Salt Lake:Official development news thread

[DENrising]

Originally Posted by urbanboy

I really wish 222 had been designed with something different on its top, it is very hard to distinguish from afar, it just seems to blend in and IMO doesn't do much for the skyline. I'm kind of disappointed.

[DENrising]

Originally Posted by delts145

I wanted you guys to see this before and after pic from the
Denver Comp. thread. I knew many of you would be as inspired
by it as I am.
This is some of the type of infill that I would like to see around town,
particularly in the Gateway and Depot Districts. The after picture
was posted earlier, at the top of the page by escodu05. I had just
assumed that the project was a nice restoration of some great
historic structures. Then later on down the page, mr1138 posted
a before picture of what the project looked like in 2004. I was stunned
to say the least.
You guys who think like me, please push this type of construction
on anybody and everybody you know, who will be
engaged in future projects downtown. Wow, would I also love
to see a few projects like this on 4th south heading up to the
Univ. or on State.
Heck, there's so many applications for something like this I wouldn't
know where to begin to start the first project.





escodu05

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I have to agree, this is one sexy corner of LoDo, and IMO, would be very hard to replicate that in SLC. The blocks there are 1/4 the size of SLC's blocks, and much more walkable and cozy. You'd have to build alot to cover one horizontal block, I'm sure the price for the frontage would be higher than just on a corner, and we like to see height also.

Since Lodo is a historical district, you see the new building fits in with the historical theme of the area, and notice Union Station just down the street. I like how the modern glass building doesn't really front this street, but you can still see it's there. Lodo is a masterpiece.

As far as 4th South, well, there are so many obstacles on that thruway, I think we're stuck with what we got there. :-(

[T-Mac]

Sorry guys. I didn't get as many pics as I wanted to yesterday. With the marathon going on it was hard to get around downtown. Here are a few that I was able to get. The only one's I could get of the Hyatt were from the viaduct as I drove by.

Hyatt at the Gateway






Daft Building Renovation

[John Martin]

Huh, I thought they would've taken down the plastic and tape from the window by now, I saw them painting it like two months ago.

[Future Mayor]

Originally Posted by SLCrising

I have to agree, this is one sexy corner of LoDo, and IMO, would be very hard to replicate that in SLC. The blocks there are 1/4 the size of SLC's blocks, and much more walkable and cozy. You'd have to build alot to cover one horizontal block, I'm sure the price for the frontage would be higher than just on a corner, and we like to see height also.

Since Lodo is a historical district, you see the new building fits in with the historical theme of the area, and notice Union Station just down the street. I like how the modern glass building doesn't really front this street, but you can still see it's there. Lodo is a masterpiece.

As far as 4th South, well, there are so many obstacles on that thruway, I think we're stuck with what we got there. :-(

Wow, that's a pessimistic view.

I don't think this is beyond SLC's ability. Yes the blocks here are bigger, but there are many opportunities to break up those blocks and improve on existing mid block streets or create mid block streets.

As for 400 S I think the 400 S that we know and tolerate today will be a drastically different street in 10-20 years. I think we will start seeing a lot more redevelopment along the street and that development will come to the sidewalk and be less focused on cars. Many more residents, 1st level retail and office space.

Placing some great buildings like this along 400 S at the corners can then extend the look along the north south streets. There is so much potential for developments just like this, throughout east downtown.

[cololi]

Originally Posted by SLCrising

I have to agree, this is one sexy corner of LoDo, and IMO, would be very hard to replicate that in SLC. The blocks there are 1/4 the size of SLC's blocks, and much more walkable and cozy. You'd have to build alot to cover one horizontal block, I'm sure the price for the frontage would be higher than just on a corner, and we like to see height also.

Since Lodo is a historical district, you see the new building fits in with the historical theme of the area, and notice Union Station just down the street. I like how the modern glass building doesn't really front this street, but you can still see it's there. Lodo is a masterpiece.

As far as 4th South, well, there are so many obstacles on that thruway, I think we're stuck with what we got there. :-(

The blocks in Lodo are rectangular, not square. According to the measuring tool in google earth, the narrow side is roughly 350 feet, the long side about 550 feet. SLC are 600x600. The long side is roughly the same. I don't know if too many people, while standing on the corner, can tell the difference between 550 feet and 600 feet.

Lodo is a masterpiece, and certain areas of downtown SLC can certainly become something similar. As far as 400 South, there are some very big obstacles, includng sidewalk width and proximity to travel lanes, auto centric land uses, and property owners who think their land is worth as much as land in the CBD. This is probably the biggest deterrent to new development on 400 S. These will all change over time, the rate of change will be very slow.

Another big issue with 400 South is that it is a state road, and well, UDOt is in the business of moving cars.

[delts145]

Originally Posted by delts145

I wanted you guys to see this before and after pic from the
Denver Comp. thread. I knew many of you would be as inspired
by it as I am.
This is some of the type of infill that I would like to see around town,
particularly in the Gateway and Depot Districts. The after picture
was posted earlier, at the top of the page by escodu05. I had just
assumed that the project was a nice restoration of some great
historic structures. Then later on down the page, mr1138 posted
a before picture of what the project looked like in 2004. I was stunned
to say the least.
You guys who think like me, please push this type of construction
on anybody and everybody you know, who will be
engaged in future projects downtown. Wow, would I also love
to see a few projects like this on 4th south heading up to the
Univ. or on State.
Heck, there's so many applications for something like this I wouldn't
know where to begin to start the first project.

escodu05

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Wow, that's a pessimistic view.

I don't think this is beyond SLC's ability. Yes the blocks here are bigger, but there are many opportunities to break up those blocks and improve on existing mid block streets or create mid block streets.

As for 400 S I think the 400 S that we know and tolerate today will be a drastically different street in 10-20 years. I think we will start seeing a lot more redevelopment along the street and that development will come to the sidewalk and be less focused on cars. Many more residents, 1st level retail and office space.

Placing some great buildings like this along 400 S at the corners can then extend the look along the north south streets. There is so much potential for developments just like this, throughout east downtown.

Good points all. I especially couldn't agree with you more, Future Mayor. My main reason for the original post
was to point out the amazing difference in the before and after.

Also, I would be very quick to point out as I also posted in the CCC thread this morning, that Salt Lake City DOESNOT
by any means take a back seat to any cities,"particularly in this region" when it comes to it's architectural projects
over the past ten years. If anything, we're ahead of the game, and in some particular cases WAAAAY ahead of
the game.

There are an infinite number of locations in the metro where something of this style/design would be appropriate and
very doable. I am every bit as enamored with Birkhill as this project pictured above, and even more exited about
the specific style of Broadway Park.

[delts145]

This is a little off topic, but could someone explain to me the significance of the 'red faced moniker' placed in front of all of our local thread titles???? Hmmmm.. I can only imagine who chose that as a notation mark.

[MetroFanatic]

Originally Posted by delts145

This is a little off topic, but could someone explain to me the significance of the 'red faced moniker' placed in front of all of our local thread titles???? Hmmmm.. I can only imagine who chose that as a notation mark.

It's supposed to make it easier for us to find Utah/Salt Lake related threads.... like it was hard to begin with.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by T-Mac

Sorry guys. I didn't get as many pics as I wanted to yesterday. With the marathon going on it was hard to get around downtown.

You should of ran the marathon with your camera.

[Orlando]

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa5279/is_20090316/ai_n31511709/?tag=content;col1

[Future Mayor]

Thanks for the post Orlando. I have seen this building and the courtyard being restored and have been anxious to find out when it was opening and what type of food it would be.

That area of State between 600 S and 800 S is starting to become a nice little destination. You have Decades and Sparks along with The Bayou just to the north, along with a bar on the West sides of State, now Sapa is opening on the corner. I'm excited.

Speaking of new restaurants, has anyone heard an update on the opening of the new place in the Daft Building? I'm REALLY excited for that one to open.

[delts145]

That does sound great, as far as the developing district and also the restaurant. The Vietnamese kitchen can be fantastic, if done right.

Speaking of ethnicity. Did any of you guys catch the Miss USA pageant? Hey, I dvr'd it and I admit I liked it waaaay too much. Anyway, Miss Utah was soooo hot, and made it to the final four. She was ethnic, very exotic, with a great sounding slavic name. She really did Utah proud. It was great to see someone other than the typical blonde. Not that I have anything against blondes. Sorry guys, she was so incredibly hot, I just had to say something.

[nickfreakingrules]

Originally Posted by delts145

That does sound great, as far as the developing district and also the restaurant. The Vietnamese kitchen can be fantastic, if done right.

Speaking of ethnicity. Did any of you guys catch the Miss USA pageant? Hey, I dvr'd it and I admit I liked it waaaay too much. Anyway, Miss Utah was soooo hot, and made it to the final four. She was ethnic, very exotic, with a great sounding slavic name. She really did Utah proud. It was great to see someone other than the typical blonde. Not that I have anything against blondes. Sorry guys, she was so incredibly hot, I just had to say something.

lol, yep i saw it. i loved how miss california blew it with her views on marriage equality. very appropriate with the whole prop 8 mess.

but enough girl talk, lets get back to development news.

[T-Mac]

I went and saw Wicked last night at the Capitol Theater. It was amazing. The theater was packed. The standby line at 5:30 had stretched down to West Temple. Bring on the larger theater!!!

[SLC Projects]

That just to show that SLC really really needs that larger theater. What's the hold up?

[MetroFanatic]

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

That just to show that SLC really really needs that larger theater. What's the hold up?

Banks don't want to loan money on account of the economy.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by T-Mac

I went and saw Wicked last night at the Capitol Theater. It was amazing. The theater was packed. The standby line at 5:30 had stretched down to West Temple. Bring on the larger theater!!!

Not only is our too-small theatre packed now, but the show would have come to SLC a couple of years sooner if we'd had a larger theatre.

[skyguy414]

Taken yesterday:

[TANGELD_SLC]

Great shot, skyguy!

The skyline looks much less gap-toothed from that angle