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Old Posted Feb 20, 2017, 4:01 AM
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Sorry, wwmiv, I could not disagree more. The state's Robin Hood rule already deals with making sure that schools in poverty districts receive additional funding to bridge the gap in property tax values from schools that are well-funded or over-funded. Social engineering on any level should be discouraged. In fact, I would argue that letting the markets operate in unadulterated capitalism would yield better results. Capitalistic markets ALWAYS correct themselves over time. A great example is the micro-unit development underway on the Eastside (I believe it's on East 5th). The developer saw a need for housing that is more affordable than the $1,800+ rents being charged at most new developments in Austin's core so they are building smaller units with rents that will be around $1,000 so people who would not qualify at $1,800 rents can qualify (without city or Federal subsidies) for their product and still enjoy living in a walkable, Central location.

I work for a local real estate investment firm here in town (we do some development too, but no high-rises) and can tell you first hand how difficult the city makes doing business these days. Many firms like mine recognize that there is a high-demand niche in the market for units that are not over-amenitized and not A++ luxury product. The demand is much higher, meaning that lease up is achieved much more quickly than a luxury product which then means we can sell the project when it is stabilized in a shorter amount of time while also delivering at a lower cots because we're not set on putting granite, quartz, marble, travertine tile, etc. in our developments. The combination of lower upfront cost and exiting in a much faster timeframe means that we can achieve returns that are just as good (or better) than some of the luxury developments. Returns to investors are boosted significantly by achieving a capital event (sale or refinance) in a shorter amount of time. So this is REALLY a "win-win" in that provides a quality, lower-tier product at more affordable rents to the market with a lower-risk investment to us and a shorter hold period.

And trust me when I say many developers are wary of Austin's ability to continue absorbing luxury product given the slow down in job growth and the staggering amount of supply of luxury product that has hit the market in the last 5 years. I strongly believe you will see more development geared towards middle class and low-income tenants in the next several years since it is an underserved market in Austin. This will occur without the city having to force the issue because of natural supply & demand economics. Again, the markets will always correct themselves over time...if the city doesn't interfere...I'm sure that the Brackenridge development for instance will deliver medical office space, housing and hotel space that will interact well with the neighborhood and be complimentary to the Medical School Complex without the city dictating what should be built there. That is the highest and best use of the property which developers are very well aware of and what the market will best embrace there.

On that note, I just read an ABJ article that quoted one of the Central Health representatives saying they were not made aware that a new CVC was being proposed through the project. Our city does not communicate very well either....
Your fundamental mistake is to (a) assume that markets correct themselves to remedy any form of segregation, (b) to assume that my primary concern was about education policy, and (c) believing that I am motivated by lack of supply to lower income as a normative concern rather than the normative concern I actually do have: the distribution of where the supply for lower income units is located geographically.

In fact, my primary concern is the geographic concentration of poverty which has significant negative systemic ramifications, only ONE of which is unequal education --- which Robin Hood seeks to remedy. However, the Robin Hood remedy is only a band aid and does not solve the underlying problem: the fact that poor people are geographically isolated from rich people. My aim is squarely at the underlying problem, rather than creating a band aid to cover up the problem: by redistributing where poor people live, so that they are not concentrated in any one particular area. In other words, we get rid of the "ghetto-ization" of systemic poverty.
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2017, 2:39 PM
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We should simply create a city-wide law that deals with the problem:

(insert % here) of units in every (a or b) development be given at (insert x here) share of (c or d) (e or f) (g or h), (insert exemptions here)

where:

a: multi-family rental and multi-family condo
b: multi-family rental only

c: city-wide
d: neighborhood

e: median
f: mean

g: (affordable for) income level
h: market rate rental price

The goal should be to redistribute poverty such that we don't cluster poverty in any one location. That way, all schools are dealt with and funded equally (because property taxes would eventually equalize). And thus, the poorest among us would get good education regardless of location. Of course, this is only a regional solution, not one that can or should be expropriated to the state or federal government.
A city-wide law could not be put in place because inclusionary zoning is illegal in the State of Texas. It would require a change of policy (and ruling party) at the state level before that could even be considered.
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2017, 1:38 AM
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That sort of thing makes me sad.
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Old Posted Feb 20, 2017, 11:08 PM
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Inclusionary zoning is illegal in Texas? Wow. That's sad.
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I don't want to get into a long political debate on a thread that is supposed to be about Brackenridge so I'm going to stop on that front...

On the note of Brackenridge, if there is ONE project that I think council would allow for higher FARs (especially if they wipe out half the density potential with a CVC extension) our of any proposed project right now it is probably this one. There is a stigma attached to the Medical School Complex in town. If the group selected puts a proposal together that brings street level interaction with the neighborhood like the farmer's market in the renderings, coupled with rental housing units, medical-oriented office space to compliment the Medical Complex and possibly a world-class hotel operation (like a Ritz-Carlton) I could actually see the city approving increased FARs without as many strings attached. Hopefully we'll get at least one building even taller than "up to 40 stories" in the end.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2017, 3:45 AM
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There is a stigma attached to the Medical School Complex in town.
And what data do you have to support this assertion?

None, because that data doesn't exist.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2017, 4:00 AM
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And what data do you have to support this assertion?

None, because that data doesn't exist.
In certain circles there is some resentment that local taxes were used to pay for something that U.T. should have done on their own dime.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2017, 5:02 AM
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In certain circles there is some resentment that local taxes were used to pay for something that U.T. should have done on their own dime.
What circles? Who? Where?

Can we stop speaking in innuendo and actually provide the info?
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2017, 6:31 AM
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It's entirely possible that both Phil and ATX, who live in/around Austin, have come into contact with people that have these feelings re: Brackenridge. There wouldn't be any data to provide like a link to an article.
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2017, 5:58 PM
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It's entirely possible that both Phil and ATX, who live in/around Austin, have come into contact with people that have these feelings re: Brackenridge. There wouldn't be any data to provide like a link to an article.
There have been a few articles around at least one opposed group (probably a small minority)

http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/...-transparency/
http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/...entral-health/
http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/...nds-continues/

https://communityimpact.com/austin/e...edical-school/
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Old Posted Feb 21, 2017, 5:59 PM
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Thank you!
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What a bizarre factoid. I never realized.

http://kut.org/post/lease-downtown-a...pital-included
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FOR LEASE: Downtown Austin 'Boulder' — Hospital Included

By SYEDA HASAN • APR 12, 2017

Next month, Austin’s Brackenridge Hospital will close its doors for good. Patients will be transferred to the new Dell Seton Medical Center just across East 15th Street. That means the spacious, and centrally located, Brackenridge campus will be open for new development. But the incoming tenant will have to contend with a unique feature of the property, something buried beneath the surface of the old hospital.

The rock room has long been an urban legend for hospital staff, and with new development on the horizon, its story has resurfaced. Juan Garza, vice president of finance and development at Central Health, which is leasing the property, confirmed that there is a giant rock buried beneath one of the hospital buildings. Garza said builders came across the infamous rock a few decades ago, during construction of one of the south towers.
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Old Posted Apr 17, 2017, 5:54 AM
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My parents' house in South Austin is also built on a giant underground rock. No foundation problems.
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Our neighborhood sits on a hill. You start to hit solid rock about 3 feet down. Oddly enough, the house next door to us sold about 2 years ago after our neighbors moved out. It's only just now being gutted and repaired. We went inside last year and it had major foundation problems so bad that the sheetrock was cracking all the way across the room in several of the rooms and most of the doors in the house wouldn't even shut. It looked like an earthquake hit it. They made foundation repairs, put on a new roof, painted it and gutted it. Every person who had come to look at it all left mumbling something about how much work it needed. I jokingly started calling it the crack house. lol
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Our neighborhood sits on a hill. You start to hit solid rock about 3 feet down. Oddly enough, the house next door to us sold about 2 years ago after our neighbors moved out. It's only just now being gutted and repaired. We went inside last year and it had major foundation problems so bad that the sheetrock was cracking all the way across the room in several of the rooms and most of the doors in the house wouldn't even shut. It looked like an earthquake hit it. They made foundation repairs, put on a new roof, painted it and gutted it. Every person who had come to look at it all left mumbling something about how much work it needed. I jokingly started calling it the crack house. lol
That's funny...I have a few small cracks in a few places in my house, including my foundation and in my driveway, sidewalks, and patio, giving me my own crack house. But my house was built on deep clay soil, and during the last drought, the clay soil dried out and shrank causing the houses in the area settle and become "crack houses". I'm going to steal that and start telling people I live in a crack house.
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They are definitely not wasting any time...nice..
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They are definitely not wasting any time...nice..
yeah, could you imagine if they stalled? hobo hilton
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They are definitely not wasting any time...nice..
Are they gonna implode the building? That would be fun to watch!
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It's kinda odd that they built that skywalk to the Brack garage. And as soon as they finished building it now they are tearing down Brack. LOL

OH uhhh, hey... hi! you may think that I am new here but I am not.

I couldn't log on to my old account... it must've been deleted since so long that I hadn't used it. But you might remember me as migol... been here since 2008.

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