Canada Line | Completed

[s211]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

No they are not designed to be skated on, skaters should have the respect to know there are areas that are allocated for skating, and areas allocated for general public use. Since when are skaters above everyone else? Many sidewalks look good for driving a smartcar down, but do people do it? No! I could easily drive my car down many bike paths that are wide enough, or how about Deer Lake Trails?

I fully support the construction of more skate parks and skating facilities in our cities and parks, but in doing so it would be nice to see the gesture returned in that they have the respect not to skate on utilities not allocated for doing so.

Honestly!

I've taken to purposely walking into the path of offending skateboarders to subconsciously deliver the message that they're welcome to take their vandalism elsewhere. Yes, kidz, in some place skate-boarding IS a crime. Now bugger off.

[Canadian Mind]

Gotta remember that most skaters who vandalize the area do so for kicks. So while more skateparks give the honest-to-goodness types a place to go and do their thing withou wrecking other peoples property, you will always have a large group who go out and do stupid shit... Either because of the risk involved in getting caught, the more challenging and interesting tricks done off of public property, or just to cause mayham and damage.

And it's not just skateboarders, people tag, bike ride, street-race, etc. for all the same reasons. not every person in a group that is percieved as causing damage and michief is doing that, but it's the bad apples that spoil it for all. If someone sprayed the side of my home I'd be pretty pissed off at people who tag shit... even though my younger brother Mike does it as an art form.

Really there isn't much you can do about it unless you either put cops or cameras on every street corner, enact and enforce heavy penalties. But then you get people bitching about living in a police state (read Olympic security measures overblown x10). And further to that, most the time it will be the parents paying the fines with little or no responsibility coming from the teen or adolecent. You might demand the parents get more control, but for most parents, having a kid who is willing to do what I said above regarding sateboarders for kicks, have little to no ability to control what their kids do. It isn't hard for a 16 year old to walk out the front door against his mother/father's protests. Short of a good beaing from a leather belt or locking him up in his room, both of which today are considered child abuse, there is nothing really the average parent or guardian can do to effectively control a rebellious teen/adolescent.

By teen and adolescents, I'm not just talking kids here, I'm talking folks from the ages of 12-25.

[Spork]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Look for a repeat when the Granville Street street furntiture is installed - unless they've changed the design...

Looks like they were designed to be skated on...

I can't see a problem with any of those. The only interesting one would be the benches, and they appear to have those notches in them.

[cabotp]

What are vehicular bollards?

[nova9]

Originally Posted by cabotp

What are vehicular bollards?

think of those permanent metal or cement pillars that go up to about 2 feet high.

[cabotp]

Ah ok, the loop shape thing they had in the picture threw me for a loop

[mr.x]

I've actually seen an automatic bollard rise up while a car was driving over it...wasn't pretty.

[CLC]

No one mentioned about flood at Broadway-City hall station? I didn't see it myself so I wonder how bad it was ?

[cabotp]

Nope never heard about it. So the trickle of water south of broadway, finally turned into a rushing river.

Anybody got some news on this flood, how bad etc...?

Originally Posted by mr.x

I've actually seen an automatic bollard rise up while a car was driving over it...wasn't pretty.

Now that you mention it I do remember seeing a youtube video of some driver trying to get into the bus only lane. Only to be hung up on the bollard. Funniest thing I ever saw

[Gordon]

I didn't see that but there was a fair amount of water coming off the roof on to the platformnear the main stairs at Stadium Station around 1PM yesterday. Kits got 51mm of rain yesterday.

[Xerx]

Cubic, TransLink Report Record Use of New Fare Collection System for Canada Line

VANCOUVER, BC--(Marketwire - September 30, 2009) - With the determination of an Olympic speed skater, the new Canada Line opened 15 weeks ahead of schedule and is setting new records for transportation ridership in the metropolitan Vancouver region of British Columbia. Cubic Transportation Systems, a subsidiary of San Diego-based Cubic Corporation (NYSE: CUB), provided the Canada Line's world-class fare collection system months before the start of the 2010 Winter Olympics.

On August 17, the South Coast British Columbia Transportation Authority, better known as TransLink, officially opened the Canada Line and hosted a "Fare-Free Day" across all 16 Canada Line stations, with thousands of passengers taking a free inaugural trip on the 12-mile system. A day later, on August 18, Cubic's fare collection equipment began operation. So far, TransLink has seen an average of 82,500 riders per day since the fare collection system launched. Passenger support of the new line has been very good, and the forecast of achieving 100,000 daily riders within two years of opening is well on track.

"We're very pleased that this project was completed ahead of schedule and that the new line is so popular. We will be able to ensure that the system operates smoothly for our many customers and for the scores of Olympic spectators coming to Vancouver in 2010," said Ron Aitken, Director, Contract Services and Business Development for TransLink.

"Demand has exceeded expectations, and Cubic is proud that we are part of a system which serves local needs now and will be playing an important international role in the near future," commented Richard Wunderle, senior vice president and general manager for Cubic Transportation Systems, which designed, developed, manufactured and installed the new system.

The Canada Line extends from Vancouver's waterfront to the city of Richmond, and to Vancouver International Airport. The Cubic-developed fare collection system includes new touchscreen vending machines that allow passengers to select from six languages -- English, French, German, Chinese, Japanese and Punjabi -- to purchase tickets. Patrons can use cash, Visa and MasterCard credit cards and certain debit cards for payment. Cubic also delivered ticket validating machines which allow FareSaver program participants to validate their ticket before boarding a bus or train.

All transactions are processed through Cubic's Nextfare Solution Suite®, a powerful central computer system that provides sophisticated data reporting, administrative and management capabilities.

The successful launch of the Canada Line ticketing system is Cubic's latest effort in two decades of transportation projects in British Columbia. Cubic's first project was delivering fareboxes for Coast Mountain Bus, a TransLink subsidiary. Later, Cubic developed and installed ticketing systems for the SkyTrain's Millennium and Expo rail lines. The interoperability of Cubic's ticketing systems lets passengers transfer seamlessly between TransLink's bus and rail services.

Source:http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Cubic-Corporation-NYSE-CUB-1052390.html

[cabotp]

82,500, Ok start. Thought it would have been better. I guess this is where rezoning and population growth along the corridor will help and must be done.

I wonder if we are loosing potential customers later in the evening when the much longer waits are happening. People are choosing to drive instead as it becomes much more quicker.

[deasine]

Originally Posted by cabotp

82,500, Ok start. Thought it would have been better.

I wonder why...

[cabotp]

Many reasons I guess, what are yours?

[GoogalieBear]

Originally Posted by cabotp

82,500, Ok start. Thought it would have been better. I guess this is where rezoning and population growth along the corridor will help and must be done.

I wonder if we are loosing potential customers later in the evening when the much longer waits are happening. People are choosing to drive instead as it becomes much more quicker.

Yap, they lost me. I took the train with my toddler a few times between CityHall and KingEd during the 5pm rush hour, needless to say he did not enjoy it much being crushed against the crowd. I didn't mind it myself, but then I survived the Tokyo commute for a year. Now we stick with the bus, while the wait is longer, we only have a short distance to go, the bus is practically empty and makes for a much more pleasant trip with a kid in tow.

[cabotp]

^ Well at least you didn't jump into a car. Whether you take the bus or the train in the end it is the same thing. One less car on the road

[djh]

Originally Posted by CLC

No one mentioned about flood at Broadway-City hall station? I didn't see it myself so I wonder how bad it was ?

Yes, I saw the flood. Basically it's mostly due to all of the never-ending road construction that has beleaguered Cambie for the last howeverlong. The drainholes along Cambie are all blocked with silt, so the rainwater was just rushing over them, creating a major rushing river down the hill.

I walked down from Cambie/16th to Cambie/Broadway to catch the skytrain. The torrent grew and grew on each block. My shoes were soaked by the time I got to the station just from crossing the roads where the water could not enter the drains. CoV guys were working on the sewers at a couple of locations.

And when I finally got to the skytrain station, low and behold, their drains were blocked! And to top it all, the station entrance is a nice long downward slope, so the water was running into the station, down the slope and sitting there pooling. GREAT DESIGN!!!

I heard an old man shouting at the station attendants saying "This station was badly-designed!" as he wagged his finger at them. If *he* could see it, you'd have thought somebody in the design department would have thought the design process through...
Or maybe they used the same person that thought they'd rename Commercial Drive's station "Comm'l - Bdway" on the station signage...Sheesh

[mr.x]

Definitely...crowding and waits could definitely turn people off, especially if it's a new service.

83,000 is decent, though i personally expected it to be at about 90,000 this time around.


In Asian cities prone to typhoons and monsoons, underground station entrances are actually sloped upwards to prevent this from happening. And in some cases, they even have stairs.

[Gordon]

The torrential downpour mid day yesterday was extremely unusual in it's severity, the drains in some areas probably could not handle it.Considering the geography around Broadway-City Hall Stn they probably should have am excess or drainage capacity.

[SpongeG]

i missed all the weather all i saw was sun yesterday