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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 4:35 AM
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Okay, what's the deal with the fake accounts that have popped up lately?
All of them are probably coming from one or two people. I would guess UrbanBoy or SLCProjects. Projects really seemed to mentally deteriorate in the months leading up to his banning the first time and UrbanBoy acted like a boy.
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 4:54 AM
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All of them are probably coming from one or two people. I would guess UrbanBoy or SLCProjects. Projects really seemed to mentally deteriorate in the months leading up to his banning the first time and UrbanBoy acted like a boy.
There wasn't enough anti-mormonism in the posts to be urbanboy.
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 10:27 AM
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95 State at City Creek - completion date update

I noticed that on the Loopnet advertisement for 95 State, they list September 2021 for when the property will be ‘available.’

If it sticks to that date, that means some of the construction workers will start becoming available for other projects sometime in the summer, matching up with the expected start date of some of the towers we have been discussing.

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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 10:43 AM
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Yeah I still don't understand the opposition to height in that area. What community character are they trying to preserve? That area is basically empty lots, tent cities, and warehouses.
Couldn't agree more. Other than protecting some of the sightlines of the Rio Grande, I'd be fine with them upzoning to D-2 or even D-1 zoning over the entire area.
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 11:01 AM
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A couple random thoughts:

650 South (Patrinely) is very visible from I-15. While it's not the tallest of buildings at 10 stories, I think it does a fair amount to stretch the skyline further south. As similar sized buildings fill in around the Grand America it will start to seem like the CBD extends to 600 S instead of 400 S.
The more of these 'Midtown' projects we get, the better the skyline will look. However, until that full block parking lot that was discussed two pages ago is filled in with development, I think it will still feel somewhat separated.

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About a month ago I spoke with someone in the know in the Salt Lake market. I asked if he thought that all the highrise residential projects in various stages of planning could all be built or if it was a race to see who starts first and then the others might die off. His only response was that he was an investor in the Worthington deal and he knows for a fact that it is going to happen. So take that for what it's worth to you.
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Ya it seems Worthington has alot of power behind it and is moving quickly. Based on Kensingtons history and willingness to invest in other properties around SLC, I would be very surprised if that didn't happen either. Main St apartments also seems to have a large backing and a very experienced developer. I say it's likely all three of these buildings get built. Compared to what a lot of high rise apartment towers look like in other cities all three of these buildings are actually very attractive. It's an exciting time for SLC development and once a 5 to 600 footer is finally built the skyline will look amazing around it.
I think the difference now and why most if not all of these projects seem likely to be built at this point is because they are mostly projects led from out-of-state developers and financiers. This was almost unheard just a few years ago.

While the units in these tower projects will likely skew more expensive than other middensity apartments buildings, the downtown Salt Lake market has performed so well in recent years that non-Utah investors appear to have become confident that 'if they build it, people will come.' Even for units on the pricier side.

Huge and successful 6-7 floor apartment buildings have been going up consistently for the past several years, each project adding hundreds of new units, roughly equivalent to what one of these towers will be adding. So I suspect they feel that: if it can be done for a midrise, why not in tower form?

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I will point out that if these group of towers (Liberty Sky, Worthington, Kensington, & Main Street Apartments) prove to be successful and acquire good occupancy rates without appearing to be too competitive with one another (something I am not super concerned about), then an even larger tower boom is likely just around the corner. Something I think almost everyone on this forum will be excited about.
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 11:34 AM
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Has anyone heard of any update on the Salt Lake Plaza Hotel west of temple square? I thought they were tearing it down? Last I heard which was months ago was that Hudson was looking to tear it down and build something new...don’t know if anything has changed since then.
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 1:40 PM
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Couldn't agree more. Other than protecting some of the sightlines of the Rio Grande, I'd be fine with them upzoning to D-2 or even D-1 zoning over the entire area.
Salt Lake sure seems to heavily favor sight lines vs height or am over sensitive about this issue? And the sight lines they want to preserve appear to be from I-15. Maybe we could relax those restrictions. I keep hearing sight lines and preserving the shape of the skyline as opposition to expanding the D-1 zoning. Help me out if I’m missing something.
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 2:26 PM
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BSL has the scoop on the project at the former site of the homeless shelter in the Depot District. Breaking ground this fall, the "RIO" will be 7 stories, 210 units (1/4 of them 60-80% AMI), 4000 sq. ft. of ground floor retail, designed by Dwell Design Studio. Dwell is based in Atlanta and has also recently designed the CINQ and the new Utah Theater Tower.



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Has anyone heard of any update on the Salt Lake Plaza Hotel west of temple square? I thought they were tearing it down? Last I heard which was months ago was that Hudson was looking to tear it down and build something new...don’t know if anything has changed since then.
Welcome to the forum. Unfortunately you joined moments after another user was banned, so we may be keeping a skeptical eye on you. So long as you’re well behaved you shouldn’t have any problems.
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 2:55 PM
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It seems —in the current national political environment— there are opportunities for Utah and Salt Lake City to snatch up an NFL team, some companies like Coca-Cola and Delta, and perhaps land some NCAA championships:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...amp/7097612002

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...g-law.amp.html

https://apple.news/ARSSqMlQkSYiRahtONz-Z6g

MLB’s Allstar Game already relocated from Atlanta Georgia to Denver Colorado:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbs...ia-voting-law/

Utah makes voting convenient with mail-in ballots...

Salt Lake City Falcons... I like the sound of that.

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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 3:05 PM
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BSL has the scoop on the project at the former site of the homeless shelter in the Depot District. Breaking ground this fall, the "RIO" will be 7 stories, 210 units (1/4 of them 60-80% AMI), 4000 sq. ft. of ground floor retail, designed by Dwell Design Studio. Dwell is based in Atlanta and has also recently designed the CINQ and the new Utah Theater Tower.
I like it VERY much!

We now know what will replace Salt Lake City’s former homeless shelter Downtown

Taylor Anderson Reporting @ https://www.buildingsaltlake.com/we-...lter-downtown/



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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 3:38 PM
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Seems like a joke to have the project replacing the homeless shelter be only 1/4 affordable housing, and only down to 60% AMI.
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 3:51 PM
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I am so unapologetically happy with this Rio project, and the many projects coming online in that sector, such as CINQ. That area finally is establishing a very positive future.
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 4:24 PM
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I highly doubt Atlanta is losing any teams to SLC but we really are due for another pro team. Look at the support the Jazz and RSL have. I truly think any pro team will be heavily supported. Unfortunately I think the NFL is least likely. I’d be happy with baseball and I’m willing to try to get into hockey
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 4:31 PM
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We need Hatman's Rio Grande plan to open up the train yard areas between downtown and I-15 for our new pro sports stadium(s)! That's really the ideal place for a stadium, or RMP's power station area on North Temple.

Or do we think Sandy and/or Draper are going to make plays to steal potential pro teams away from the capital again?
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 4:32 PM
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It seems —in the current national political environment— there are opportunities for Utah and Salt Lake City to snatch up an NFL team, some companies like Coca-Cola and Delta, and perhaps land some NCAA championships:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...amp/7097612002

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nyt...g-law.amp.html

https://apple.news/ARSSqMlQkSYiRahtONz-Z6g

MLB’s Allstar Game already relocated from Atlanta Georgia to Denver Colorado:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbs...ia-voting-law/

Utah makes voting convenient with mail-in ballots...

Salt Lake City Falcons... I like the sound of that.
I don’t ever see SL getting a major league NFL team or MLB. Not trying to start a political conversation or bring up a negative debate. My personal opinion is bringing politics into sports will be the cancer and death of sports. People enjoy sports to escape their everyday life, stress, and it’s a time to not have to think or worry about things. Many teams and athletes have brought in their political and social agendas. Covid reasons aside I think that’s why you’re seeing a decline in interest, revenue, and overall value of the major league sports.

Nothing to do with political reasons but I don’t see SL getting another major sports teams because a few reasons. There are not enough large corporations/Fortune 500 companies here, the Mormon religion is against its people going to in person sporting events on Sunday, and I think there would be issues with even building a stadium in SL. There would be objections from all over the place whether it’s location, funding/tax dollars, ownership, etc.
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 4:45 PM
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The other issue with us getting a pro team of any kind is how our population reports. Even when we are mentioned in articles like this https://syndication.bleacherreport.c...names.amp.html

We get compared to places like Green Bay and not Tampa or Sacramento. The city has a perception problem so our only hope is someone like the CEO of Qualtrecs just deciding to pour money into a franchise.
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Granted, SLC isn't a top-tier market and it has some cultural peculiarities, but the Jazz seem to do pretty well regardless

I don't think this crop of companies/teams in Georgia will consider Utah for relocation because Utah is generally a conservative state (despite SLC itself). Making a political statement against a conservative bill in GA by leaving but then choosing to relocate to an even more conservative state wouldn't really make sense. That doesn't preclude a company/team from relocating to Utah under apolitical considerations in the future though. I think it will happen eventually. Utah people love their sports and would be crazy about a new pro team.

Part of the reason the Utah/BYU rivalry is so intense is that there's no local pro football team to challenge its dominance and supersede the dichotomy.
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Old Posted Apr 13, 2021, 4:52 PM
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Granted, SLC isn't a top-tier market and it has some cultural peculiarities, but the Jazz seem to do pretty well regardless

I don't think this crop of companies/teams in Georgia will consider Utah for relocation because Utah is generally a conservative state (despite SLC itself). Making a political statement against a conservative bill in GA by leaving but then choosing to relocate to an even more conservative state wouldn't really make sense. That doesn't preclude a company/team from relocating to Utah under apolitical considerations in the future though. I think it will happen eventually. Utah people love their sports and would be crazy about a new pro team.

Part of the reason the Utah/BYU rivalry is so intense is that there's no local pro football team.
There’s a difference between filling a 19,000 seat arena and a 70,000 seat NFL stadium. The Jazz organization get an exception from the NBA to not have to play regular season home games on Sunday because they know they wouldn’t be able to fill the arena. With that, there’s no way this area could fill an NFL sized stadium on Sundays. That alone will shut down any argument.
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There’s a difference between filling a 19,000 seat arena and a 70,000 seat NFL stadium. The Jazz organization get an exception from the NBA to not have to play regular season home games on Sunday because they know they wouldn’t be able to fill the arena. With that, there’s no way this area could fill an NFL sized stadium on Sundays. That alone will shut down any argument.
Disagree 100%. SLC would have zero issuea filling a stadium 6-8 times a year on a Sunday. No issue at all

The lack of fortune 500 companies is definitely problematic
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