General Phoenix Metro Discussion Thread

[muertecaza]

Phoenix falls short, only reaching #3 on the list of America's sweatiest cities.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/loc...enix-third-sweatiest-city-u-s/993672002/

[azliam]

Originally Posted by muertecaza

Phoenix falls short, only reaching #3 on the list of America's sweatiest cities.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/loc...enix-third-sweatiest-city-u-s/993672002/

That list is BS. Houston not even on the list??

[biggus diggus]

Tried lunch today at The Larry in one of the tech buildings in the Warehouse District. Great food, really reasonable prices (especially through tomorrow it's their grand opening half off week), and a very cool building. I felt surprisingly old and un-cool.

[exit2lef]

Originally Posted by biggus diggus

Tried lunch today at The Larry in one of the tech buildings in the Warehouse District. Great food, really reasonable prices (especially through tomorrow it's their grand opening half off week), and a very cool building. I felt surprisingly old and un-cool.

I went there yesterday and enjoyed my half-price lunch. What's weird, though, is all the strongly worded "no trespassing" signs on the parking lot entrances. I don't know if it's due to a problem with loitering, car theft, or unauthorized parking, but it wasn't the most welcoming message. Once I was inside, everything was fine.

[vwwolfe]

They paved a parking lot on the triangle of land at Central & Camelback next to one of the paths they are putting in. I’ll try to get pictures on Tuesday.

[biggus diggus]

Originally Posted by exit2lef

I went there yesterday and enjoyed my half-price lunch. What's weird, though, is all the strongly worded "no trespassing" signs on the parking lot entrances. I don't know if it's due to a problem with loitering, car theft, or unauthorized parking, but it wasn't the most welcoming message. Once I was inside, everything was fine.

I agree it was a little much. I ended up parking down the street.

[CrestedSaguaro]

Originally Posted by vwwolfe

They paved a parking lot on the triangle of land at Central & Camelback next to one of the paths they are putting in. I’ll try to get pictures on Tuesday.

I'm not sure what they are trying to do with that space. I noticed they built new curbs with entry ways into probably the paved lot you are talking about. Are they making a new bus transition area?

[vwwolfe]

Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

I'm not sure what they are trying to do with that space. I noticed they built new curbs with entry ways into probably the paved lot you are talking about. Are they making a new bus transition area?

It looks like all Handicapped Parking. Maybe they were trying to get parking spots closer to the train platform.

[exit2lef]

Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Are they making a new bus transition area?

I doubt it since Valley Metro long ago abandoned the bus bays adjacent to the station in favor of having the 0 and 50 routes stop at typical curbside locations.

[combusean]

Here's the article for the SWC of Central/Camelback: they're just cleaning up the lot that has been a problem for neighbors.

http://northcentralnews.net/2018/community/barren-corner-gets-needed-makeover/

[CrestedSaguaro]

Originally Posted by combusean

Here's the article for the SWC of Central/Camelback: they're just cleaning up the lot that has been a problem for neighbors.

http://northcentralnews.net/2018/community/barren-corner-gets-needed-makeover/

Quote from the article: "As for Cornerstone on Camelback, “Mixed use is still the plan,” Butler said. “That kind of development requires the economy to be very strong.”."

Umm. How much stronger does the economy need to be for them to build?

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Quote from the article: "As for Cornerstone on Camelback, “Mixed use is still the plan,” Butler said. “That kind of development requires the economy to be very strong.”."

Umm. How much stronger does the economy need to be for them to build?

Yeah what? Best employment in decades, record high stocks, plenty of liquidity for loans, rising rents, growing populationa and wages etc etc.

Sounds like a BS excuse.

[DMancini]

Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Quote from the article: "As for Cornerstone on Camelback, “Mixed use is still the plan,” Butler said. “That kind of development requires the economy to be very strong.”."

Umm. How much stronger does the economy need to be for them to build?

I mean, there's a West Elm on the intersection. They don't exactly throw those up on every corner. What more do they need?

[biggus diggus]

Condos are not selling all that well, guys...

[CrestedSaguaro]

Originally Posted by biggus diggus

Condos are not selling all that well, guys...

The development at Central/Camelback is proposed mixed-use. Nothing was ever said about them building a condo development. Mixed-use can be anything. There's no reason at all for a development not getting built on that corner due to "waiting for the economy to be very strong".

[biggus diggus]

I understood the original idea was condos. After that they may have altered their idea and are now pinning for a hotel or offices or both but "mixed use" says a mix of all three probably. If the office market isn't hot and the condo market is cooling down, I don't think that says the economy is great for their purposes.

[Sun Belt]

Originally Posted by RonnieFoos

Quote from the article: "As for Cornerstone on Camelback, “Mixed use is still the plan,” Butler said. “That kind of development requires the economy to be very strong.”."

Umm. How much stronger does the economy need to be for them to build?

The economy is white hot, low unemployment, lower taxes, relatively low rates.

However...many buyers don't want to buy at what they perceive to be the 'top of the market' and 2008 is fresh in the memories of everybody. Builders recognize the business cycle [or at least should] and don't want to be caught with a half built bundling with zero buyers out there due to a depressed market.

In an environment that is pointing only towards rising rates [alongside higher debts] this is a precarious situation and I think that's why President Trump has been speaking out against the Federal Reserve and their rate hike forecast, it will likely lead us into a recession.

[Classical in Phoenix]

[Phxguy]

Originally Posted by Classical in Phoenix

Can't see the image you've posted

[Obadno]

Originally Posted by Classical in Phoenix

I fix