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[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by Biff

I may be in the minority here and all of the earthy people my not like this, but I believe they should build retaining walls on the Assiniboine from the Forks to Osborne and create a proper river walk that is immune from flooding. Some will say that forcing the river down a concrete canyon is not nature and we shouldn't do it, but the enhancements for city residents and tourists would be great. Think of Chicago or San Antonio (or any major city for that matter).

It has been said on here many times in the past that the Forks walkway should be raised, but I am talking about doing both sides of the Assiniboine. I know it would be expensive but in the long run I bet it would pay off.

Not at all a strange notion. Literally any other great river city has this exact thing. I would do it on both sides of the assiniboine to osborne and maybe even to hugo. I'd also extend that to the west banks of the red to the tip of point douglas and to the manitoba rowing club and on to the st vital bridge in the long term. I'd also have that on the east bank of the red from the norwood community centre to whittier park where the red and seine meet.

You could also have public docks at key points, maybe similar to where they are now.

[optimusREIM]

In case I didn't sound ambitious enough, they should restore some of the covered creeks and do fun stuff at the mouth of those creeks too. Rivers in Winnipeg are the most undervalued asset we possess.

[thebasketballgeek]

I completely agree. I’m in the Netherlands right now and the canals sifting through the city are an absolute delight. It also allows for really interesting land use such as high streets and mixed use development. I’m he boat houses are neat too.

Although I can see the other side where the ecological benefits of preserving our riparian forest and even enhancing it would be a massive boost to Winnipeg provided we can develop adjacent to it ala Edmonton by the river valley. I personally prefer having a buffer between the river and human activity.

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by Biff

I may be in the minority here and all of the earthy people my not like this, but I believe they should build retaining walls on the Assiniboine from the Forks to Osborne and create a proper river walk that is immune from flooding. Some will say that forcing the river down a concrete canyon is not nature and we shouldn't do it, but the enhancements for city residents and tourists would be great. Think of Chicago or San Antonio (or any major city for that matter).

It has been said on here many times in the past that the Forks walkway should be raised, but I am talking about doing both sides of the Assiniboine. I know it would be expensive but in the long run I bet it would pay off.

We have something those cities don't have: wildlife that use the riverbanks, deer being the main species.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by Kinguni

We have something those cities don't have: wildlife that use the riverbanks, deer being the main species.

Let's be real about the deer, they're not that exotic and kind of a pest for the most part.

[WinCitySparky]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Let's be real about the deer, they're not that exotic and kind of a pest for the most part.

Exactly, deer don’t belong in the city core

[Gravity Wins]

Strongly disagree with the last two comments. I grew up in Charleswood and would sometimes see deer in my backyard as a kid. It was something I totally took for granted and thought was normal. Now I'm older and live in another city, and see just how special it is to have deer living in Winnipeg.

They're beautiful creatures, and the fact that we can co-exist with them is something that not many cities the size of Winnipeg can say. One could also say that our connection to nature is one of the defining characteristics of Canada, and our main tourism draw. If Winnipeggers see deer as pests, we do so at our own peril.

[peg]

Originally Posted by Gravity Wins

Strongly disagree with the last two comments. I grew up in Charleswood and would sometimes see deer in my backyard as a kid. It was something I totally took for granted and thought was normal. Now I'm older and live in another city, and see just how special it is to have deer living in Winnipeg.

They're beautiful creatures, and the fact that we can co-exist with them is something that not many cities the size of Winnipeg can say. One could also say that our connection to nature is one of the defining characteristics of Canada, and our main tourism draw. If Winnipeggers see deer as pests, we do so at our own peril.

I do agree with you, as I also really enjoy having deer in the city, and wildlife corridors, like the riverbanks, are important for more living things than just deer.

But the other posts do make a good point about the deer population - it is out of control in the city. This is mainly due to the lack of predators, the obvious lack of hunting, and ample resources for the deer to feed and mate.

However, we also have cases of Chronic wasting disease (buzzword name: zombie deer disease) in Manitoba's deer population. This could be devastating to the local deer population, especially in Winnipeg where their population is so large. It may be nature's way of controlling the population but it is a prion and it's not a nice disease...

Chronic Wasting disease: (deer blood warning) https://thenarwhal.ca/chronic-wasting-disease-manitoba/

I think the issue is not that we have deer, but that their population is not managed well... and this causes them to be more of a 'pest'. We need to explore how to better manage their existence, and the river corridors in the city and try to create some sort of balance.

[WinCitySparky]

Originally Posted by Gravity Wins

Strongly disagree with the last two comments. I grew up in Charleswood and would sometimes see deer in my backyard as a kid. It was something I totally took for granted and thought was normal. Now I'm older and live in another city, and see just how special it is to have deer living in Winnipeg.

They're beautiful creatures, and the fact that we can co-exist with them is something that not many cities the size of Winnipeg can say. One could also say that our connection to nature is one of the defining characteristics of Canada, and our main tourism draw. If Winnipeggers see deer as pests, we do so at our own peril.

Charleswood isn’t the core. I grew up in Charleswood too and while beautiful, there were way too damn many and they were often a hazard and a nuisance.

[bomberjet]

The deer were here eons before the people were. They can live wherever they want. Same with the foxes, coyotes and whatever else. They pose no real threat to people, beyond you mowing them down with your car. If it was like BC where there are bears roaming around town on the regular, that's different.

That being said it shouldn't hold up a potential riverbank project in downtown, no matter how pie in the sky it is. The riverbank downtown is not adequate habitat for deer to live.

[rivercity]

I wouldn't worry about the deer. They aren't even native to Winnipeg but followed settlers here. I think the first observation of deer in Manitoba was in the early 1880s.

[esquire]

I honestly wonder if it would improve the situation for everyone if deer hunting became more popular. Keep the deer population in check, reduce the potential impact of chronic wasting disease, and hell, provide a source of meat.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by esquire

I honestly wonder if it would improve the situation for everyone if deer hunting became more popular. Keep the deer population in check, reduce the potential impact of chronic wasting disease, and hell, provide a source of meat.

Environmentally friendly meat to boot. I don't know that most people would want to deal with the hassle of hunting, hence why most people don't hunt. The amount of hoops you gotta jump through to get started is high, plus you have to be pretty knowledgeable and skilled to do it. And it that wasn't enough, it's hard work!

[esquire]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Environmentally friendly meat to boot. I don't know that most people would want to deal with the hassle of hunting, hence why most people don't hunt. The amount of hoops you gotta jump through to get started is high, plus you have to be pretty knowledgeable and skilled to do it. And it that wasn't enough, it's hard work!

I see all these people running around with camo hoodies and hunting bumper stickers on their F150s... you would think there are thousands of hunters in Winnipeg alone!

[bomberjet]

It's one thing to be a hunter. It's another thing to actually shoot something.

Astronauts spend like 98% of their career on the ground. Some never go to space. Same thing with some hunters lol

[Unbending]

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by esquire

reduce the potential impact of chronic wasting disease

Originally Posted by esquire

provide a source of meat.

let's eat those delicious prions, zoonosis here we come

[WinCitySparky]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

let's eat those delicious prions, zoonosis here we come

lmao

[peg]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

let's eat those delicious prions, zoonosis here we come

[esquire]

I assume hunters know better than to eat diseased deer?