying transit activity underneath the Garden.
“Because of this use conflict, at this time the Council cannot determine the long-term viability of an arena at this location,” Bottcher said. “Therefore five years is an appropriate term for this special permit.”
Bottcher said the Council would require the development of a transportation management plan. The permit now goes to the full Council, where it is expected to be approved. Mayor Eric Adams has the power to review the permit and veto it if he chooses.
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MSG Entertainment issued a statement shortly after the vote, calling the Land Use Committee’s decision disappointing.
“A short-term special permit is not in anyone’s best interest and undermines the ability to immediately revamp Penn Station and the surrounding area,” the statement reads. “The committees have done a grave disservice to New Yorkers today, in a shortsighted move that will further contribute to the erosion of the City – that’s true now and will be true five years from now.”
For years now, neighborhood advocates and elected officials have called for MSG to leave its home atop Penn Station, arguing the arena stood in the way of train station improvements. When the City Council last renewed the arena’s special permit a decade ago, Council members said Dolan should look to move the world-famous arena elsewhere.
But MSG executives have made clear they are not budging. Since it owns the property, getting MSG to move elsewhere or denying them the permit could be extraordinarily costly, with a state-estimated price tag of $8.6 billion.
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In a June letter to the City Planning Commission, MSG Entertainment executive vice president Richard Constable said that while the group is willing to work with the railroads, that doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll give up their property.
“As we have discussed with Department of City Planning staff, MSG’s commitment to partner with the Rail Agencies does not, in any way, mean that MSG must offer easements on our private property, or offer to transfer ownership of our private property, at less than fair market value,” Constable said in the letter.
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