Millennium Line - Broadway Extension: Planning & Pre-Construction

[MetroYVR]

this can't happen soon enough

[scryer]

The Broadway-City Hall re-design is simple enough... Like the functions are there and it makes sense so I'm not mad at it or anything like that. I think that it is short-sighted (again, a common theme with this extension) to only have the one entrance. I think that it is worth the investment to have a Northern entrance with a tunnel that connects to the Canada/Millennium line platforms.

My hopes:

- A pedestrian scramble at Broadway/Cambie in lieu of only having one entrance.
- The extension funding all the way to UBC with continuous construction. I think it would be more expensive to stop and start up construction than it would be just to continue it.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by scryer

My hopes:

- A pedestrian scramble at Broadway/Cambie in lieu of only having one entrance.

Broadway Cambie is too high traffic to make it into a scramble.

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

can anyone tell me why they aren't activating the entrance at Crossroads? wouldn't this be the perfect time to do it? there will be a hole in the ground around there.

also, there will never be a scramble there. as noted above it is way way too busy.

[Tetsuo]

Originally Posted by Sheba

It's Spirit Halloween (they're the big halloween store). My friend went there and asked why they weren't anywhere near Metrotown and was told it was because they couldn't find a space. They only got this location due to it getting demolished soon.

Surprisingly they had a location last year in a former moto repair shop on Arbutus and 10th.

There;s also one in Queensborough Landing

[Aroundtheworld]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

can anyone tell me why they aren't activating the entrance at Crossroads? wouldn't this be the perfect time to do it? there will be a hole in the ground around there.

also, there will never be a scramble there. as noted above it is way way too busy.

It might change after the Millennium Line extension is completed. The City of Vancouver has plans to reduce Broadway to 4 lanes as there will be less vehicular traffic demand after the extension is built.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

also, there will never be a scramble there. as noted above it is way way too busy.

I dunno - given the way that nonstop pedestrian flow currently impedes right or left turns, a scramble would probably improve traffic. Works just fine for Shibuya, right?

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by Aroundtheworld

It might change after the Millennium Line extension is completed. The City of Vancouver has plans to reduce Broadway to 4 lanes as there will be less vehicular traffic demand after the extension is built.

source for that? i have not heard that one before.

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I dunno - given the way that nonstop pedestrian flow currently impedes right or left turns, a scramble would probably improve traffic. Works just fine for Shibuya, right?

i doubt the CoV would prevent people from walking when traffic is moving. they would most likely do what there is now, + a scramble. which would make things much, much worse.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

source for that? i have not heard that one before.



i doubt the CoV would prevent people from walking when traffic is moving. they would most likely do what there is now, + a scramble. which would make things much, much worse.

Vancouver Complete Streets

"Reallocation of street space to other uses like wider
sidewalks, public spaces, street trees, or space for cycling"

In the Broadway Plan

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

i doubt the CoV would prevent people from walking when traffic is moving. they would most likely do what there is now, + a scramble. which would make things much, much worse.

Vehicles go, then the other side's vehicles go, then pedestrians go; nobody crosses out of turn. I don't see why City Hall would do things any differently from Richmond, Edmonton, Toronto or the rest of the planet.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

"Reallocation of street space to other uses like wider sidewalks, public spaces, street trees, or space for cycling"

I agree with all the other repurposing, but come on, there's already a bike "highway" getting built on 10th.

[scottN]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I agree with all the other repurposing, but come on, there's already a bike "highway" getting built on 10th.

No it's not a highway. Highways don't have crosswalks or blind driveways every 50m. It's more akin to an overloaded collector road for bikes. It probably wouldn't be so popular if the rest of the bike routes in this part of Vancouver were actually appealing places to ride a bike.

[ilikeredheads]

the city sure has this effed up agenda to turn the everywhere into bike lanes.

Stop putting bike lanes on main arteries! Heavy traffic and bikes don't mix!!

[Lexus]

Originally Posted by ilikeredheads

the city sure has this effed up agenda to turn the everywhere into bike lanes.

Stop putting bike lanes on main arteries! Heavy traffic and bikes don't mix!!

10th Ave is not a heavy car traffic street. I use a whole stretch of it up to 4 time a week to commute and it’s getting getter year over year.

[scryer]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

I dunno - given the way that nonstop pedestrian flow currently impedes right or left turns, a scramble would probably improve traffic. Works just fine for Shibuya, right?

Exactly. Build a city for people, not vehicles. It also works for Yonge and Bloor (think: traffic gridlock, only 24/7) if we are really looking for a more local example so I really don't understand the toxic push-back on the idea. And with the other Broadway upgrades, Broadway will become more pedestrian friendly to facilitate that ped traffic anyhow.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

So the M-Line will hit Cambie at a significant depth. Will it rise as it goes towards the VGH station or will that be another deep one?

Ideally the line should dip down to a lower elevation between stations and the stations themselves should be on rises. That gives a gravity assist for accelerating out of one station and decelerating into the next, saving energy costs. Unfortunately, Vancouver's hilly terrain makes this very difficult to do.

[jollyburger]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

Ideally the line should dip down to a lower elevation between stations and the stations themselves should be on rises. That gives a gravity assist for accelerating out of one station and decelerating into the next, saving energy costs. Unfortunately, Vancouver's hilly terrain makes this very difficult to do.

How much would it have to dip to have an effect?

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

How much would it have to dip to have an effect?

hopefully, not like a roller-coaster

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by jsbertram

hopefully, not like a roller-coaster

One of the Canada Line stations has slopes like that where the station itself is higher than the track on either side. I can't remember which one, maybe King Ed.

[ilikeredheads]

Originally Posted by Lexus

10th Ave is not a heavy car traffic street. I use a whole stretch of it up to 4 time a week to commute and it’s getting getter year over year.

i meant on broadway.