Roll Call: Where Do You Live? - Page 5

Hammer Native · #81 Posted **Mar 23, 2008, 7:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by flar

The city has a neighbourhood boundary map available, that's where I find the "official" names:

http://map.hamilton.ca/Static/PDFs/G...Boundaries.pdf

I see that the city has kept some of the old village names for neighbourhoods, although they may be just over a bit from their original locations. Examples, Bartonville and Ryckman's Corners I believe are the older streets southeast of Upper James and Rymal.

DC83 · #82 Posted **Mar 23, 2008, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by flar

The city has a neighbourhood boundary map available, that's where I find the "official" names:

http://map.hamilton.ca/Static/PDFs/G...Boundaries.pdf

Sweet! I've been looking for this map forever! Thanks again, Flar!

I'd prefer if 'Central' were called 'Jamesville' since that what most area residents refer to it as.

Most residents in the east-east end near Eastgate Square usually refer to the area as simply "Eastgate". I think an overhaul of all the neighbourhood names is necessary... along with redistributing the current electoral wards to reflect the influx of residents downtown w/in the last 5 years or so.

As for my old hood (Heritage Green in Upp. Stoney Creek), it's not even listed! haha Must be an old map!?

BCTed · #83 Posted **Mar 23, 2008, 8:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by raisethehammer

no I haven't.
We were having a discussion about where exactly 'Downtown Hamilton' is and you said that Mac frosh consider Westdale to be Downtown. Reading disability?? Seems pretty clear to me.
And I'm not the one throwing around insults....as usual.

You:
- called me a troll
- stated that the things I said were stupid
- claimed that I had stated that Westdale was downtown.

All of this was in response to a perfectly legitimate post.

matt602 · #84 Posted **Mar 23, 2008, 11:13 PM**

I'm gonna agree, he didn't say he thought Westdale was downtown. He was referring to the Mac students thinking that. The reply was pretty un-necessary and way too rude.

A pretty dumb feud either way.

BCTed · #85 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 2:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by matt602

I'm gonna agree, he didn't say he thought Westdale was downtown. He was referring to the Mac students thinking that. The reply was pretty un-necessary and way too rude.

A pretty dumb feud either way.

It certainly is a silly feud. I tend to get into things with raisethehammer in large part because I strongly disagree with his manner of expressing himself on here, but this petty arguing has never gotten me anywhere --- I can never win even minor concessions in any debate, much less influence communication style. I will do my best to simply bite my virtual lip and let things slide.

HAMRetrofit · #86 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 3:15 AM**

^ How about just not posting unless you have relevant information or something to add to the conversation. No one gives a shit about how you interpret raisethehammer's posts. I think most dread the nonsense that you post anyways.

highwater · #87 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 3:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by DC83

Mayor Fred was suppose to rename the "wards" from numbers to neighbourhood names... he has yet to (big surprise). I could just imagine the old-timers, "Damned if I'll be a Corktownah, I'm a Ward 1'ah, dammit! I hate change!" hahaha <-- yes, apparently the old timers in Hamilton sound like New Englanders! haha

I guess I must be an oldtimer because I much prefer 'Ward 1' to the clunker they've come up with: 'Chedoke-Cootes'. Roles off the tongue much like Flambasterdas.

highwater · #88 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 3:33 AM**

Here's a link to an essay on the history of Ainslie Woods from our neighbourhood association newsletter.

http://media.awwca.ca/site_media/upl...lies_Woods.pdf

rousseau · #89 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 4:19 AM**

I'm an occasional lurker currently living in Stratford. Before that I lived on Herkimer in that kewl three-story apartment building between Park and MacNab (those apartments are long and narrow). I went to high school at Sir John A before flitting off to do school and travels and work elsewhere.

On various occasions people here in Stratford, upon learning that we moved here from Hamilton, have taken it upon themselves to either bash Hamilton or state explicitly that we have "moved up." Disdain is never an attractive quality. My wife, who didn't grow up in Canada, did not like Hamilton very much, but since we've moved away she's come to appreciate the very unpretentious character of the city.

Aside: Raisethehammer and HAMRetrofit need to get over themselves vis-a-vis BCTed. And who are you to presume that you speak for all of us?

the dude · #90 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 4:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by Hammer Native

I don't want to stray too much from the topic, but just for a bit of trivia I saw in Hamilton history articles the area south of Mac, (around Emerson St.) was actually a village on it's own called West Hamilton about a hundred years ago or so, before the city's boundaries went that far. It still has that village look to it even today.

strange as it sounds, i believe 'west hamilton' was actually part of ancaster until its annexation by the city of hamilton and the subsequent development of westdale. that's what the oldtimers tell me anyway.

and before the building of the 403, part of the chedoke ravine was actually known as "ainslie's wood." probably a lot like redhill park before...well, you know.

the dude · #91 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 4:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by rousseau

I went to high school at Sir John A before flitting off to do school and travels and work elsewhere.

when did you graduate from sjam?

raisethehammer · #92 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 12:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by BCTed

Mac frosh tend to consider Westdale as downtown.

don't try to make this about me or 'interpreting things' or anything else.
Yes, this did turn into a silly feud when you replied with your usual diatrabe.
We were chatting about exact definitions of downtown Hamilton when you added this beauty above.
I don't care who had written it, I would have called them out. I was laughing when I read it because it's so not true. Mac students know exactly where downtown is, even if they never go there.
Add some decent info to these discussions once in a while.
I regularly do research, post links, add ideas and like everyone else on this board, share great enthusiasm for our city.
You only come on here to argue and make dumb comments like the one above.
If anyone else on the board had made this statement and been called on it, they would have resolved the comment quickly....either with sources to prove this completely unknown 'fact' to those of us who have lived here our whole lives or we just would have got on with the discussion.
But when you're involved, everything turns into a big drama. this isn't a soap opera board. It's Hamilton ideas and discussion. If you don't have any, please follow your own advice zip your virtual lip.

DC83 · #93 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 1:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by highwater

I guess I must be an oldtimer because I much prefer 'Ward 1' to the clunker they've come up with: 'Chedoke-Cootes'. Roles off the tongue much like Flambasterdas.

Can't be worse than our Federal Riding names, ie: Ancaster-Dundas-Flamborough-Westdale haha

I would prefer to refer to my ward as 'Corktown-Central-Strathcona' or simply as 'Downtown'... it'd be a nice change. A change this city desperately needs.

No offense to your age or generation, but we need to distance ourselves as far away from your Hamilton Generation and concentrate on the future Hamilton Generations. Obviously whatever has been done the last 50 years or so has not worked. So it's time we try it our new way!

I'm surprised we even call councillors 'councillors' and not 'alderman' anymore. I'm too young to remember when that switched over, but I bet 'old timers' freaked when it did! hahaha

matt602 · #94 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 2:20 PM**

The Federal riding names are horribly outdated and made me shudder so many times during the last provincial election.

I hated having to vote under Hamilton East-Stoney Creek. I LIVE IN HAMILTON! I don't want anything to do with Stoney Creek.

DC83 · #95 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 2:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by matt602

The Federal riding names are horribly outdated and made me shudder so many times during the last provincial election.

I hated having to vote under Hamilton East-Stoney Creek. I LIVE IN HAMILTON! I don't want anything to do with Stoney Creek.

You think THAT'S bad, when I was living in Upper Stoney Creek, I was voting for Niagara-West-Glanbrook :s I was not in Niagara, nor was I in Glanbrook!! It made me so angry b/c it ended up going Conservative b/c there are so many hardcore Christians in the Lincoln Township area... it's kinda eerie out there.

So WHY would a MP from Niagara give a crap about a Hamilton suburb? Oh wait... they don't! hahaha

raisethehammer · #96 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 2:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by DC83

You think THAT'S bad, when I was living in Upper Stoney Creek, I was voting for Niagara-West-Glanbrook :s I was not in Niagara, nor was I in Glanbrook!! It made me so angry b/c it ended up going Conservative b/c there are so many hardcore Christians in the Lincoln Township area... it's kinda eerie out there.

So WHY would a MP from Niagara give a crap about a Hamilton suburb? Oh wait... they don't! hahaha

what the heck does 'hardcore Christian' have to do with anything?? I know plenty of people who voted Conservative last election that are as far from hardcore Christian as you can find. lol. Don't let the US media and their insane politics rub off on you. It's simply a different animal up here.

rousseau · #97 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 4:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by the dude

when did you graduate from sjam?

1985. Erm...probably right around the year you were born?

highwater · #98 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 5:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by DC83

You think THAT'S bad, when I was living in Upper Stoney Creek, I was voting for Niagara-West-Glanbrook :s I was not in Niagara, nor was I in Glanbrook!! It made me so angry b/c it ended up going Conservative b/c there are so many hardcore Christians in the Lincoln Township area... it's kinda eerie out there.

So WHY would a MP from Niagara give a crap about a Hamilton suburb? Oh wait... they don't! hahaha

I feel your pain. We got lumped in with Ancaster and Flamborough and now we have David "men are natural influencers, women are natural followers" Sweet.

flar · #99 Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 5:50 PM**

David Sweet, former president of the Promise Keepers, now our MP.

DC83 · #**100** Posted **Mar 24, 2008, 6:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by raisethehammer

what the heck does 'hardcore Christian' have to do with anything?? I know plenty of people who voted Conservative last election that are as far from hardcore Christian as you can find. lol. Don't let the US media and their insane politics rub off on you. It's simply a different animal up here.

You're completely correct and I apologize, rth. I would NEVER want to associate Canadian Christians to American Christians... those ones are just plain crazy! haha they care more about their personal agendas than the actual religion.

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Originally Posted by highwater

I feel your pain. We got lumped in with Ancaster and Flamborough and now we have David "men are natural influencers, women are natural followers" Sweet.

Oooh, ya, I forgot about that. That's a shame. I couldn't believe he got elected!? Oh well, he'll be out once then next election rolls around. Maybe Chapman can run against him? hehe