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Old Posted Mar 26, 2009, 9:20 PM
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Fuente: http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
- Nombre oficial: -
- Dirección: Av. Javier Prado Oeste 1995 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 48m (tanque de agua=3.5m)
- Pisos: 15 (primer piso es mas alto)
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential

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Fotos: GIS san isidro (foto izq) / Lia (ssc) (foto med) / Lucuma (ssc) (2 fotos der)
Fuente: http://orion-gerenciayconstruccion.com/nacional.html
http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
- Nombre oficial: Edificio La Ensenada
- Dirección: Av. Dos de Mayo 1860 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 49m (tanque de agua=4m)
- Pisos: 16 (se ve 1 piso escondido)
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential

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Fotos: GIS san isidro (foto izq) / adoos.com.pe (foto sup der) / Tvecar_Ica (ssc) (2 foto inf der)
Fuente: http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
- Nombre oficial: Edificio San Remo
- Dirección: av. Dos de Mayo 1766 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 44m (tanque de agua=2m)
- Pisos: 15 (se ve 1 piso escondido)
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential

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Fuente: http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
- Nombre oficial: Edificio Brasilian
- Dirección: Calle Carlos Porras Osores 233 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 45m (tanque de agua =2.5m) (el edificio tiene 2 tanques de agua, estoy considerando el de la derecha pues el piso 15 esta en el mismo nivel del otro tanque de la izquierda)
- Pisos: 15 (se ve 1 piso secreto en el tanque de agua de la derecha)
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential

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Fotos: GIS san isidro (foto izq) / Lucuma (ssc) (2 fotos der)
Fuente: http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
- Nombre oficial: -
- Dirección: av. Dos de Mayo 1695 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Roof: 42m (est) (no tiene tanque de agua)
- Pisos: 15
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential

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Old Posted Mar 26, 2009, 9:25 PM
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- Nombre oficial: -
- Dirección: av. Dos de Mayo 1675 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 49m (tanque de agua=1.5m)
- Pisos: 17
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential

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- Nombre oficial: -
- Dirección: av. Javier Prado Oeste 1561 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 41m (tanque de agua=2m)
- Pisos: 14 (se ve 1 piso escondido)
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential

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Fuente: http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
- Nombre oficial: Edificio Los Laureles
- Dirección: av. Javier Prado Oeste 1501 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 47m (tanque de agua=2m)
- Pisos: 16 (se ve 1 piso escondido)
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential

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Fotos: GIS san isidro (foto izq) / catalogo edf peruanos (ssc) (foto med) / Lucuma (ssc) (2 fotos der)
Fuente: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=260596&page=2
http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
- Nombre oficial: -
- Dirección: av. Jorge Basadre Grohmann 1385 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 52m (tanque de agua=4.5m)
- Pisos: 17
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential

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Fuente: http://www.amag.edu.pe/web/html/orga...ganizacion.htm
- Nombre oficial: Academia de la Magistratura
- Dirección: jr. Camana 669 – Cercado
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 45m (caja de ascensores=3m)
- Pisos: 14
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: office
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2009, 6:40 PM
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Stonemax:
Javier Prado Oeste 1995 http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83127
Edificio La Ensenada http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83128
Edificio San Remo http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83129
Edificio Brasilian http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83130
Dos de Mayo 1695 http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83132

Dos de Mayo 1675 http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83133
Javier Prado Oeste 1561 http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83134
Edificio Los Laureles http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83135
Jorge Basadre Grohmann 1385 http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83136
Academia de la Magistratura http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83137
(Pero con estatura estimada en 50m, ya que los niveles inferiores se ven bastante mas altos)

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Old Posted Apr 2, 2009, 9:59 PM
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10 peticiones mas

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- Nombre oficial: -
- Dirección: Calle Las Flores 255 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 43m (tanque de agua=4m)
- Pisos: 14 (se ve 1 piso escondido)
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential
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Fuente: http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...t=260596page=2
- Nombre oficial: -
- Dirección: Calle Jose Granda 280 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 61m (tanque de agua=5m)
- Pisos: 20
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential
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Fotos: GIS san isidro (foto izq) / flickr (foto med) / Lucuma (ssc) (foto der)
Fuente: http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=260596&page=4
- Nombre oficial: -
- Dirección: Calle Los Castaños 560 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 44m (tanque de agua=4m)
- Pisos: 14 (primer piso es mas alto)
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential
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Fotos: GIS san isidro (foto izq) / Jblock (ssc) (foto med) / Filter (ssc) (foto sup der) / Lucuma (ssc) (foto inf der)
Fuente: http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=260596&page=3
- Nombre oficial: -
- Dirección: Av. Javier Prado Oeste 1445 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 47m (tanque de agua=4m)
- Pisos: 15
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential

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Fotos: GIS san isidro (foto izq) / flickr (foto med) / Lucuma (ssc) (2 fotos der)
Fuente: http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
- Nombre oficial: -
- Dirección: Calle Los Nogales 362 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 44m (tanque de agua=2m)
- Pisos: 15 (se ve 1 piso escondido)
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential
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Old Posted Apr 2, 2009, 10:04 PM
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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=260596&page=3
- Nombre oficial: -
- Dirección: Av. Dos de Mayo 961 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 51m (tanque de agua=3m)
- Pisos: 17 (se ve 1 piso escondido)
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential
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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=260596&page=3
- Nombre oficial: -
- Dirección: Av. Javier Prado Oeste 1004 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 51m (tanque de agua=3m)
- Pisos: 17 (se ve 1 piso secreto)
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential
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Fotos: GIS san Isidro (foto izq) / TveCar_Ica (ssc) (foto der)
Fuente: http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=260596&page=3
- Nombre oficial: Concepto Aqua San Isidro
- Dirección: Av. Javier Prado Oeste 1070 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
-Finished: 2009
- Spire: 48m (tanque de agua=3m)
- Pisos: 16
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential

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Fuente: http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
- Nombre oficial: Edificio Los Alpes
- Dirección: Av. Dos de Mayo 298 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Spire: 40m (tanque de agua=3m)
- Pisos: 13
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: residential
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Fotos: GIS san isidro (foto izq) / Friendlima (ssc) (foto sup der) / Lucuma (ssc) (foto inf der)
Fuente: http://www.munisanisidro.gob.pe/OPRWeb/gis/frmgis.aspx
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=260596&page=3
- Nombre oficial: Edificio Alimar
- Dirección: Av. Arenales cda. 26 esq. con Av. Dos de Mayo - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
Status: Built
- Roof: 42m (no tiene tanque de agua)
- Pisos: 15
Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: office (funcionan oficinas del poder judicial, solo los 6 primeros pisos estan en uso)

gracias.
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Old Posted Apr 4, 2009, 9:55 AM
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2009, 8:47 AM
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Hei Martin Unzon,

Why you delete the entry Jeddah fountain?
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83235

when you made 2 offshores without permission and other editors made also small towers. Why you delete the entry without consult me? Should i delete yours randomly also?

I am very upset about you doing that.

You complained about other structures, but you recently added 2 offshores for Eduardo, and made in past as well.

What that really means?
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2009, 9:56 AM
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Hei Martin Unzon,

Why you delete the entry Jeddah fountain?
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=83235

when you made 2 offshores without permission and other editors made also small towers. Why you delete the entry without consult me? Should i delete yours randomly also?

I am very upset about you doing that.

You complained about other structures, but you recently added 2 offshores for Eduardo, and made in past as well.

What that really means?
Point by point...

1st I receive a direct request from a forumer-illustrator to delete this particular entry and he expose me their motives.

2nd I agree with that request because the water rising is not a structure, is not a building, has no a fixed structure, fountains shouldn't be in our database except those who had tall structures.

3rd Always I erase this kind of elements no matter who puts it on database, is not a matter of personal attack against nobody.

4th Offshore structures are allowed since the creation of the site by Dylan, he puts the first offshore structure on database I just incorporate the most recent tallest (In this case deepest), Eduardo request and drawings is a correct element into our database as the other offshore structures previously included by Dylan.

5th You edit and modificate a lot of entries made by me without consulting me, why do you think I shouldn't doing the same?.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2009, 11:02 AM
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Point by point...

1st I receive a direct request from a forumer-illustrator to delete this particular entry and he expose me their motives.

2nd I agree with that request because the water rising is not a structure, is not a building, has no a fixed structure, fountains shouldn't be in our database except those who had tall structures.

3rd Always I erase this kind of elements no matter who puts it on database, is not a matter of personal attack against nobody.

4th Offshore structures are allowed since the creation of the site by Dylan, he puts the first offshore structure on database I just incorporate the most recent tallest (In this case deepest), Eduardo request and drawings is a correct element into our database as the other offshore structures previously included by Dylan.

5th You edit and modificate a lot of entries made by me without consulting me, why do you think I shouldn't doing the same?.
1. From whom you received the request? why he/she don't consult me first?
2. If in database had already other fountain like the one in Geneva since 2005 and accorded by Dylan, owner the site, why not the tallest one? The other one also does not have the tallest structure, it is only water from a jet and it is still in database for such long time.
3. But you should consult me first, before deleting it.
4. Offshores structures are not allowed since the statement of Tony recently. This is already in discussion, you know that.
5. I edit and modificate entries you put, not deleting any information, just organizing it in the standards from me proposed to Dylan and accorded by the administrators. But i never deleted a entry from yours before. Better, i never deleted a entry from someone inserted in database. I just organized all them equally keeping and also adding interesting facts that deserve and lacked. So i never made a stupid delete from no one. Deleting is upset.
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2009, 8:17 PM
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1. From whom you received the request? why he/she don't consult me first?
2. If in database had already other fountain like the one in Geneva since 2005 and accorded by Dylan, owner the site, why not the tallest one? The other one also does not have the tallest structure, it is only water from a jet and it is still in database for such long time.
3. But you should consult me first, before deleting it.
4. Offshores structures are not allowed since the statement of Tony recently. This is already in discussion, you know that.
5. I edit and modificate entries you put, not deleting any information, just organizing it in the standards from me proposed to Dylan and accorded by the administrators. But i never deleted a entry from yours before. Better, i never deleted a entry from someone inserted in database. I just organized all them equally keeping and also adding interesting facts that deserve and lacked. So i never made a stupid delete from no one. Deleting is upset.
1. Forumers/illustratos not require to consulting you directly because they don't take decisions about the contents, they could suggest to any editor those kind of changes and any editor (including me) could take those decisions.
2. That fountain was created on database by THEc and that don't means necessarily that was in accordance with Dylan, I know as good as you who is the owner, THEc it isn't, neither you or me, no matter how old is that entry on our database, is not a structure, sholdn't be on database.
3. Did you consult me about the change of heights of Ifizia Tower?, did you consult me about the inclusion of "Bicentenary towers".
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=80872 http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=80873
If you don't need to consult with me those kind of contents, why I must to consult you some?, If you think that I must consult you, you should consult me first, before create those kind of contents.
4. Tony puts the limitation of contents for the absurd intention of inclusion of thousands of windturbines on database and you know that because you attempt to do it.
5. I don't make a stupid deletion as you think, I delete a not suitable element for database, in your words a stupid entry.
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1. Forumers/illustratos not require to consulting you directly because they don't take decisions about the contents, they could suggest to any editor those kind of changes and any editor (including me) could take those decisions.
2. That fountain was created on database by THEc and that don't means necessarily that was in accordance with Dylan, I know as good as you who is the owner, THEc it isn't, neither you or me, no matter how old is that entry on our database, is not a structure, sholdn't be on database.
3. Did you consult me about the change of heights of Ifizia Tower?, did you consult me about the inclusion of "Bicentenary towers".
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=80872 http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=80873
If you don't need to consult with me those kind of contents, why I must to consult you some?, If you think that I must consult you, you should consult me first, before create those kind of contents.
4. Tony puts the limitation of contents for the absurd intention of inclusion of thousands of windturbines on database and you know that because you attempt to do it by yourself.
5. I don't make a stupid deletion as you think, I delete a not suitable element for database, in your words a stupid entry. .
I will not discuss with you anymore, you are always too impulsive. We have to construct the database, not destruct, deleting is destructing, but never mind, it is already made.
1. anyway moderator had deleted as well, so nothing to say.
2. The Geneva fountain was created in a time before edition history. Tim only made a correction after that, that is old of course. But once there, it is ok to be kept, cause does not disturb anyone.
3. Ifizia Tower has a height of too much estimated, 161m for 33 floors is really too much, the best according the renderings would be such of 120m. It is exagerated as it is. The Bicentenary tower if i remember well, it was a request in general requests from a general forumer that as you own said 'any editor could make in same level these decisions'. And it was good edited from me, with quality according the info the guy gave. But adding an reorganizing information is not a problem, people do in the entries i do as well, you know that. The site is flexible on that. But delete is worse, because it is hard to get back.
4. The windturbines is not because of me, this problem came between Tim and requests of Alpha, not because of me, i just defended that every tall structure enough is allowable to be there, as you did also in past.
5. I continue to think deletion is bad, because it is destruction work. Editing only is not, it is just improving something.
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I will not discuss with you anymore, you are always too impulsive. We have to construct the database, not destruct, deleting is destructing, but never mind, it is already made.
1. anyway moderator had deleted as well, so nothing to say.
2. The Geneva fountain was created in a time before edition history. Tim only made a correction after that, that is old of course. But once there, it is ok to be kept, cause does not disturb anyone.
3. Ifizia Tower has a height of too much estimated, 161m for 33 floors is really too much, the best according the renderings would be such of 120m. It is exagerated as it is. The Bicentenary tower if i remember well, it was a request in general requests from a general forumer that as you own said 'any editor could make in same level these decisions'. And it was good edited from me, with quality according the info the guy gave. But adding an reorganizing information is not a problem, people do in the entries i do as well, you know that. The site is flexible on that. But delete is worse, because it is hard to get back.
4. The windturbines is not because of me, this problem came between Tim and requests of Alpha, not because of me, i just defended that every tall structure enough is allowable to be there, as you did also in past.
5. I continue to think deletion is bad, because it is destruction work. Editing only is not, it is just improving something.
Please, do not insist any more with the topic... If you know that these structures are polemic then why you did not consult him it first to the administrators if the incorporation of a drawing is or isn't correct for the above mentioned fountain. Remember that M-A-R-K, Tony and John Hinds became aware it in your thread when you exposed this intention.
I'm the that asked expressly Martin to eliminate all the fountains (one week ago eliminated one fountain to my request).
You know that sometimes the deletion is necessary to improve the quality of information that exists in the web...
In addition, I'm a witness that the editions that you do are very arbitrary, for example, you did not respect the criterion of estimated heights that I requested in the 15 buildings for Lima (does remember?) you don't know any more than others (experienced on the topic) know of his own cities, took me months to investigate the heights estimated of these buildings in order that you (very calmly) impose your will.
I'm not spiteful, this isn't my personality, only I ask you not to generate any more controversy and "consult" before emitting judgments as well as you demand that we consult to him first... this is not a revenge either, only I want it remains clear that this is for the well-being of the database, to which I aspire to contribute in the best possible way, together with the editors.

PD.: Sorry for my english.

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In addition, I'm a witness that the editions that you do are very arbitrary, for example, you did not respect the criterion of estimated heights that I requested in the 15 buildings for Lima (does remember?) you don't know any more than others (experienced on the topic) know of his own cities, took me months to investigate the heights estimated of these buildings in order that you (very calmly) impose your will.
I'm not spiteful, this isn't my personality, only I ask you not to generate any more controversy and "consult" before emitting judgments as well as you demand that we consult to him first... this is not a revenge either, only I want it remains clear that this is for the well-being of the database, to which I aspire to contribute in the best possible way, together with the editors.

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Dannyhighrise, i will only respond you that part. I only did the 15 buildings you requested, because you asked me per PM to do, due the fact you were impatient for including the diagrams, and said that here the guy will not have time to do, otherwise i will not do, cause i am not doing most of requests in general requests, since the on-hold of Tony, regarding highrises or not, because those highrises are too common, which has billions equal in world. I did only cause you asked me and i wanted to help you soon, but in future i will not do your requests anymore if you prefer, just wait. And believe me, other few editors could be even worse. I am one of the few remaining active there daily, remember that; someone who try to help with high-quality, i am not perfect also, cause nobody is, i am not God. I did not do arbitrary, of course not, but comparing other buildings in database the heights are going to be too discrepant for Latin America, sometimes is given too much, sometimes too less, and i put in question because a moderator in past (i will not give the name to not make more confusion) took me attention to put in doubt the informations given, in other to show that editor is working and thinking, because In past i did all the requests with the same of good quality of today including exactly all the info the requester, without data changed, but this moderator said that this is wrong, that i should put something in doubt with source and etc. It is why i entered your estimated heights a little bit more, according the buildings spread here already entered in comparison, so please make your comments in correct base. Without knowing the history in general requests, try to understand the past first, a time you were not here, because you are new in SSP. For me it is ok doing exactly how the reqeuster put, because i believe that own experiences the person who lives in local knows and research good as well, and i followed that exact the same, respecting the knowledge each reqeuster around the world in person for example, that are good info, not everytime in net. But this was took me attention from moderator, that said i was doing wrong. Since then i tried to put in question something, that you are complaining now. We editors of general requests can put or change the info according our experiences also, trying to follow sources or info found in web. But i personally think when somebody do a request, he/she researched a lot before to be accurate as possible with info found and personal experiences also. Unfortunatly i have to changed to keep my account, sorry. They, other old editors, did also for Brazil and Germany in past, increasing too much the heights, just to give some places example, in past with lot of errors, even more huge and discrepant, you know that, that i had to correct. Once the request is in general request, each editor there have the point to decide and change something according what he/she thinks is more appropriate, it is how here works since long time. I requested also in past, and all my info were changed in arbitrary way from others, making me nervous, when in most of time i was correct. It was then that i noticed that info or data numbers of the requester should be put exactly like he/she requested, but... higher members here was not happy, even this my action was correct, cleaning the requests area daily very fast and good. You should know editor can not know all the world and little missunderstandings will always happen. It is really very complicated... I live with those doubts everytime in my mind, i am one that cares a lot for quality here, respecting the members and requesters, i just had to change my attitude cause others, administrators, and committee wanted.... to be done. Otherwise i would continue to be like i was... not given space to such complains.

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Old Posted Apr 10, 2009, 9:12 AM
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For years, a lot of people (not only editors) participate here to have a good and reliable database of skyscrapers and tall estructures, this is not only for you MK and your so-impulsive way to view every as a personal attack. Fountains are not structures, are not skyscrapers, they are not suitable for the database, for your knowledge: previously and always I delete from the database: Trees, Geisers, mountains, fountains, Cinema cartoons (King Kong, Godzilla), Extinct species, personal homes, uncle's homes, gradfather's homes, insignificant lowrises, etc. created by every kind of editors, may you like it or not, may be liked for some editors or not, but I work a lot to have a serious and respectable website, I never will accept when somebody makes a funny toy all this work.

Just for your knowledge:

Efizia tower is the new version of the cancelled Torre Arena Project, we (Mx forumers and I) had references from the original approved pre-construction drawings (official info) of the old project, the new development (Efizia) is quite similar except for the improvements on facades, for the new project we had no pre-construction drawings yet (just renders) and for that the heights was shown as "estimate", those heights was not precisely an estimation, as we know they should be quite similar (161 meters) because the changes on the project goes not so far (as long as we know).

Editors or anybody not involved on Mx database don't knows that history, and the database don't includes a chapter or window to put those anotations for future editor's work.

Finally...
I don't need, or have to, explain or request for permission from another editor on any entry I made because I had the same kind of authority to do it, only members of the senior commitee or the aproval commitee could do it.

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Martin, I have the same problem as well, it is my own same concern, we are doing constructive a good database, but we know it needs a lot of adjustments to be perfect here. I am just against delete, without a very very good reason. It is not also all of my mind that i can explain and show also in the bldg cards. Really improvements are not updated, i don't know if it is problems because of time or other reason, that runs here behind. But we know other strange 'buildings' continue to be here, even the ones of 1 pixel height. So this flexibility of past is ending today and we really do not have directions imo, to know what exact to do to improve the database.

I am working here very seriously and with high-quality to try to have a reliable database for everyone.

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Well, we have a coincidence!
You put a lot of hours of your work as I do and many others, we couldn't accept when that work is converted to a funny toy, thank you for understand my point of view. Please delete those 1pixel entries you found, they make your hard work and mine hillarious.
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I'm the that asked expressly Martin to eliminate all the fountains (one week ago eliminated one fountain to my request).
Sorry, I wrote badly
I only warned of the existence of the above mentioned fountains, but I neither demanded nor ordered, it only corresponds to the administrators of SSP

Mk, now I understand that your intentions were good and not arbitrary. Since now must know in whom can trust the moment to give information

Finished chapter, and as I say, we give turned to the page...
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Thanks for the compreehension. I appreciate a lot. The fountain i was really in doubt before adding for a requester. It only could be different as it is for sure not an appropriate hard structure to be called skyscraper or building. Anyway it made already too many desnecessaries complications for me and others. But nevermind, for me this page is turned also. It is finisehd.. cause i am tired also. I am doing something different now, took a look at Rio de Janeiro again, saw interesting highrises empty there. Let's do something else and continue the good job here from yours.
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Por ahora sólo 4 peticiones:

Render: http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...toMirador1.jpg
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/j...toMirador2.jpg

Fuente oficial: http://www.casaideal.com.pe/

- Nombre oficial: Edificio Alto Mirador
- Dirección: Av. Brasil 1400 esq. Pedro Morales Bermudez - Pueblo Libre
- Ciudad: Lima

Status: Construction
- Finished: 2009

Altura aprox:
- Spire: 61 m (tanque de agua = 5 m)
- Pisos: 20
- Sótanos: 2
- Ascensores: 2

Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: Residential
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Render: http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7...rrebolivar.jpg

Fuente oficial: http://dominiigrupoinmobiliario.com/

- Nombre oficial: Torre Bolivar
- Dirección: Av. Bolivar 416 - Pueblo Libre
- Ciudad: Lima

Status: Proposed
- Finished: 2010

Altura aprox:
- Spire: 68 m (se aprecia un tanque de agua aprox de 3.5 m en el plano pegado en la caseta de ventas)
- Pisos: 23
- Sótanos: 1
- Departamentos: 64
- Ascensores: 3

Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: Residential
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Render: http://www.interhouse.com.pe/images/ginza/ginza.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2923/sdc10319.jpg
Foto: Dannyhighrise

Fuente oficial: www.interhouse.com.pe

- Nombre oficial: Residencial Ginza
- Dirección: Av. La Mar 2009 - Pueblo Libre
- Ciudad: Lima

Status: Construction
- Started: 2009 (Enero)
- Finished: 2009 (Diciembre)

Altura:
- Spire: 58 m (tanque de agua = 5 m)
- Pisos: 19
- Sótanos: 2
- Departamentos: 36
- Ascensores: 2

Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: Residential
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Render: http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2234/77864822.png

Fuente oficial: http://www.pragmaarquitectos.com.pe/index01.html (sección commercial buildings)
Fuente alterna: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=712132&page=6

- Nombre oficial: Edificio América
- Dirección: Calle Amador Merino Reyna cuadra 3 - San Isidro
- Ciudad: Lima
- Arquitecto: Pragma Arquitectos

Status: Construction
- Finished: 2009

Altura aprox:
- Spire: 60 m (cuarto de máquinas = 4 m)
- Pisos: 15

Area total construida: 11717.84 m2

Tipo de estructura: Highrise
Uso: Office
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