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These changes, including new pavement markings for the transit-only lane
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2017, 1:52 AM
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The R line is a disaster.
Yeah well, I've been saying that for years. And taken plenty of forum flak for it. Nothing beats being right. Total. Waste. Of money. Between the R and the W, we have all the arguments we need against future investment in light rail.
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2017, 2:16 AM
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I want a red carpet!

I would expect nothing less!

Gotta apply for experimentation with FHWA to put in red treatment though. And Denver also has the second worst freeze/thaw that plagues our thermoplastic. But I'd imagine something different being implemented for sure.
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What's this? An all-day dedicated transit lane for Denver?
I'm glad to see they're finally extending this bike lane to get some meaningful information as I'm unsure what a 4 block study was supposed to accomplish in the corridor (biking from the Design District to the Skylark doesn't seem super high demand?). Still I'm not sure we will see the potential in this study unless it's extended to Brighton Blvd. to the north, Platt Park in the south, and Cherry Creek and Wash Park to the east. At this point I just find it easier to use Bannock, Grant, and Logan which do just fine.

I'd almost rather see a study on expanding the sidewalks on the east side of Broadway to allow for patio seating and more room for pedestrians. Sadly, don't think there's any mention of that in the S Broadway plan
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You could build a "red carpet" but then never enforce its transit-only use, like we do in my area. Kind of like cars in the middle of intersections/crosswalks during every light cycle on any route heading to I-5.
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^ How about intead of a red carpet an orange and royal blue one like on the RTD buses and trains? Oh wait that would look like an old Broncos jersey-we could do purple and silver around Coors Field and Nugget and Avs colors around Pepsi Center plus Rapids colors around Dick's Field as well..
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RTD is sued again by the Colorado Cross-Disability Coalition. http://www.rtd-denver.com/settlement.shtml

Judging by the documents, RTD will remove 16(!) seats in order to make room for an extra-large wheelchair area, far in excess of the 30"X48" required by the ADA.
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TOD We can Strive For

Pretty cool "true" TOD project approved today in my former city that incorporates a streetcar stop into the design (a future extension to their new basketball arena/entertainment district will do the same).

I find it pretty perplexing that other regional cities that are smaller and aren't getting near the national hype Denver is for growth and popularity (Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Kansas City) have been able to develop SOME intracity transit, along with admittedly higher quality infill, while we've been seemingly dropping the ball. Would have loved to see the Civic Center redevelopment augment or include some sort of LRT/streetcar spur up and down Broadway similar to this.


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Old Posted Apr 19, 2017, 12:27 AM
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Another new international route for DIA to be announced tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/cprwarner/status/854398229860974592
https://twitter.com/MayorHancock/status/854443034007687168

Given the timing one week after Norwegian's add and the fact that neither Ryan Warner nor the mayor's tweets mention a new airline, it must be an existing one. My betting money is on United retaliating by restarting DEN-LHR, though I guess we'll see tomorrow!
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Pretty cool "true" TOD project approved today in my former city that incorporates a streetcar stop into the design (a future extension to their new basketball arena/entertainment district will do the same).

I find it pretty perplexing that other regional cities that are smaller and aren't getting near the national hype Denver is for growth and popularity (Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Kansas City) have been able to develop SOME intracity transit, along with admittedly higher quality infill, while we've been seemingly dropping the ball. Would have loved to see the Civic Center redevelopment augment or include some sort of LRT/streetcar spur up and down Broadway similar to this.
Didn't they tear down an actual transit center for this project, albeit a failed one? I'd venture that if Denver did throw $122M on a streetcar with <2,000 daily ridership and sold a premiere piece of downtown real estate to a developer for $500K we'd could also join the ranks of Midwest cities with their vanity transit projects. Granted we did do that with the R Line, and to a lesser extent the W Line, but the Denver Metro Area is still a better example of actually seeking for value for our transit dollars.

The Courtre is still a very cool project.
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Another new international route for DIA to be announced tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/cprwarner/status/854398229860974592
https://twitter.com/MayorHancock/status/854443034007687168

Given the timing one week after Norwegian's add and the fact that neither Ryan Warner nor the mayor's tweets mention a new airline, it must be an existing one. My betting money is on United retaliating by restarting DEN-LHR, though I guess we'll see tomorrow!
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2017, 4:37 PM
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Didn't they tear down an actual transit center for this project, albeit a failed one? I'd venture that if Denver did throw $122M on a streetcar with <2,000 daily ridership and sold a premiere piece of downtown real estate to a developer for $500K we'd could also join the ranks of Midwest cities with their vanity transit projects. Granted we did do that with the R Line, and to a lesser extent the W Line, but the Denver Metro Area is still a better example of actually seeking for value for our transit dollars.

The Courtre is still a very cool project.
What they called a "transit center" was essentially an ancient garage for buses to park/turn around in. While I will admit that this is probably not the answer for Milwaukee with regard to effective/efficient spending on transit, I do believe that some sort of incorporation of this concept into Civic Center, with a path either up and down Broadway/Brighton or Colfax/16th St. Mall, would have generated a significant number of riders to justify the investment, as well as locating a large number of potential customers right on top of the station.
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The Southwest Chief (for front range rail service) passenger rail bill passed the House and its now off to the govenor:

Exploration of Front Range rail service gets nod amid uncertainty for Amtrak routes
The Southwest Chief and California Zephyr, however, are in Trump’s budget-cut crosshairs
By JESSE PAUL | [email protected] | The Denver Post
PUBLISHED: April 19, 2017 at 9:29 am | UPDATED: April 19, 2017 at 9:3


Colorado’s legislature on Tuesday approved a bill authorizing a commission to explore passenger rail service along the Front Range and the expansion of Amtrak’s Southwest Chief route through the state’s southeastern corner.

But as the bill heads to Gov. John Hickenlooper’s desk, the Southwest Chief line and the state’s other cross-country Amtrak route — the Chicago to San Francisco California Zephyr — remain in the cross hairs of President Donald Trump’s budget-cut dreams.

Supporters of passenger rail in Colorado, however, say the state approval is a clear sign that the routes should stay and more lines be added.

“I’m cautiously optimistic that Amtrak’s going to be OK,” said Jim Souby, president of the of Colorado Rail Passenger Association. “Nobody knows quite how Congress is going to handle the budget this year. But I think it’s a big policy declaration by the state that we need to take passenger rail seriously. It passed the (Colorado legislature) with bipartisan support.”

The legislation stems from the Southwest Chief Commission, which was created several years ago at the height of worries that millions of dollars in critical track repairs would shut down the historic route. The bill will elongate the Southwest Chief Commission’s authority beyond its July 1 expiration date and allow it to work on developing passenger rail from Fort Collins to Trinidad.

One of the new RTD FasTracks trains that will travel from Denver's Union Station to the Denver International Airport. This University of Colorado A Line opened to the public on April 22.Denver Post fileOne of the new RTD FasTracks trains that will travel from Denver’s Union Station to the Denver International Airport. This University of Colorado A Line opened to the public on April 22, 2016.
“Imagine getting on a train in Pueblo on the way to a Rockies’ or Broncos’ game in Denver and just smoothly zooming by all of the cars stuck on the congested interstates,” Pueblo County Commissioner Sal Pace said in a written statement. “This bill’s passage puts us one-step closer to that dream.”

Pace was instrumental in the legislation and has been one of the main advocates in Colorado from widespread rail service. The bill passed on Tuesday — Senate Bill 153 — was sponsored by State Sen. Larry Crowder, R-Alamosa, Sen. Leroy Garcia, D-Pueblo, and Rep. Daneya Esgar, D-Pueblo.

Under the legislation, the reconstituted Southwest Chief and Front Range Passenger Rail Commission would be made up of stakeholders from along the Front Range. It would be charged with presenting the legislature with a plan for border-to-border service by the end of 2017.

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Supporters say Front Range rail service would provide a solution to reduce highway congestion and also spur economic development, especially in southern Colorado where the Recession rebounds felt in Denver haven’t been equal.


But Amtrak’s long-distance train routes, including the California Zephyr (which stops at Denver Union Station) and the Southwest Chief, are in a perilous state as the Trump administration seeks to cut Amtrak’s long-distance rail service. Colorado’s U.S. Sens. Cory Gardner, a Republican, and Michael Bennet, a Democrat, have been working to prevent the routes’ elimination, Souby said.

“We’re not sure where Trump stands on passenger rail, but we feel we are really strong in the U.S. Senate,” said Souby, who also sits on a national passenger rail service association.

Souby added: “From my perspective, the freight right of way, which is generally speaking 100 feet wide, runs all the way from Fort Collins to Pueblo (is key). That right of way is very attractive and could support three tracks. The indications are we need to be incremental and start — like other states have — with just a few trains at peak so we don’t create a huge monstrous funding issue.”

Freight carriers in the state have told advocates of passenger rail that the approval of Colorado’s legislature was a must before anything could move forward.

The bill’s passage also comes after the successful resuscitation this year of the Winter Park Express, which saw thousands of riders and whose popularity exceeded Amtrak’s expectations.

LA JUNTA, CO. - NOVEMBER 05: Engineer Lonnie Estep hands his bag up to student engineer Andrew Ornelas during a crew change on the Southwest Chief at La Junta, CO November 05, 2015 La Junta, CO (Photo by Joe Amon/The Denver Post)Joe Amon, The Denver PostLA JUNTA, CO. – NOVEMBER 05: Engineer Lonnie Estep hands his bag up to student engineer Andrew Ornelas during a crew change on the Southwest Chief at La Junta, CO November 05, 2015 La Junta, CO (Photo by Joe Amon/The Denver Post)
The Southwest Chief’s cause and passenger rail in general has, at times, been a tough sell to state lawmakers. In 2015 the Republican-led state Senate initially blocked $1.5 million for the line with now Senate President Kevin Grantham, R-Cañon City, suggesting it would take more and more spending to keep it operating.

The Southwest Chief route was in a precarious place until late in 2015, when funds were secured to repair the Burlington Northern Santa Fe track the Amtrak train travels. Officials were plotting to reroute the beloved Chicago-to-Los Angeles train through Oklahoma and Texas and away from small towns in Colorado, New Mexico and Kansas.

The Colorado communities at risk of losing their stops — including Lamar, La Junta and Trinidad — banded together with their counterparts in Kansas and New Mexico to raise the money to save the route.


The Southwest Chief Commission has since been working to add a stop for the line in Pueblo. Amtrak has said it is open to the idea, but cost remains the question.

Pueblo’s community leaders — led by Pace — have been pushing hard for a link to the historic line. The southern Colorado city has dreams of train travel bringing a renaissance similar to the revival of Denver’s Union Station to its downtown rail hub and a potential economic impact in the millions.
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^ Hopfully CDOT could learn something from California's CALTRANs on running regional/commuter service-CalTrans California Amtrak service is very sucessful around here.
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Amtrak something something blah blah blah...
This jumble of text is too difficult to read. It looks like this is a Denver Post article, so I'll just pull up DP's website and find the article easy enough I'm sure, but you should probably post a link to the article, and maybe not post every last bit of text from the entire page including ads and links to other articles and whatnot, LOL. I think skyscaperpage may even have a policy against that (or maybe I'm mixing this place up with some other website I frequent).
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This jumble of text is too difficult to read. It looks like this is a Denver Post article, so I'll just pull up DP's website and find the article easy enough I'm sure, but you should probably post a link to the article, and maybe not post every last bit of text from the entire page including ads and links to other articles and whatnot, LOL. I think skyscaperpage may even have a policy against that (or maybe I'm mixing this place up with some other website I frequent).

Here:

Exploration of Front Range rail service gets nod amid uncertainty for Amtrak routes

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Colorado’s legislature on Tuesday approved a bill authorizing a commission to explore passenger rail service along the Front Range and the expansion of Amtrak’s Southwest Chief route through the state’s southeastern corner.

. . .

The legislation stems from the Southwest Chief Commission, which was created several years ago at the height of worries that millions of dollars in critical track repairs would shut down the historic route. The bill will elongate the Southwest Chief Commission’s authority beyond its July 1 expiration date and allow it to work on developing passenger rail from Fort Collins to Trinidad.

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[Pueblo County Commissioner Sal Pace]was instrumental in the legislation and has been one of the main advocates in Colorado from widespread rail service. The bill passed on Tuesday — Senate Bill 153 — was sponsored by State Sen. Larry Crowder, R-Alamosa, Sen. Leroy Garcia, D-Pueblo, and Rep. Daneya Esgar, D-Pueblo.

Under the legislation, the reconstituted Southwest Chief and Front Range Passenger Rail Commission would be made up of stakeholders from along the Front Range. It would be charged with presenting the legislature with a plan for border-to-border service by the end of 2017.

. . .

But Amtrak’s long-distance train routes, including the California Zephyr (which stops at Denver Union Station) and the Southwest Chief, are in a perilous state as the Trump administration seeks to cut Amtrak’s long-distance rail service. Colorado’s U.S. Sens. Cory Gardner, a Republican, and Michael Bennet, a Democrat, have been working to prevent the routes’ elimination, Souby said.

. . .

Souby added: “From my perspective, the freight right of way, which is generally speaking 100 feet wide, runs all the way from Fort Collins to Pueblo (is key). That right of way is very attractive and could support three tracks. The indications are we need to be incremental and start — like other states have — with just a few trains at peak so we don’t create a huge monstrous funding issue.”

Freight carriers in the state have told advocates of passenger rail that the approval of Colorado’s legislature was a must before anything could move forward.
EDIT: Despite me teasing Wizand for his lengthy critiques of DUS, his central point of DUS should have been a through station does carry some weight in light of discussions such as these.
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How has your airport in Kansas been doing?
Here is the short answer:

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Denver International Airport set another record for February passenger traffic, seeing 4.2 million passengers, and up 3.3 percent from a year earlier

It's the 18th-straight month that traffic has increased at DIA and airport officials attributed part of the increase to more international travelers.
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DIA's gross revenues edged up 4.4 percent last year from the year before, to a record $976.4 million, airport officials said Monday. And operating revenue for 2016 is estimated at $777.1 million, according to preliminary and unaudited figures.
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How has your airport in Kansas been doing?
For 2016: 18th Busiest in the world. 6th in US.

Airports abroad are growing faster. For example, DEN was the 10th busiest airport in the world just 6 years ago.

But, still significant growth last year. So, it's all good.

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Colorado lawmakers’ grand bargain on transportation appears doomed


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The Colorado legislative session’s top priority, a major transportation bill that seeks a tax hike to improve and expand highways, is unlikely to win approval this term.

Senate President Kevin Grantham, a Cañon City Republican and one of the prime sponsors, announced Thursday morning that he does not have the votes to move it through the GOP-led chamber.

. . .

The bill sponsors continue to work to secure support, but Grantham did not express optimism that the vote total would shift. House Bill 1242 won approval in the Democratic-led House earlier this year but faced tougher obstacles in the Senate because it would ask voters for a 0.5 percent sales tax hike to generate money for a $3.5 billion bond package for roads.

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In other blow, a bipartisan bill to send more money to struggling rural Colorado and eliminate the cuts to hospitals also appears to be on life support. Senate bill sponsor Jerry Sonnenberg, a Sterling Republican, blamed Democrats for refusing to compromise on a plan to lower the limit on state spending in future years, in exchange for reclassifying the hospital provider fee.
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