AUSTIN | Waterline (98 Red River) | 1,022 FT / 312 M | 73 FLOORS - Page 5

plinko · #81 Posted **Jan 3, 2021, 2:21 AM**

I have to be honest, I find the juxtaposed shapes on this one to be quite jarring. Not as bad as KPF’s Hudson Yards, but it still just looks odd. There was a proposal about 20 years ago in Denver called the Trango Tower which had some similarities (and basically the same height) by Richard Keating. It’s shape against the sky was much more elegant.

That being said, go Austin! Last I was there was 2 years ago (after previously having been there in 2000). It was like a completely different city.

C. · #82 Posted **Jan 6, 2021, 2:00 PM**

Maybe this is an unpopular opinion, but I like the new design MUCH better. Major improvement to the site plan too.

The ATX · #83 Posted **Jan 8, 2021, 2:08 AM**

Posted today by Urbannizer in the main thread for this project in the Austin sub-forum. Signage is going up around the site:

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Originally Posted by Urbannizer

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Signage

ILUVSAT · #84 Posted **Jan 9, 2021, 9:14 PM**

^^^Are you serious Clark?

treblelino · #85 Posted **Jan 25, 2021, 2:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by the atx

not that it matters much, but we're back at 1,022 feet for now. Here's a side by side of the two best renderings:

ugly

Echostatic · #86 Posted **Mar 2, 2021, 6:15 AM**

Site plan revision has been filed now.

bilbao58 · #87 Posted **Mar 2, 2021, 5:13 PM**

Looks like it's time for Wells Fargo Plaza in Houston to add that ornamental top the developers nixed 40 years ago.

wwmiv · #88 Posted **Mar 2, 2021, 5:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

Looks like it's time for Wells Fargo Plaza in Houston to add that ornamental top the developers nixed 40 years ago.

Any renderings of what that was gonna look like?

bilbao58 · #89 Posted **Mar 2, 2021, 6:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by wwmiv

Any renderings of what that was gonna look like?

None that are very good, but:

http://www.keatingarchitecture.com/projects/details/60

Zapatan · #90 Posted **Mar 2, 2021, 6:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by bilbao58

None that are very good, but:

http://www.keatingarchitecture.com/projects/details/60

Man I kinda wish that had been realized.

M. Incandenza · #91 Posted **Mar 6, 2021, 3:24 PM**

Sigh. Every skyscraper being built in the US is just: big rectangle, but with slightly irregular geometry to make it "distinctive." It's like high modernism but lacking all conviction, and it seems like a rut we've been in for 25 years now.

Like, if you're going to the trouble to build the tallest building in Texas, wouldn't it be worth adding 1-2% or whatever to the budget to at least give it a truly distinctive profile? You could become an icon for the whole state. Imagine if Frost Bank Tower were a supertall!

dc_denizen · #92 Posted **Mar 8, 2021, 1:08 AM**

^ agreed 100%

also a requirement: trees, trees, trees. because we're so green!

The ATX · #93 Posted **Mar 13, 2021, 6:02 AM**

Not that it matters much, but we're back at 1,030' for height from 1,022' based on the best available info.

KevinFromTexas · #94 Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 1:25 AM**

FAA permits for the building...

Work schedule is listed as 01/10/2022 to 10/10/2025.

1,034 feet - 98 Red River - Corner D
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...74692262&row=0

1,033 feet - 98 Red River - Corner A
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...4654130&row=17

1,023 feet - 98 Red River - Corner B
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...4689806&row=18

1,023 feet - 98 Red River - Corner C
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...4690836&row=19

canucklehead2 · #95 Posted **Mar 18, 2021, 6:44 AM**

I like it! Nice to see Austin's first Supertall moving forward especially during these uncertain times. At least everywhere else... ;-)

The ATX · #96 Posted **Jun 20, 2021, 5:15 PM**

The FAA approved the 1,034' height.

pianowizard · #97 Posted **Jun 20, 2021, 5:21 PM**

^Looks like Texas is getting a new tallest building! And for the first time, the state's tallest building won't be in Houston or Dallas.

KevinFromTexas · #98 Posted **Jun 20, 2021, 10:33 PM**

Technically, there have been other times. If you think of the Capitol that way, it was technically the tallest in Texas from 1888 until 1912 when the Adolphus Hotel in Dallas was built. The Texas Capitol is either 311 or 303 feet tall depending on who you ask, and the Adolphus Hotel is 312 feet.

Texas only has 4 buildings dating back to the 1920s that are more than 400 feet tall with two in Houston, and one each in Dallas and San Antonio. The first to crack 400 feet was the Magnolia Hotel in Dallas in 1923. By 1931, Texas had at least 16 buildings over 300 feet.

Zerton · #99 Posted **Jun 21, 2021, 1:41 PM**

I like the human-scale elements at the base. And how the building reacts to its context.

Overall though, it looks disjointed. I think it could be refined a bit.

pianowizard · #**100** Posted **Jun 21, 2021, 2:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

Technically, there have been other times. If you think of the Capitol that way, it was technically the tallest in Texas from 1888 until 1912 when the Adolphus Hotel in Dallas was built. The Texas Capitol is either 311 or 303 feet tall depending on who you ask, and the Adolphus Hotel is 312 feet.

Texas only has 4 buildings dating back to the 1920s that are more than 400 feet tall with two in Houston, and one each in Dallas and San Antonio. The first to crack 400 feet was the Magnolia Hotel in Dallas in 1923. By 1931, Texas had at least 16 buildings over 300 feet.

Thanks for the interesting information. Indeed, I did not think that far back in time. So, this means Austin is reclaiming the title of having the state's tallest building.