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Old Posted Feb 20, 2007, 1:22 AM
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Also when in Toronto last I noticed how many Sobey's were 24/7........it actually made me very Jelous...........I hope they come out to Vancouver.........

same with Pizza Pizza and The Pickle Barrel.................the Barrel RULES hurrey up and come to Vancouver
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there is sobeys that is 24/7 about 5 mins from and a AP that is 24hrs 10 mins away from me. It more useful then you would think.
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must be nice

labour shortage or not as long as I have been in Vancouver there has been maybe two 24 hour grocery stores

there are two 24 hour shoppers that i know of - one in the west end and one in surrey

other than that its gas stations - a lot of which lock their doors and you have to ask through the window or 7-11 - most corner stores seem to shut up early out my way - like 10 pm

also - are all malls still open late in ontario? the only mall open to 9 pm 6 days a week here is metrotown - all the others close at 6 and only stay open till 9 on wed-fri - archaic antiquated - grrr
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In edmonton theres hardly any 24 hour anything! there used to have 24 hour shoppers now i think theres 1 or 2 now most at up to 12am. Ofcouse 7-11 is open 24 hours but no grocerystores no walmarts (tho they were 24 hours during christmas but no acully cashiers worked it was all "self serve cashiers"


Theres a HUGE Job shortage here! go anywhere expect poor service or wait in line that is 20 deap
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Best Buy expands stores in U.S., China, Canada

The leading consumer electronics retailer expects global growth of about 10 percent by the end of the year.

NEW YORK (Reuters) -- Best Buy Co. Inc. plans to open about 130 stores in the United States, Canada and China during its fiscal year beginning March 4, the company said Wednesday.

The top U.S. consumer electronics retail chain said it expects global retail square footage of about 46 million square feet, representing growth of around 10 percent, by the end of the year.

In the United States, the company expects to open about 90 stores and to operate more than 900 by the end of the year.

In China, Best Buy expects to open up to 23 Five Star stores during the fiscal year, and also plans to open two or three Best Buy locations in the next 12 to 18 months. It expects to generate about $100 billion in annual sales in China by 2010.

Best Buy opened its first store outside North America, in Shanghai, in December. The company estimates its China retail square footage will exceed 5 million square feet by the end of its new fiscal year.

The company plans to open up to 14 stores in Canada, equally split between its Best Buy and Future Shop brands, in the year.
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java u, Canadian coffee bistro chain, to open 8 to 10 outlets in UAE and Bahrain over next five years

java u, the well-known Canadian chain of coffee bistros and catering services, with 20 stores in Canada and North America, has announced plans to open 8 to 10 outlets in the UAE and Bahrain alone, over the next five years.

The first outlet of java u outside Canada and North America was opened today at Cascades Building in Dubai Marina, offering a distinctive range of hot and cold coffee beverages and a full-service menu featuring grills, steaks, sandwiches and salads. Two more stores are planned to be opened in the UAE before the end of the year

java u is being brought to the UAE by the Dubai-based Mostafa Bin Abdullatif Group LLC, which has interests in business systems, gift items, electronics, media and real estate.

Speaking at the launch of the Dubai outlet, Gary Hamady, the Group's Manager for Retail - Food & Beverages, said: 'java u has evolved into a chain that goes beyond food and coffee experience. Each java u outlet is a vibrant, upscale meeting spot, exuding a unique ambience. We are delighted to bring java u to Dubai to present an experience not duplicated anywhere else in this region.'

'The ingredients used at java u are fresh and all main menu items are prepared in-house according to java u standards. The Dubai outlet has been positioned as an upscale coffee shop with offerings of a full-service restaurant, with many dishes customized to suit local and regional culinary preferences,' added Hamady.

'With the launch of java u, Mostafa Bin Abdullatif Group is also delighted to bring another new concept to the region -- a café with an adjoining upmarket gift shop under the name 'chez u', offering an exquisite range of crystal gift items, dinner sets, cutlery, hand-painted tables and trays, etc. The entire range is from reputed brands like Heinrich Winterling, Andrea Fontebasso, Miller Rogaska and Pf4. Our plan is to re-brand The New Store retail outlets as Chez u.'

Mitchell Simon, Assistant Director, Operations, Java u, Canada, said Dubai shared a cosmopolitan ambience common to Montreal where java u originated a decade ago and has 16 outlets to date.

'java u is not just about food and coffee, it is about people and personality. We offer fresher and healthier alternatives to run of the mill coffee stores, and most of our dishes are prepared in-house with fresh ingredients,' said Simon. 'Another strong point is that each outlet reflects the ethos of the locality.'

Asked why java u took nearly ten years before venturing into overseas markets, Simon said: 'We did not want to expand until we had perfected our offering in the home market. Now we are ready to roll, with new stores planned for Jordan, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Bahrain and, of course, the UAE.'

Chef Christophe Vollard from Montreal, who is training the staff, said the menu for the Dubai outlet was planned keeping in mind the tastes of the people of the region. 'Our range of exotic drinks, especially the layered drinks, is very unique, and appreciated by our customers everywhere. We are committed to providing a very different dining experience to our customers in this market.'

Nizar Karim, General Operations Manager, Java u Dubai, commented: 'We have gone to great lengths to replicate the java u experience in Dubai. Factors like larger portions and extra sweetness in our drinks have been taken into consideration. Above all, freshness of ingredients and avoidance of artificial additives are what make java u stand out from other coffee outlets.'


Java U, the Canadian coffee franchise cum bistro and gift shop was launched at the Cascade Tower of Dubai Marina last Tuesday, Feb. 20. In attendance during the launch week were Mr.Nooruddin Mostafa, Director Mostafa bin Abdul Latif (MBAL) Group, Mr.Ian Thomson , Consul & Trade Commissioner of Canada, Mr.Graham Rush, Head of Consulate & Senior Trade Commissioner of Canada, Mr.Omran Mostafa,Managing Director - MBAL, Mr.Nizar Karim, Operations Manager of Java.u, Mr.Gary Hamady, Manager Retail - F&B.

Mostafa Bin Abdullatif Group, which holds the java u franchise for UAE and Bahrain, also plans to bring java u's flourishing catering business to the region, as part of the next phase of the partnership. The concept of opening Chez-u stores adjoining java u outlets will also be extended to other locations.
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Is java u only out east? have never seen or heard of the chain before...
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Plazacorp Announces Four New Developments


Plazacorp Retail Properties Ltd. announced today that it will develop four new retail properties. These new development projects are located in Miramichi, Shediac and Sussex, New Brunswick and Trois-Rivieres, Quebec.

In all, the Corporation will be investing approximately $12 million for its share in these new developments. These projects are 100% leased to national retailers will add approximately 60,000 square feet to Plazacorp's portfolio of retail properties.

"We are pleased to be able to continue to grow our portfolio by developing new projects. Once again Plazacorp has demonstrated its ability to source, lease, develop and finance new development properties. These new projects will further diversify our asset base and allow us to continue to deliver a reliable and growing dividend to our shareholders." said Plazacorp President and CEO Michael Zakuta.

Plazacorp Retail Properties Ltd. is an owner of shopping malls and strip plazas throughout Atlantic Canada, Quebec and Ontario. Plazacorp now owns interests in 77 properties comprising 4.2 million square feet of retail real estate. -- www.cnxmarketlink.com
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WILLIAM CONWAY/PROGRESS PHOTOGRAPHY

Construction has reached the roof of the Metropolis Retail and Entertainment Complex Phase 2 at Yonge and Dundas streets in Toronto. Construction manager PCL Constructors Canada Inc. began the 11-storey project in September 2005 and completion has been scheduled for December. The work includes a 24-screen theatre, retail, offices and the Canadian Music Hall of Fame. The Metropolis Complex was designed by Baldwin & Franklin Architects (base building) and Young and Wright Architects Inc. (AMC). Consultants are Halcrow Yolles (structural); ECE Group (mechanical/electrical-base building); and MCW Consultants Ltd. (mechanical/electrical-AMC). Subtrades include: Murray Demolition Corp.; Deep Foundations Contractors Inc. (shoring/caissons); Hardrock Forming Co. (formwork); Harris Rebar; Walters Inc. (structural steel); Innocon Inc. (concrete supply); Modern Niagara Toronto Inc. (mechanical); Plan Group (electrical); Paul & Douglas Automatic Sprinklers (fire protection); AGS Contract Glazing Ltd. (windows); Gage Metal Cladding Ltd. (metal deck); Modern Railing and Metalcraft Ltd. (misc. metals); Flynn Canada Inc. (roofing); Fujitec Canada Inc. (elevators); and Schindler Elevator Corp. (escalators).

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Planet Organic Markets Opens First Store in Ontario

EDMONTON, Feb. 20 /CNW/ - Planet Organic Health Corp. - (TSX Venture
Exchange - POH).
Planet Organic Market, Canada's largest natural foods retailer, today
announced the opening of the company's first Ontario store.
Planet's co-founder and VP of Marketing, Diane Shaskin, was on hand for
the opening, and she spent the day greeting customers, answering product
questions, and helping the staff. "Local customers have been waiting a long
time for this store to open. Their response has been very positive," said
Shaskin
The new Ontario store is located at Port Credit, in Mississauga, twenty
minutes west of Toronto. Like all Planet Organic Markets, the 14,000 square
foot store provides shoppers with organic groceries, all-natural supplements,
and 100% organic produce. The new store also features fresh deli food prepared
in the Planet Organic kitchen.
Shaskin says now that Port Credit store has opened they are concentrating
on securing other locations for Planet Organic Markets in the Greater Toronto
area. She says the company plans to add up to seven additional stores in the
GTA over the next two years.
Planet Organic Markets can be found in Calgary (two locations), Edmonton
(two locations), Victoria, Port Coquitlam, and Halifax.
"Good Food, Good for You, Good for the Earth" - that's been the company's
motto for the past 15 years. Planet Organic Markets sells only 100% certified
organic produce, all-natural groceries, a healthy deli selection, organic
meats, fair trade coffee and chocolates as well as all-natural supplements,
and personal-care products.
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PetSmart Inc. (PETM), a specialty pet retailer based in Phoenix, plans to acquire 19 Super Pet retail stores in 17 Eastern Canadian communities.
It said it reached an agreement in principle to acquire the assets of substantially all the retail business conducted under the Super Pet name, including the leases, inventory, property and intellectual property. Terms of the deal weren't disclosed.
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there are two 24 hour shoppers that i know of - one in the west end and one in surrey
also one at Kingsway @ Willingdon............and ya I can only think of those 3...........there must be another in the NE Sector or maybe in Langley or Abby...............anyone?
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WILLIAM CONWAY/PROGRESS PHOTOGRAPHY

Construction has reached the roof of the Metropolis Retail and Entertainment Complex Phase 2 at Yonge and Dundas streets in Toronto. Construction manager PCL Constructors Canada Inc. began the 11-storey project in September 2005 and completion has been scheduled for December. The work includes a 24-screen theatre, retail, offices and the Canadian Music Hall of Fame. The Metropolis Complex was designed by Baldwin & Franklin Architects (base building) and Young and Wright Architects Inc. (AMC). Consultants are Halcrow Yolles (structural); ECE Group (mechanical/electrical-base building); and MCW Consultants Ltd. (mechanical/electrical-AMC). Subtrades include: Murray Demolition Corp.; Deep Foundations Contractors Inc. (shoring/caissons); Hardrock Forming Co. (formwork); Harris Rebar; Walters Inc. (structural steel); Innocon Inc. (concrete supply); Modern Niagara Toronto Inc. (mechanical); Plan Group (electrical); Paul & Douglas Automatic Sprinklers (fire protection); AGS Contract Glazing Ltd. (windows); Gage Metal Cladding Ltd. (metal deck); Modern Railing and Metalcraft Ltd. (misc. metals); Flynn Canada Inc. (roofing); Fujitec Canada Inc. (elevators); and Schindler Elevator Corp. (escalators).

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thanks for the update I cant wait for this puppy to finish up!

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Most Dominion's/A&P and Sobey's are 24 hours, in fact, I think they all are. Very convenient indeed.
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Most Dominion's/A&P and Sobey's are 24 hours, in fact, I think they all are. Very convenient indeed.

WHY WHY WHY!!!!!! WE NEED THIS IN VANCOUVER
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where i live the only thing open is a gas station and than there are two 7-11's that are a good 5 minute drive away - it would take a good hour to walk there and back if one didn't have a car

the safeway at lougheed mall would make a great 24 hour store it would have no competition
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Yes, Aeropostale is what's been missing from Canadian teens' wardrobes to be cool...

From: http://www.globest.com/retail/news/1...t/22498-1.html
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Last updated: February 13, 2007 07:54am
NAPLES, FL—Canadian teenagers will soon be as hip as their US counterparts, as Aeropostale opens its first stores there this year, executives said at the 2007 Deutsche Bank Small Cap Conference, held at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel here.
Plans call for between 80 stores and 100 stores in Canada, said Thomas P. Johnson, EVP and COO of the New York City-based retailer. “We’re very proud and excited to be entering the Canadian market,” Johnson said. “We see it as a big opportunity for us.”

Expansion also will continue in the US. The company currently has 728 units, and the chain expects up to 1,000 stores nationwide. California, Texas and Florida still have a great deal of growth potential, Johnson said.

All new stores and remodels from the second quarter on will be in the chain’s new, sleeker format prototype reflecting its more fashion-forward merchandise orientation. Two stores, at Woodfield Mall outside Chicago and Coconut Point in Estero, FL, the latter opening this week, have the new format.
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Image consultant Daniela Mastragostino looks through Joe Fresh apparel at a Loblaws store in Toronto. The supermarket chain, which last month reported its first annual loss in 20 years, says the clothing line could grow to a $1 billion business within two years as it puts the brand in more stores.

Feb 22, 2007 04:30 AM
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Canada's largest food retailer is betting its future success lies partly in an unexpected direction – clothing.

Loblaw Cos. Ltd. said its Joe Fresh brand of apparel could be a $1 billion business within two years, as it begins adding more categories, such as kids and accessories, and putting the brand in more stores.

The beleaguered company also committed to cut prices, boost service and invest in product innovation in a bid to "Make Loblaw The Best Again," the title of a strategy session with analysts yesterday.

As expected, the company offered few quick fixes – such as selling off assets or buying back stock – that would instantly boost shareholder value.

Instead, new executive chair Galen G. Weston outlined a package of fixes that he said could boost profit by 10 per cent, sales by 5 per cent and free cash flow to $250 million within three to five years.

The troubled food retailer, which last month reported its first annual loss in 20 years, mainly due to one-time costs, outlined a detailed plan that would see it spend the next 12 months fixing its existing stores.

The company said it would stop building new superstores until the "economics of those new formats and new stores are proven." The decision doesn't affect stores already in the pipeline, such as the one scheduled to open in Milton in August.

Its first Real Canadian Superstores in Ontario have disappointed so far, though the company said it believes they can be turned around and that they are "the right platform for growth for this business," Weston said.

"It's slightly challenged in Ontario, and for 2007 we're going to make some changes to that format, test those changes and make sure that when we roll it out, with further capital and further square footage, it will be on the back of a formula that absolutely works."


The company operates 1,000 stores across Canada under various names, including Loblaws, No Frills, Fortinos and Maxi.

The company's plans for Maple Leaf Gardens remained vague, despite the fact the analyst meeting was held in the hockey shrine, at centre ice.

Beyond saying it would be "a great Canadian food store," the company offered no further details.

An official told the Toronto Star earlier the company could begin cleaning out the interior this summer, followed by 22 months of construction.

Weston, who took over the troubled company last fall, painted a stark picture of a business in disarray after two years of inner turmoil that was supposed to make Loblaws more competitive with non-traditional rivals. "We need to improve virtually every key driver of the business.

"We have not been focused on our core strength of being the best food retailer in Canada, our organization is too complex and is ineffective and slow to respond to the customer and to the competitive environment," Weston admitted.

"Our actual prices relative to Wal-Mart's are significantly higher than we thought," Weston said. One chart showed Loblaws prices were 20 per cent higher than Wal-Mart in some categories.

"We are not delivering the right value for money and we are not getting the credit with the customer for the investments that we do make," Weston said.

In some stores, staff were using pencil and paper to track inventory, analysts heard. Within the executive ranks, no one knew who had bottom line responsibility for store profits, they also heard.

Loblaw executives outlined a detailed action plan for making immediate improvements in all of its stores, including designating some stores as "learning centres" where new staff receive training, and creating store "clocks" that ensure goods get moved from the back door to the shelves on time.

Several analysts questioned the food retailer's continuing focus on non-food merchandise, the area that seemed to trip it up in the first place.

But Mark Foote, who joined Loblaw Cos. from Canadian Tire last year, said the company has lots of room to grow, especially in pharmacy, kitchen gadgets and clothing.

Loblaw executives said the Joe Fresh line of stylish but cheap apparel, which is carried in only 100 stores so far, is popular and profitable and will help get the company back on track.

At one point, Weston, the 34-year-old son of billionaire W. Galen Weston, made an impassioned speech that drew parallels with his father's track record at the firm and urged investors to be patient and have faith.

Weston Sr. took over the business in his early 30s and stayed for 40 years, a course the younger Weston said he intends to follow. Along the way, his father created a retailing powerhouse.

"I think the management team in place is the right one," said Don Povilaitis, an analyst with Standard & Poor's. "I think their strategy is very well thought out and measured and logical. But it will take time. This is not a quick fix.''

"The issues they identified were consistent with our concerns," said John Chamberlain of Dominion Bond Rating Services. ``The challenges will be executing and convincing customers. Fixing food is critical because I think consumers have lost confidence Loblaws will have the right products at the right price."
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Taco Del Mar is eastward bound, and fast.

The Seattle chain of Mexican-food restaurants has 235 stores reaching from Hawaii to Orlando, Fla. It plans to open another 100 by year's end stretching as far as Toronto and possibly Connecticut. And, in 2008, the company is looking to Australia and maybe India.

"The time is now," says Taco Del Mar President David Huether. "We need to take advantage of this market opportunity."

It's a niche that Chipotle, Qdoba and a handful of other chains are competing to fill — something called Mexican fast-casual that is a cut above Taco Bell but not full-service dining.

The average customer check at Taco Del Mar is $7.50, and it does a thriving lunch business that it hopes will lead to a strong dinner crowd. With that thought, the chain recently added platter options — two entrée choices like a taco and enchilada, plus rice, beans and condiments on a plastic plate rather than rolled in foil. The platters already account for more than 10 percent of sales companywide.

It also hired a new ad agency, Grey Advertising's Vancouver, B.C., office, whose first Taco Del Mar campaign launches in mid-March.

Executives decided in the summer of 2002 that Taco Del Mar needed to expand faster to cash in on the Mexican fast-casual bonanza. The company was a decade old then and had 52 stores, most in Seattle, but others in Montana, Alaska and as far south as Portland.

Its small group of 35 employees work at its South Lake Union headquarters and the chain's only company-owned restaurant on Queen Anne. Another 35 contractors known as "master developers" work closely with the company to spot new locations and find franchisees.

Taco Del Mar has a second restaurant concept called Slo Joe's Backyard BBQ that might eventually become available to franchisees. A test Slo Joe's location opened in South Lake Union two years ago, and a second one arrived on Mercer Island last year.

Some of Taco Del Mar's 26 owners have a stake in other restaurants as well.



John Schmidt, who co-founded Taco Del Mar with his brother, James, in 1992, opened the Southlake Grill near REI this month. He is also the principal investor in the Greenlake Bar & Grill and Eastlake Bar & Grill.

James Schmidt and Patrick Coyne are the principal investors in Paddy Coyne's Irish Pubs in South Lake Union and Tacoma.
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Feb 17, 2007 04:30 AM
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Air Force One 431 Richmond St., upper level

There is no gleaming signage, no billboard-sized posters of sports stars and there's no pounding music luring customers into the store.

In fact, to find Toronto's newest "high concept" store tucked away on the second floor of a nondescript building, you have to know where you're going. Even as you climb the dark and dingy stairwell, you may still not be sure you're in the right place.

Remarkably this is a Nike store, the "Just Do It" retailer not particularly known for quiet understatement. It's the only one of its kind in Canada and it's dedicated to selling only one kind of Nike shoe – the iconic Air Force 1.

To mark the 25th anniversary of this basketball shoe this year, Nike teamed up with the über-cool sneaker shop Goodfoot, located on the ground level of the same building, to staff and operate this temporary "pop up" shop.

That's right – temporary. Despite the serious money that Nike pumped into the space to transform it into a studio-like environment with expensive polished wood and sparkling glass cases that display the shoes in a manner more museum than street-wear shop, the store will, according to plan, close in a few months. It only opened in January.

This guerrilla retail concept – setting up shop in a temporary location for a limited time – is not new. The Paris avant-garde fashion label Comme des Garçons pioneered this method of retailing in cities around the world. But their modus operandi was simple and involved very little overhead: Organizers would just roll racks of clothing into a sparse space for a few months, sell as much as possible and move on.

Now behemoth retailers seem to be catching on to these temporary arrangements. When New York designers Proenza Schouler collaborated with the Target store chain for a limited edition cheap-and chic-collection, Target selected a cool Soho store, Opening Ceremony, to sell only this special collection during New York Fashion Week.

As temporary as these arrangements seem, they still require considerable thought.

Partnering with Goodfoot in this venture was based on Nike's longstanding relationship with the store, says Nike spokesperson Jane Shaw.

"They are one of the premium sneaker destinations in Canada," she says. "They are sneaker connoisseurs."

Goodfoot, with just three stores across Canada, has quietly cultivated a following amongst sneaks freaks as the go-to place for limited editions, re-issues and hard-to-find stock.

The admiration flows both ways between the David and Goliath companies. "Nike shoes are titles of hip-hop songs," says Ace Russell, one of the buyers for Goodfoot. "You can't buy that kind of cool."

But what is it about the AF1 that separates it from the pantheon of styles that the global powerhouse sells?

"It has tremendous staying power – to transcend generational gaps since 1982, to be embraced by sport, street, hip-hop culture and still be relevant today is incredible," says Russell.

When the high-top leather shoe with the ankle strap came out in 1982, it was hailed as revolutionary. Nike designer Bruce Kilgore was charged with coming up with solutions for a better performing basketball shoe. His shoe design with an ankle strap, concentric circle outsole and an air-packed insole immediately won over professional players but also garnered fans in the hip-hop community, which helped make it into an icon.

The store will also stock exclusive special editions commemorating the AF1 silver anniversary, from a brown croc leather with 14k gold lace tips and dog tag to a pristine white anaconda version. Both sell for $3,000.

But even if you got the original old-school version that starts at $140, you'll still show that you've got game.
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In the early ’90s, the hope was that revenues from retail spaces at subway stops could help pay for and maintain not-yet-built routes

mall dreams | Hong Kong is doing it big-time. Other cities are following suit. So why isn't the TTC using retail to bail itself out?
Feb 04, 2007 04:30 AM
Andrew Chung
It's one stop from the end of the line, and the subway station North York Centre kind of feels that way, too. After emerging from the platform, the rider arrives at a concourse that's been boarded up on each side, as if condemned.

Behind the boarding there were meant to be stores, all kinds of stores, to serve both riders and non-riders – you don't have to pay a fare to access the mall – and benefit both businesses and the Toronto Transit Commission.

But the TTC says there simply weren't enough passengers to make a go of it. Meanwhile, just outside the subway doors, Loblaws, Future Shop and myriad other establishments have sprung up in a separate glassy cathedral of shopping. With none of the money going to the TTC.

It's not much different elsewhere along the system. Few stations have retail components, and the ones that exist seem stranded: a newsstand or coffee shack is typical.

Why does it matter? Because, critics say, the eternally cash-strapped TTC, which faces at least a $100-million budget shortfall for each of the next five years, could be doing much more in the way of generating its own revenue to potentially avoid fare increases. There have been two in the past two years, for a total hike of 50 cents per adult ticket, to $2.75. "To not benefit from obtaining revenues that would subsidize your ticket prices sounds extremely short-sighted," says Richard Talbot, an international retail marketing consultant based in Markham.

"Every time they need more money, they just put fares up or ask the taxpayer for more. It's a totally non-entrepreneurial, revenue-driven model."

The TTC makes just over $8 million in rent from its retail components. Given its $1.1-billion annual budget, however, that rent is the equivalent of a housefly on the side of an elephant. Reduce fares it will not.

Around the world, mass transit systems are learning, as airports have done, that public dollars are finite, and that it's essential to find other ways to generate revenue. TTC general secretary Vince Rodo, who's in charge of the budget, understands this. Subways are terribly expensive, and so "you really have to do all these things to defray costs," he notes.

The new TTC chair, councillor Adam Giambrone, agrees. "We should be having more retail," he says. But Giambrone adds that transit retail is surprisingly hard to get right. "What I've learned is that the issues around this are not simple, and in some cases to get the retail it's very expensive."

For instance, he says, putting a Tim Hortons in a station without retail might require the installation of water facilities at a cost that far outweighs the value of a lease. Bathurst station is another example. There are empty retail spots that no one wants, because business people don't think they'd be profitable.

Rodo points out that many TTC stations are already adjacent to major shopping areas, such as the Eaton Centre in downtown Toronto. And while that retail provides no revenue to the TTC, he says the heavy traffic benefits transit and the city "largely in terms of riders and taxes."

Other cities, however, are moving toward integrating retail into their stations. Increasingly for transit systems from Tokyo to Shanghai to Bangkok to London, stores mean cash.

In London, an $800-million project will begin this summer to renovate the Cannon St. tube station, expanding retail on the concourse and underground levels, and topping it with an eight-storey office building.

Nowhere has the retail mindset been more successfully realized than in Hong Kong. Not only is retail central to this towering city's transit system, the MTR, but the system itself is also a major property developer.

It's not uncommon for MTR stations to have full-service banks, convenience stores, travel agents, medical clinics, dry cleaners, fast food outlets, coffee shops and the ubiquitous Maxim's bakeries.

The numbers compared to Toronto are telling. Even though the MTR has only 53 stations to the TTC's 69, station commercial rents brought in nearly $52 million in 2005 – nearly seven times more than in Toronto. The tally for last year is expected to be higher.

Yearly ridership in Hong Kong is about twice that of Toronto's subway, and the MTR makes about 30 per cent more than the TTC in fares. But when it comes to non-fare revenue, which includes station commercial rent as well as advertising, it's in a different league entirely. In 2005, the most recent year for which comparative data is available, non-fare revenue for the TTC was $46.7 million. For the MTR? It was $234 million, about 400 per cent more.

The TTC has had some modest success with a few stations – such as Eglinton, which counts nine stores inside the pay area of the complex, including a Second Cup, a Cinnabon, a bookstore and a place that sells purses.

Much of the Commission's attitude toward retail is coloured by experiences at sites like North York Centre and a belief that, in certain circumstances, the private sector is better suited for the job. "We don't take risks like the private sector does," says Charles Wheeler, the TTC's former manager of property development, who oversaw the building of the Sheppard line and is now in charge of doing the same for the Spadina subway extension.

"Could we do it better?" he asks. "Probably. But is there a huge amount of retail that we don't currently do? I don't think that's the case."



Some people believe the Sheppard line represents a wasted opportunity for the TTC to bring in a lot of extra cash. Back in 1990, when provincial money for the line seemed nowhere to be found, then-North York mayor Mel Lastman wondered if the private sector could find a way to help pay the costs.


A consortium of private interests stepped forward with a plan to chip in 25 per cent of the construction costs. At the same time, a plan was devised to build the new stops not as stations per se, but marketplaces.

"Our recommendation was to use the traffic flows through the subway station to generate retail revenues and develop essentially a strip mall all around," says retail consultant Talbot, who was tapped by the consortium to research the retail viability. "Over time the revenues could keep pace with inflation and traffic flows and the general demand of the area." Talbot's 148-page report looked at traffic volumes and potential revenues. It also proposed a distinct station design: accessible at all corners of the intersection, built as an atrium with a first level for drop-offs and car parking, and a deeper retail concourse centred around a subway entrance.

The retail would include conveniences such as a photo shop or grocery store to serve busy commuters, but also "destination" places – even a cinema – to attract non-passengers. The report pegged annual rental revenue in all the line's stations at $30 million. The model, Talbot thought, was viable since Toronto was already getting a taste for underground shopping with its downtown PATH system.

But before the subway doors could chime, the plan was dead. The TTC and Metro government delivered a resounding no to the consortium's proposal. "The concept was rejected as being financially unworkable," TTC executive Wheeler recalls.

For one thing, he explains, the consortium "wanted to be able to collect the property taxes to help pay for the Sheppard subway, which was not acceptable to Metro. But on the retail leasing side ... we didn't feel their numbers were even remotely obtainable."

If North York Centre station wasn't getting enough people to make retail work, "how can you do it on Bayview?" Wheeler says, referring to one of the stations on the Sheppard line, which today connects Yonge St. to Don Mills with five stops.

However, Talbot calls it "mind-boggling" that the TTC didn't try to "create value" at the stations.

For the Sheppard stations that went on to be built, a familiar maxim has become reality: the stores weren't built, and the customers didn't come. A few shops thrive at Don Mills station, to be sure. But take a look at the Leslie station's expansive mezzanine between the platform and the street. You'll find that even the sole, lonely newsstand has closed down.

Perhaps the thinking is best summed up by Al Leach, a former cabinet member in the government of Mike Harris and before that, the head of the TTC. "Nobody's going to spend a lot of time at Leslie and Sheppard," he says in an interview from Florida. "It's a commuting area, not a shopping area."

Leach doesn't buy the argument that subways could follow the path of airports and integrate retail wholeheartedly into their premises, thereby reducing – or at least stabilizing – passenger fares, just as airports reduced landing fees, and theoretically creating a pleasant space for riders.

"Airports are a different ball game," Leach contends. "You've got hundreds of thousands of people there. They're captive for hours and have all kinds of time to wander around and spend money. You're not in a subway station for more than 10 minutes!"

The question is, would that be the case if the station were built as a "destination" marketplace, as the private consortium envisioned it?



The TTC has come up with another potential way to make money. It recently announced that it's looking into selling off properties around subway stations, such as a parking lot at York Mills and the old bus terminal at Eglinton.


Apart from getting cash from the deals themselves, the TTC says that new developments – whether office or residential – would build up neighbourhoods around stations, adding riders and revenue. But it doesn't appear that developing these sites itself is in the cards for the TTC.

It's possible that the system could sell or lease the land above ground but retain ownership of the below-grade portion. But Wheeler says the developer would want control over the ground floor, and so the TTC would likely "give them the surface rights."

Why couldn't the TTC build and lease out its own retail on the ground floor? "Developers want that retail-leasing revenue. You might drive away development if you do that."

Wheeler argues that the TTC would still get substantial revenues because the retail potential would be reflected in either the land sale price or leasing payments. "But the private sector is in a better position to lease out to the Staples or Business Depots than the TTC is."

Hong Kong's MTR takes the opposite view. That system – which is run as a corporation and is traded on Hong Kong's stock exchange – is a major residential and commercial property developer and manager, both above existing stations and along new line extensions. Apartment dwellers stand a good chance their monthly payments will eventually make it back to the transit system.

Among the MTR's assets are six major malls – including one built to resemble ocean waves – housing hundreds of stores and services. In 2005 alone, the MTR's property rental and management revenue reached $200 million and its property development profit was a stunning $928 million.

The TTC's next expansion is expected to be into Vaughan, with six potential new stations on the horizon, including student-rich York University. Which retail path will the TTC choose?

All Giambrone will say is, "We'll be looking at having increased retail." He wants to assure riders who've grown tired of fare hikes that this hasn't escaped officials' minds. He cites a $30-million renovation this year at Victoria Park station, the design of which will increase retail possibilities. "But this doesn't mean we can't do more. And we're trying."
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