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looks like a car dealership to me.
LOL, it doesn't help that all the cars are the same. It's a terrible rendering and I suspect the end result will look a lot better. It's actually an addition to the existing shopping center, hence the setback--the blue awning in the rendering is the present-day Jimmy John's.
     
     
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Geez. So many apartments. Anyone remember the figure that the ABC quoted on how many units are going to be coming online that are under construction right now?
     
     
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Geez. So many apartments. Anyone remember the figure that the ABC quoted on how many units are going to be coming online that are under construction right now?
8300 units are currently under construction while another 8400 are proposed in the development pipeline.

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/real_talk/2014/04/apartment-boom-too-much-of-a-good-thing.html
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2014, 5:08 AM
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I can't help but wonder how all these stick built places will stand the test of time. They look a little flimsy to me but maybe they are stouter than I think.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2014, 6:46 AM
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Almost all brownstones were stick built as well as any structure before 1990.
     
     
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I'm not sure what issue people have with stick built buildings. Housing has been made of wood for centuries and many of these older structures are perfectly fine. Obviously the quality of care that is put into them matters, as with anything. The new buildings are much more energy efficient than their older counterparts and wood framing provides affordability.

The drawback is the developer is limited on how high they can go with wood framing and they're limited on design. Concrete and steel framed buildings offer much more design flexibility, but obviously they're much more costly (from what I read, you're looking at roughly 20% higher costs).
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2014, 1:13 PM
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Well, I take it back. They may well last a long time.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2014, 4:31 PM
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I'm not sure what issue people have with stick built buildings. Housing has been made of wood for centuries and many of these older structures are perfectly fine. Obviously the quality of care that is put into them matters, as with anything. The new buildings are much more energy efficient than their older counterparts and wood framing provides affordability.

The drawback is the developer is limited on how high they can go with wood framing and they're limited on design. Concrete and steel framed buildings offer much more design flexibility, but obviously they're much more costly (from what I read, you're looking at roughly 20% higher costs).
i disagree. stick built doesn't present any problems if it's a single family living there, but when you've got a large number of people who are at any given time cooking, having loud sex, trying to quell a crying baby, doing yoga and aerobics, and perhaps most importantly, trying to sleep, you've got a huge problem. have you ever stayed in a cheap hotel where you could hear what everyone in adjacent rooms, below and above, were doing? that's the problem you're introducing here.

sure, the apartments will sell for a pretty penny for a short time, but once the luster has faded, they will have a hard time getting people to live in these places. they'll be notorious for noise problems, even if we put aside all the structural problems stick built buildings can encounter over an extended period of time.

i also dispute the fact that long lasting buildings were built primarily from wood or particleboard until the last century. buildings nearly always had a core of brick, cobblestone, or in coastal areas sometimes material like tabby was used— it wasn't a decorative façade like it is now; that's what the houses were supported on. now we've come up with tons of new techniques where we can use braces and whatnot to construct a house entirely out of wood, but that wasn't the way it was done for permanent or load-bearing structures before the last century. wood was the cheapest and most commonly used material, sure, but it wasn't what the house was supported on, excluding structures like log houses which were unique in the fact that they were constructed entirely out of wood— mainly due to the fact that entire logs were used rather than boards.
     
     
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By the way, looking at these photos -- which are excellent -- reminds me of one of my pet peeves.

Why do we build sidewalks that have utility poles, street signs, guy wires, fireplugs and other assorted vertical items sticking up through them? Are these even ADA compliant?

I'm also not too crazy about those molded one-piece sidewalks that are basically just a curved lip off the street.

In my opinion sidewalks should be set back from the street by a vegetated strip at least 12" wide (preferably 18"), and should be properly curbed and unobstructed.

It's great to see all these new developments but it seems like we could do a lot better with our construction details.
     
     
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Concrete-based structures with metal framing in the walls aren't much better. I lived at Spire for 5 years and was constantly annoyed by the noises coming from my neighbor's unit. I regularly heard noise from above and below.
     
     
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i disagree. stick built doesn't present any problems if it's a single family living there, but when you've got a large number of people who are at any given time cooking, having loud sex, trying to quell a crying baby, doing yoga and aerobics, and perhaps most importantly, trying to sleep, you've got a huge problem. have you ever stayed in a cheap hotel where you could hear what everyone in adjacent rooms, below and above, were doing? that's the problem you're introducing here.

sure, the apartments will sell for a pretty penny for a short time, but once the luster has faded, they will have a hard time getting people to live in these places. they'll be notorious for noise problems, even if we put aside all the structural problems stick built buildings can encounter over an extended period of time.

i also dispute the fact that long lasting buildings were built primarily from wood or particleboard until the last century. buildings nearly always had a core of brick, cobblestone, or in coastal areas sometimes material like tabby was used— it wasn't a decorative façade like it is now; that's what the houses were supported on. now we've come up with tons of new techniques where we can use braces and whatnot to construct a house entirely out of wood, but that wasn't the way it was done for permanent or load-bearing structures before the last century. wood was the cheapest and most commonly used material, sure, but it wasn't what the house was supported on, excluding structures like log houses which were unique in the fact that they were constructed entirely out of wood— mainly due to the fact that entire logs were used rather than boards.

This isn't true. When I first moved to Atlanta, I lived at Post Stratford(which is a stick built property), and the demand for those apartments, are not only high, but the prices are high as well.
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Old Posted Apr 23, 2014, 6:40 PM
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This isn't true. When I first moved to Atlanta, I lived at Post Stratford(which is a stick built property), and the demand for those apartments, are not only high, but the prices are high as well.
you're telling me you couldn't hear your neighbours? are you sure it's stick-built?
     
     
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Concrete-based structures with metal framing in the walls aren't much better. I lived at Spire for 5 years and was constantly annoyed by the noises coming from my neighbor's unit. I regularly heard noise from above and below.
I agree, I will say though here at Plaza Midtown, I haven't had a noise issue with the neighbors, only sometimes with people being loud in the hallways, but I know of others that have had the same issues as you. I will say the one advantage is that you can jump up and down, and run around your condos and not bother the people under you.
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i disagree. stick built doesn't present any problems if it's a single family living there, but when you've got a large number of people who are at any given time cooking, having loud sex, trying to quell a crying baby, doing yoga and aerobics, and perhaps most importantly, trying to sleep, you've got a huge problem. have you ever stayed in a cheap hotel where you could hear what everyone in adjacent rooms, below and above, were doing? that's the problem you're introducing here.

sure, the apartments will sell for a pretty penny for a short time, but once the luster has faded, they will have a hard time getting people to live in these places. they'll be notorious for noise problems, even if we put aside all the structural problems stick built buildings can encounter over an extended period of time.

i also dispute the fact that long lasting buildings were built primarily from wood or particleboard until the last century. buildings nearly always had a core of brick, cobblestone, or in coastal areas sometimes material like tabby was used— it wasn't a decorative façade like it is now; that's what the houses were supported on. now we've come up with tons of new techniques where we can use braces and whatnot to construct a house entirely out of wood, but that wasn't the way it was done for permanent or load-bearing structures before the last century. wood was the cheapest and most commonly used material, sure, but it wasn't what the house was supported on, excluding structures like log houses which were unique in the fact that they were constructed entirely out of wood— mainly due to the fact that entire logs were used rather than boards.
I think they make sound proofing materials for the noise issues...I don't know if they are used in many apartment buildings, but it would make for better living.
     
     
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you're telling me you couldn't hear your neighbours? are you sure it's stick-built?
Sorry for the confusion, I was simply saying that the demand for that complex is still high, and I don't personally believe that it's a cheaply built apartment. But yes, I could hear neighbors ALL THE TIME.
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Sorry for the confusion, I was simply saying that the demand for that complex is still high, and I don't personally believe that it's a cheaply built apartment. But yes, I could hear neighbors ALL THE TIME.
haha... i thought so. that was my point. when there is plenty of available housing developments around the area that don't have noise problems, the stick built developments' rent will plummet. with post stratford they've kind of got a monopoly on the area, at least until the new skyhouse opens.
     
     
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By the way, looking at these photos -- which are excellent -- reminds me of one of my pet peeves.

Why do we build sidewalks that have utility poles, street signs, guy wires, fireplugs and other assorted vertical items sticking up through them? Are these even ADA compliant?

I'm also not too crazy about those molded one-piece sidewalks that are basically just a curved lip off the street.

In my opinion sidewalks should be set back from the street by a vegetated strip at least 12" wide (preferably 18"), and should be properly curbed and unobstructed.

It's great to see all these new developments but it seems like we could do a lot better with our construction details.
Grass or really any plantings won't survive in a 12", 18", or even 24" strip which is why sidewalks come all the way to the street. The reason is for a number or reason, but mainly comes down to irrigation (GDOT won't allow Irrigation in ROW), and the heat island effect from all the pavement surrounding the grass basically cooks the grass to death.

The grass strip used to be a requirement in some jurisdictions (and still is) however people have realized that plantings can't survive and you end up with bare dirt.
     
     
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Grass or really any plantings won't survive in a 12", 18", or even 24" strip which is why sidewalks come all the way to the street. The reason is for a number or reason, but mainly comes down to irrigation (GDOT won't allow Irrigation in ROW), and the heat island effect from all the pavement surrounding the grass basically cooks the grass to death.

The grass strip used to be a requirement in some jurisdictions (and still is) however people have realized that plantings can't survive and you end up with bare dirt.
2' is enough to get a small tree in which goes a long way for safety and eventually shade.
     
     
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