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Old Posted May 12, 2025, 1:03 AM
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My question for that Vancouver proposal is whether or not the view cones allow for it.
The new city council has changed or eliminated much of the view cone stuff.
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Old Posted May 12, 2025, 7:02 PM
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A first serious proposal for the Portlands in Toronto.


source: urbantoronto.ca

This will include residential and film studio space.
115 Saulter Street South
Category Residential, Commercial (Retail, Industrial)
Status Pre-Construction
Number of Buildings 1
Height 608 ft / 185.25 m, 548 ft / 167.00 m
Storeys 53, 47
Number of Units 1046











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Old Posted May 12, 2025, 7:41 PM
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There's opportunity to create something interesting like the naturalised Don River Mouth. Instead, it's a boring oversized twin tower development on an oversized podium that is anywhere Greater Toronto.

The brick warehouses and concrete towers may have worked as the separate structures the design is trying to fake. I don't think, deep down, anyone is fooled. It's disjointed as towers on a podium.

I'm pretty sure other blocks consisting of the same forumla twin 40 to 50 storey towers on 10 storey block sized podium have been posted for the Portland
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Old Posted May 12, 2025, 8:22 PM
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The site is in no way connected to the Don Mouth Naturalization and Port Lands Flood Protection project. It's south of where the new Metrolinx rail hub will be. This area from the get-go has been planned for intensification and urbanization. The river has to turn west at its current location due to infrastructure restrictions and existing long-term tenants along the waterfront like Pinewood Studios. The McCleary portion of land was not able to be part of any re-naturalization, as the flow of water here had to be directed west.

soure: urbantoronto.ca



It's the first of a massive buildup along Lakeshore East. Zero impact on green-space, and it will be part of turning old brownfields and derelict, rundown warehouses into multi-use developments.


The current very ugly site.



Planning for high density construction was done years ago for this location during the design stage for the Lower Donlands area.
This will be located in the McCleary District.






The western edge of the McCleary District is the edge of the new naturalized mouth of the Don.



If you don't like it WS you can contact them here, but you might be several years too late.
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Old Posted May 13, 2025, 1:50 PM
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Higher density doesn't have to be so formulaic. Skyscrapers on giant podiums is hardly an attractive built form. It's a way to warehouse people in large scale development. I'm disturb with Canada warehousing people like a heavily populated Asian or developing nation. Densities consisting of skyscrapers on mid rise podium are also questionable for the Portlands. It's not close enough to downtown and it's disconnected being built out into the lake.

This neighbourhood is part of the overall Portlands masterplan which includes the aforementioned interesting flood control measures that created Villiers Island which, of course, has been renamed Ookwemin Minising for Libtards to feel socially superior but, doesn't accomplish anything.
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Old Posted May 13, 2025, 1:58 PM
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Higher density doesn't have to be so formulaic. Skyscrapers on giant podiums is hardly an attractive built form. It's a way to warehouse people in large scale development. I'm disturb with Canada warehousing people like a heavily populated Asian or developing nation. Densities consisting of skyscrapers on mid rise podium are also questionable for the Portlands. It's not close enough to downtown and it's disconnected being built out into the lake.

This neighbourhood is part of the overall Portlands masterplan which includes the aforementioned interesting flood control measures that created Villiers Island which, of course, has been renamed Ookwemin Minising for Libtards to feel socially superior but, doesn't accomplish anything.
There's a bit of a housing crisis in the GTA, what do you propose? The sea of SFH in the GTA is unsustainable. Now if we're talking missing middle there is a conversation to be had there.
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Originally posted by jollyburger. Updated renderings of a Brentwood proposal in Burnaby.

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Bunch of new (?) renderings of that Buchanan West project by Millennium on Lougheed Highway. Looks like a project that belongs on Alberni.

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The development, on a former industrial site, will comprise new homes, hotel rooms and retail space in two towers that both enhance and complement the existing skyline.

Tall buildings in an active seismic zone demand a robust structural system. What if this could enrich their design, rather than stifle it? Rethinking structural requirements led us to embrace solidity with a curving, concrete exoskeleton around the two towers.

From afar, this outer armour creates a distinct, softened form in the skyline. As you move closer, you can see a shining secondary palette of bronze panels and metalwork around the windows that add a warm-toned, natural finish at a human scale.

Under the grand cathedral-like arches at the base, you can walk along a sheltered colonnade where the textured exoskeleton meets the ground in a format that is uplifting and protects you from the elements.









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I know this was shown a few pages back, but this is an overview of the Railside development starting construction in Winnipeg this summer. Ten buildings. Six different architects and developers. 400 residential units with commercial space on the ground floor of each building. A community of 4-6 storey buildings focused on courtyards and narrow lanes instead of streets. The development is car-free.

This is on the last piece of land at The Forks, which is the main public space and tourist attraction in the city. Four million visitors per year. It was a former downtown railyard. This land has been a parking lot since the site began development in the late 80's. The plan is that this is the first phase, and the rest of the parking lot will be filled out in the same way over time.


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Originally posted by jollyburger. Updated renderings of a Brentwood proposal in Burnaby.
Those are excellent! Gives a hint of Arabic influence and has little of the bland repetitiveness often seen in contemporary residential highrises that typically just have glass window-wall and cantilevered balconies.
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I know this was shown a few pages back, but this is an overview of the Railside development starting construction in Winnipeg this summer. Ten buildings. Six different architects and developers. 400 residential units with commercial space on the ground floor of each building. A community of 4-6 storey buildings focused on courtyards and narrow lanes instead of streets. The development is car-free.

This is on the last piece of land at The Forks, which is the main public space and tourist attraction in the city. Four million visitors per year. It was a former downtown railyard. This land has been a parking lot since the site began development in the late 80's. The plan is that this is the first phase, and the rest of the parking lot will be filled out in the same way over time.


Awesome

I cannot wait to see the finished project and how it ties everything together and becomes one of Canada's coolest hoods.
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I'm always impressed by the renderings of the Winnipeg proposals that get posted here, but what has been built recently in the city that demonstrates those design standards in the real world?
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I know this was shown a few pages back, but this is an overview of the Railside development starting construction in Winnipeg this summer. Ten buildings. Six different architects and developers. 400 residential units with commercial space on the ground floor of each building. A community of 4-6 storey buildings focused on courtyards and narrow lanes instead of streets. The development is car-free.

This is on the last piece of land at The Forks, which is the main public space and tourist attraction in the city. Four million visitors per year. It was a former downtown railyard. This land has been a parking lot since the site began development in the late 80's. The plan is that this is the first phase, and the rest of the parking lot will be filled out in the same way over time.


I like this development. It reminds me a lot of Orestad district in Copenhagen. Similar approach to pedestrian scale and accessibility, variety of architects bringing different design approaches. Will make for an interesting
area for people living there and visiting.
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I'm always impressed by the renderings of the Winnipeg proposals that get posted here, but what has been built recently in the city that demonstrates those design standards in the real world?
Winnipeg is going through a bit of a boom right now due to a pretty pro-densification mayor and council. We jumped into the deep end with HAF and that's how a lot of the renders you're seeing are getting developed. If you want some concrete examples, West Broadway Commons and 308 Colony, the net-zero high rise which is nearing completion are just two of the many projects underway in the city. In five years is when you'll be able to see tangibles for these projects haha.
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Old Posted May 14, 2025, 9:02 PM
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I like this development. It reminds me a lot of Orestad district in Copenhagen. Similar approach to pedestrian scale and accessibility, variety of architects bringing different design approaches. Will make for an interesting area for people living there and visiting.
I was part of the master planning team and we visited there as a precedent...also Aker Brygge in Oslo.

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I also designed this guy....I know the arches have been the subject of discussion, but I'm pretty confident that in real life it is going to create an awesome pedestrian condition and a unique architectural expression that some will love and some will hate.....indifference is the enemy in my books.

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West Broadway Common really weird massing .... like bending around a view cone massing. I guess it's tall enough that the odd massing is less noticeable from street level than in renderings. The brick cladding is really nice and with the black framed windows. The white siding looks like the cheapest vinyl out there. Fortunately, there's not much of it.
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I also designed this guy...
Beautiful work
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That's some great city-building stuff in Winnipeg. None of the buildings on their own are remarkable (but all are very nice), but taken as a whole will create an interesting & human-scaled neighbourhood. This is how you build great urban spaces.

It's the antithesis of the all too common variety of cynical, investment-maximizing high-rise development as embodied by those Portlands towers.
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That's some great city-building stuff in Winnipeg.
Now if only we could get a couple new towers downtown to fill out our skyline haha.
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