Gas Prices - Page 52

Bdawe · #**1021** Posted **Apr 8, 2020, 4:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by misher

Even most pro tax socialists in this forum would agree 50%+ is too high.

Why would anyone want to breath more pollution and see more carbon emissions just because oil prices fell?

GeeCee · #**1022** Posted **Apr 8, 2020, 11:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by misher

Even most pro tax socialists in this forum would agree 50%+ is too high.

All one has to do is think about the subject for a moment or two to realize that there are particular reasons why the taxes are fixed where they are. Unless you'd like to be paying a lot more in taxes when the price of gas is back to normal? Yeah, I didn't think so.

bluefox · #**1023** Posted **Apr 8, 2020, 11:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by misher

Even most pro tax socialists in this forum would agree 50%+ is too high.

It's not "50%" though.

That's like me saying I spent $2 on a bottle of pop but $8 on a sandwich one day, and then $2 on a bottle of pop and only $5 on a sandwich the next day, so now the bottle of pop is too expensive.

The taxes are fixed at cents per litre for a reason. They should be insulated to protect that funding source for transit and infrastructure against an inelastic commodity that itself does not have a fixed cost to consumers. As GeeCee said, 50% tax would mean $2/litre gas has $1 in taxes, which, naturally, people would lose their minds over.

Unless, of course, you want to pay more property tax, in which case I'd be happy to have that discussion.

a very long weekend · #**1024** Posted **Apr 9, 2020, 6:29 PM**

Gas taxes are good.

misher · #**1025** Posted **Apr 9, 2020, 6:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by a very long weekend

Gas taxes are good.

Then we should double the gas taxes in every other province to match Vancouvers

Changing City · #**1026** Posted **Apr 9, 2020, 7:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by misher

Then we should double the gas taxes in every other province to match Vancouvers

That sounds like you've got a great idea. I think you should visit those provinces, and tell them your idea. Maybe start with Alberta - but not this weekend, they don't want you driving there.

GenWhy? · #**1027** Posted **Apr 9, 2020, 8:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by misher

Then we should double the gas taxes in every other province to match Vancouvers

Largely happened with Carbon Taxes being introduced. When Alberta launched its Carbon Tax, a good segment of it went to transit into a program that started in 2008 and ended in 2016 but it was based on grants and not a reliable, consistent and predictable source of monies that municipalities could reliably plan / forecast on, as well as the "City Charter" (much like how Vancouver is treated in BC), but all that was scrapped recently.

What's interesting is that the BC referendum on more dedicated transit funding failed, and yet TransLink takes (roughly speaking) over $1,000 per new unit of apartment housing built. So in truth, you could lower the gas tax, and raise it elsewhere to maintain or increase funding to expand transit. Or, like in Alberta, just de-fund it regularly and have usage drop year after year.

Trainguy · #**1028** Posted **Apr 10, 2020, 7:58 PM**

gas was .899 the other evening at 104th and 152nd esso. minus 3 cents discount and .869 haven't seen that in at least a decade

MIPS · #**1029** Posted **Apr 13, 2020, 3:08 AM**

Passing through Chilliwack today, Petro-Canada at Young Road was selling Regular at 79.9. Did not see it cheaper anywhere else between Arbutus Ridge and Kamloops.

Dengler Avenue · #**1030** Posted **Apr 13, 2020, 3:32 AM**

Woah woah woah below $1 in Metro Vancouver? That’s new!

flipper316 · #**1031** Posted **Apr 13, 2020, 6:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Woah woah woah below $1 in Metro Vancouver? That’s new!

It's been like that for weeks now. Where have you been haha.

Trainguy · #**1032** Posted **Apr 20, 2020, 7:52 PM**

The price of oil keeps going down but the price at the pump isn't following. Pcan was 99.9 this morning at KG and 96th.

Edmonton 57.9 and dropping..

Alex Mackinnon · #**1033** Posted **Apr 20, 2020, 8:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Trainguy

The price of oil keeps going down but the price at the pump isn't following. Pcan was 99.9 this morning at KG and 96th.

Edmonton 57.9 and dropping..

That's what happens when refining costs and taxes are fixed. Only the variable costs go down

MIPS · #**1034** Posted **Apr 30, 2020, 3:00 AM**

It's doing that thing again where the prices are weird.

Tri-cities are varying between 79.9 and 85.9. Kamloops is 94.9 (edited: We're now $1.059) and for some reason chunks of the Okanagan are between 95.9 and $1.069

News is still saying it's increased demand.

GeeCee · #**1035** Posted **Apr 30, 2020, 10:29 AM**

I'd like to know what the hell is up with that one Fas Gas on 108th in Surrey that has kept the price pinned at 132.9.

lubicon · #**1036** Posted **Apr 30, 2020, 6:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by MIPS

It's doing that thing again where the prices are weird.

Tri-cities are varying between 79.9 and 85.9. Kamloops is 94.9 (edited: We're now $1.059) and for some reason chunks of the Okanagan are between 95.9 and $1.069

News is still saying it's increased demand.

It's likely supply and demand becoming more in balance. Refineries have cut way back on production to match the reduced demand and it's now reflected in pump prices.

MIPS · #**1037** Posted **Apr 30, 2020, 6:47 PM**

I mean, that makes sense but normally it's the lower mainland that gets shafted first before we feel it.

misher · #**1038** Posted **Apr 30, 2020, 7:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by MIPS

I mean, that makes sense but normally it's the lower mainland that gets shafted first before we feel it.

Because any increase/decrease is multiplied by multiple taxes.

CanSpice · #**1039** Posted **Apr 30, 2020, 11:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by misher

Because any increase/decrease is multiplied by multiple taxes.

Wrong. The only tax that isn't constant is GST, and that applies across the country. Every other single tax on gas is a fixed rate.

misher · #**1040** Posted **May 1, 2020, 12:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by CanSpice

Wrong. The only tax that isn't constant is GST, and that applies across the country. Every other single tax on gas is a fixed rate.

Hmm, dope. Your right.