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Originally Posted by bradnixon
I agree to a point, but you're forgetting about the extension to the south. There will be a shift in riders who currently use the 97, 99 or 294 to Hurdman. Once Line 2 opens they will take it to Bayview instead. This is in addition to new riders attracted to transit by a train to their community. Bayview will be a busy spot.
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I am not "forgetting about the extension to the south." As I said, up until now, the trains have been full with most of the passengers being students going to/from Carleton. Assuming the number of students using the line continues to grow, over half of the capacity of the train will be students, only leaving room for less than half of the train's capacity for those going further north.
Regarding routes 97, 99 or 294, how many passengers are they transporting
south of South Keys combined? Is it over 1000 pphpd during peak periods (i.e. a crushed bus every 6 minutes) to generate over 200 passengers per train? I expect that OC Transpo will still be running Rapid and Connexion buses to Hurdman from areas north of the Airport.
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Originally Posted by OTownandDown
I agree with you, for now, but what about when the line is fully extended to BarfHaven?
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As we told you before, there are no plans to extend the Trillium Line to Barrhaven. The Confederation Line will be extended to it first. Sure it might eventually happen, but most Barrhaven residents .
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Originally Posted by OTownandDown
In the morning, especially, if the trains are full of commuters coming from both the north (Gatin-oh-no)
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Similarly there are no plans to extend the Trillium Line to Gatineau either. The plan is for the STO to use the Portage Bridge. If the PoW bridge is ever used for trains, it would be for transporting people to/from
western Ottawa, not downtown.
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Originally Posted by Truenorth00
I fail to see the downside here if somebody is willing to pony up for the trains. That would mean fantastic frequency on Line 1. What's bad about that?
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Do you think STO will agree to pay to both purchase the trains and operate them (including maintenance) in perpetuity and continue to buy more as demand increases? If the did it would likely only be for operation from Bayview to uOttawa.
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Originally Posted by Truenorth00
All that said I think a Line 2 PoW connection is a separate issue from getting STO riders to the downtown core. Too far West for them. That connection should happen though to make it easier for Ottawa riders not going to downtown Hull and Gatineau riders bound for southern and western Ottawa.
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I tend to agree. Even then, since they have decided to use the Portage Bridge, the value of the PoW bridge is greatly diminished compared to if they had decided to use the Alexandra Bridge.