Federal Government & Politics II

[theman23]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

What Canadians care about is the leadership of JT in the last 9 years, not a 2015 nostalgic snapshot of JT, bubble-wrapped in his nice hair campaign and untainted by governance.

JT's charisma is overstated though. Amongst the pantheon of PMs, JT won't be remembered for having exceptional communication skills during his tenure. It also doesn't offset the many poor qualities that make him a divisive and under-performing leader.

JTs charisma comes from his good looks and ability to appear natural in just about any situation. His charisma is about two canned quips deep. He is a terrible communicator if you ever take the time to listen to what he’s saying.

[shreddog]

If his name was "Justin Taschereau", would we even be talking about his last 9 years as PM of Canada?

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by Wigs

Blaikie served as an MP for 8 years, 5 months.

Poilievre was voted in at 25 years old. He's now been an MP for 20 years or almost 45% of his life. He's an example of what's wrong with politics. Career politicians.

Truly never had a real job. The poster boy for it. Trudeau at least lived a life and had some semblance of real jobs before politics.

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

If we get to pick, I'll go for an LL.B/MBA who built a successful manufacturing firm following a stint in the military. She took a year's sabbatical to work with refugees and serves on the boards of several cultural and charitable NGOs.

Erin O'Toole came close to checking a lot of those boxes. LLB, Military background, former in-house counsel for P&G Canada.

It's too bad urban Canadians decided to vote for the empty void that is 2021 JT.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Truly never had a real job. The poster boy for it. Trudeau at least lived a life and had some semblance of real jobs before politics.

He was a teacher though not for very long. Did NGO work and was a student for a long time. Overall his pre-political life isn't very substantial.

Pierre has essentially no non-political work experience. I don't know if the have had a PM with less?

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by theman23

JTs charisma comes from his good looks and ability to appear natural in just about any situation. His charisma is about two canned quips deep. He is a terrible communicator if you ever take the time to listen to what he’s saying.

Yes, when you get past the good boy looks and actually listen to the substance he's trying to convey, it's robotic, often times incoherent, cringeworthy, lots of filler.

He's a reflection of the times, where his superstar appearance matters the most on 30 second tiktoks and social media feeds, like his PR cringefest with Diljit Dosanjh.

Speaking of which:
India Canada New Faceoff As Justin Trudeau Calls Diljit Dosanjh 'Guy From Punjab
https://youtu.be/xIFIxacaGLk?si=1SHDsmu_u3mtnTZ-

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Truly never had a real job. The poster boy for it. Trudeau at least lived a life and had some semblance of real jobs before politics.

Queen Elizabeth II never had a “real job” and yet was more qualified than buffoons like Boris Johnson.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Queen Elizabeth II never had a “real job” ....

https://www.businessinsider.com/phot...-war-ii-2020-4

Does heavy vehicle mechanic during WWII in garrison in London count as a "real job"?

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

Erin O'Toole came close to checking a lot of those boxes. LLB, Military background, former in-house counsel for P&G Canada.

It's too bad urban Canadians decided to vote for the empty void that is 2021 JT.

O'Toole even bought into the carbon tax in the end. Would have been a pretty good PM IMO.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

He was a teacher though not for very long. Did NGO work and was a student for a long time. Overall his pre-political life isn't very substantial.

Pierre has essentially no non-political work experience. I don't know if the have had a PM with less?

Yep Trudeau was light but it was there. Moreover he had life experience outside of politics. He was never a "regular joe", but at least had interactions with regular people and their lives, and some life experience growing up in his 20s+ seeing the world. That stuff helps round you out as a human being.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Queen Elizabeth II never had a “real job” and yet was more qualified than buffoons like Boris Johnson.

So you're comparing PP to QE2?

[P'tit Renard]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Yep Trudeau was light but it was there. Moreover he had life experience outside of politics. He was never a "regular joe", but at least had interactions with regular people and their lives, and some life experience growing up in his 20s+ seeing the world. That stuff helps round you out as a human being.

I wouldn't call West Grey Point Academy regular joes. It's an expensive private school for wealthy families.

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

I wouldn't call West Grey Point Academy regular joes. It's an expensive private school for wealthy families.

He was also a substitute teacher in the public school system, substituting at schools like Sir Winston Churchill Secondary and Killarney Secondary. This story has a bunch of quotes from students of his, and you can see that he taught all over the place.

[Dartguard]

Originally Posted by theman23

JTs charisma comes from his good looks and ability to appear natural in just about any situation. His charisma is about two canned quips deep. He is a terrible communicator if you ever take the time to listen to what he’s saying.

The P.M.'s superpower is that he does not need to say anything. He just needs to show up fully dressed and the Ladies imagination does the rest. Jordan Peterson calls it the beauty and the beast syndrome. A large mainly Female and Gay cohort in Canada if not the World think they could tame Mr Trudeau. The famous Flags with his name on them don't mean what the flag owners think it does for that same cohort.

Sophie thought it was no longer viable to tame the P.M..Which is too bad for their Kids as Teenagers don't need a parental breakup on top of the P.M.'s status and Public persona.

[kiwi4353]

Does anyone have a chart of the number of immigrants entering the country by year?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

https://www.businessinsider.com/phot...-war-ii-2020-4

Does heavy vehicle mechanic during WWII in garrison in London count as a "real job"?

Oooh. My nominee for BURN of the Day!

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Oooh. My nominee for BURN of the Day!

Agreed.

And, it there EVER was a constitutional monarch who took her job seriously and fulfilled her vows completely and absolutely, it most definitely was HRH QE2

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by P'tit Renard

Yes, when you get past the good boy looks and actually listen to the substance he's trying to convey, it's robotic, often times incoherent, cringeworthy, lots of filler.

He's a reflection of the times, where his superstar appearance matters the most on 30 second tiktoks and social media feeds, like his PR cringefest with Diljit Dosanjh.

It's kind of funny, everything up to the last part of the last sentence could be said about Poilievre too, with his penchant for VERB THE NOUN slogans, wearing shirts that are just slightly too tight to show he works out, and his recent switch to contacts from nerdy glasses.

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Agreed.

And, it there EVER was a constitutional monarch who took her job seriously and fulfilled her vows completely and absolutely, it most definitely was HRH QE2

Only female royal to ever serve and universally respected and recognized by veterans as a veteran herself.

[Gresto]

Originally Posted by theman23

JTs charisma comes from his good looks and ability to appear natural in just about any situation. His charisma is about two canned quips deep. He is a terrible communicator if you ever take the time to listen to what he’s saying.

He doesn't have a tenth the charisma and verisimilitude his father had. If he weren't named Trudeau, no one would have ever been the wiser as to who he is. He is twee and oleaginous, and speaks exclusively in platitudes. Still, still, if the choice must be between him and Polyester, because so many voting Canadians are myopic, none-too-bright, and easily led, he is (gulp) the better choice for the betterment of the country. Of those two parties and leaders, one is substantively a builder, the other substantively a dismantler.