The Canadian Electric Vehicle thread

[Acajack]

Since a few people have asked:

I have a Ford Mustang Mach-E.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Since a few people have asked:

I have a Ford Mustang Mach-E.

Nice!

Tell us how you find the experience. And the changeover.

[Architype]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Since a few people have asked:

I have a Ford Mustang Mach-E.

Nice, but not a real Mustang (had to be said), and reportedly even the base model can do 0 - 60 in 5.2 seconds, fast enough to scare old ladies, dogs, and small children, but won't win any real races. I've also noticed, some EV owners are hesitant to park indoors.

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Since a few people have asked:

I have a Ford Mustang Mach-E.

Congratulations!

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Since a few people have asked:

I have a Ford Mustang Mach-E.

That's cool! Got a photo?

[Wigs]

Originally Posted by Architype

Nice, but not a real Mustang (had to be said), and reportedly even the base model can do 0 - 60 in 5.2 seconds, fast enough to scare old ladies, dogs, and small children, but won't win any real races. I've noticed anecdotally, some EV owners are hesitant to park indoors.

Funny how it's not a real Mustang, yet that's faster 0-60 than what 85% of every ICE Mustang ever built

[Architype]

Originally Posted by Wigs

Funny how it's not a real Mustang, yet that's faster 0-60 than what 85% of every ICE Mustang ever built

^ Not necessarily true, older cars just weren't as fast. IDK, are you defending the name choice, what's next, a Corvette minivan?
EVs have no "soul", and resale value is dubious when the battery expires. Oh, and they may not win the drag race in the long stretch because the top speed may be limited.
I'm not an EV hater, but these are facts AFAIK (many cans of worms there).

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Architype

Nice, but not a real Mustang (had to be said), and reportedly even the base model can do 0 - 60 in 5.2 seconds, fast enough to scare old ladies, dogs, and small children, but won't win any real races. I've also noticed, some EV owners are hesitant to park indoors.

Yeah, my dad is a big Mustang fan, so he teases me about that. Though he still loves the car.

[Architype]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Yeah, my dad is a big Mustang fan, so he teases me about that. Though he still loves the car.

I was a Camaro owner in my youth, but Mustangs were nice too.

[Architype]

Drag Race! Ford Mustang Mach-E vs Shelby GT500 | Which Mustang Is Faster?
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[Wigs]

Originally Posted by Architype

^ Not necessarily true, older cars just weren't as fast. IDK, are you defending the name choice, what's next, a Corvette minivan?
EVs have no "soul", and resale value is dubious when the battery expires. Oh, and they may not win the drag race in the long stretch because the top speed may be limited.
I'm not an EV hater, but these are facts AFAIK (many cans of worms there).

Once you buy an EV you'll eventually forget the no soul part. You'll be thankful it's not leaking fluids like a sieve and other bs maintenance of ICE cars
Drag races are 1/4 mile. Acajack is fine against most

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

Nice!

Tell us how you find the experience. And the changeover.

At least to me, there is no tangible difference compared to my old ICE vehicle.

I picked it over the Tesla (was on their order waiting list in fact) because I am tall guy and the Mach-E is more roomy inside, and I find the interior of the Tesla is very utilitarian. Ford's been making vehicles for a long time and knows about aesthetics.

As I've said before, it basically costs nothing to drive it around town. I only charge at home and sometimes I go a couple of days without charging at all. I charge to 80% when at home which is more than enough for anything I need to do in the wider metro area.

If I am going out of town I will set the charge to 100%.

I did a couple of minor road trips this summer and yes you need to stop more often than with an ICE vehicle. Some people say that's annoying but overall in terms of how much time it takes out of my life, I probably come out even because I don't have any gas station stops at all in my everyday life at home anymore.

General impressions from the road trips I did were that Quebec's Circuit Électrique and affiliated networks are awesome and cheap. Ontario isn't too bad, plus Circuit Électrique is in eastern parts of Ontario. Regions of the US near my home (so the NE) are still easily do-able in an electric vehicle but not as user-friendly as Quebec, plus it's more expensive down there. Still a lot cheaper than gas, though.

I am not a big car buff but performance to me seems really good relative to other vehicles I've had. If you press down on the accelerator from a standstill there is no delay and your back and butt is pushed back into the seat like an airplane at takeoff.

So, so far so good. I am eagerly awaiting really cold days this winter to see how the range is affected by the temperature. I do have garage to park it in and will be able to pre-condition (ie warm it up) while it is still plugged in.

We don't do long-range commuting, plus we don't do long winter road trips either so that's not a huge concern for us.

I am not too concerned about how it handles in the snow as I have AWD plus it weighs a ton as the entire undercarriage of the vehicle is the battery.

[Nouvellecosse]

Sure EVs have no soul, but neither do ICE vehicles. Because souls aren't real. They're just externalizations of human emotional responses to certain things, typically related to nostalgia or sentimentality. We just project these emotional responses onto external targets as if they were traits of the target rather than of ourselves.

[Architype]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

Sure EVs have no soul, but neither do ICE vehicles. Because souls aren't real. They're just externalizations of human emotional responses to certain things, typically related to nostalgia or sentimentality. We just project these emotional responses onto external targets as if they were traits of the target rather than of ourselves.

Yeah, but that's how they put it, of course it's not literal; but there will be no auto culture with EVs like with ICE. There is a big enthusiast modding culture with ICE, people so inclined can customize & individualize, which you can't do with electric motors and a big battery. Cars are anthropomorphic, we are quite "attached" to them; do you relate to your dishwasher or toaster the same way? For your next argument, of course, you can rationalize and allude to the horse & buggy era, but they were mostly limited to 4 horsepower.

[whatnext]

Alex on Autos has a review of the Toyota Mirai which compares it to his Mach-E. Apparently the hydrogen Mirai has double the amount of energy onboard when fully fuelled compared to a fully charged Mach-E. At that's with the Mustang carrying around a 1,200 lb battery.

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[kwoldtimer]

Will it be available in B.C. (only?)?

[Mister F]

Originally Posted by Architype

Yeah, but that's how they put it, of course it's not literal; but there will be no auto culture with EVs like with ICE. There is a big enthusiast modding culture with ICE, people so inclined can customize & individualize, which you can't do with electric motors and a big battery. Cars are anthropomorphic, we are quite "attached" to them; do you relate to your dishwasher or toaster the same way? For your next argument, of course, you can rationalize and allude to the horse & buggy era, but they were mostly limited to 4 horsepower.

Given that we've structured our entire society around auto culture in the last 70 years and accepted massive negative impacts that come from that, reducing auto culture is exactly what we need.

[harls]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Since a few people have asked:

I have a Ford Mustang Mach-E.

Very nice.

My mom has the GT version - I got to test it out a month ago back in Manitoba.
My dad just got confirmation of his f-150 lightning delivery for December today.

[Nouvellecosse]

Originally Posted by Architype

Yeah, but that's how they put it, of course it's not literal; but there will be no auto culture with EVs like with ICE. There is a big enthusiast modding culture with ICE, people so inclined can customize & individualize, which you can't do with electric motors and a big battery. Cars are anthropomorphic, we are quite "attached" to them; do you relate to your dishwasher or toaster the same way? For your next argument, of course, you can rationalize and allude to the horse & buggy era, but they were mostly limited to 4 horsepower.

My next argument? I'm simply stating how human perception works. The only response needed is to correct the false claim that there will be no enthusiast culture with EVs because there already is. There are already numerous EV clubs, youtube channels, EV design and range competitions, and esports such as the formula E etc. And there were EV enthusiasts even before Tesla helped make EVs mainstream. There were people whose hobby was to convert ICE cars into EVs for instance and competitions where people design and build EVs from scratch. If anything, there's more opportunity for this since the simplicity of EVs makes the task more accessible to people with less engineering knowledge. I remember seeing TV segments of people doing stuff like below before Teslas even existed.

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Sure the EV scene isn't as big as with ICE culture yet but there's not nearly as many of them so that's not surprising.

[Nouvellecosse]

Just try doing a search for terms like "EV enthusiast", "EV club" or "Tesla club" and see all the search results you get. I'm sure it's more than for dishwasher or toaster club despite the latter products being far more ubiquitous.