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Old Posted Sep 3, 2014, 3:39 PM
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More transit and more people living in core neighborhoods will increase non-car modal share to Downtown.
I'd say emphasis is put on the latter.

Most of the routes PAT cut during the period it was hemorrhaging were simply not sustainable. They had low ridership, and often slow, meandering routes that few people besides the low income and/or carless really wanted to utilize. The main commuter routes, in contrast, have all survived, and in some cases been strengthened.

If we want less car usage in Pittsburgh, the answer is TOD and general densification of areas which either have good transit or are within walking distance of Downtown or Oakland. This is already pretty much happening, especially in the East End.

There are perhaps places we could string new transit lines. I'm a fan of the AVRR line idea if they ever get the financing, for example. I'm more meh about the idea of a North Hills T line, however, because the North Hills lacks dense concentrations of population which would be well-served by such a line, which would necessitate many park and rides. It's a big investment of money if the end result is merely displacing parking out of downtown, with limited upside for new development.

Still, it's important to remember that regarding transit, the layout of Pittsburgh is actually a plus. Our crazy topography means that while the suburban population sprawled out, it's clumped in ways you don't see in say flat Midwestern metros. Thus it's relatively easy (providing you can get the land) to create a new transit line which would serve a relatively high population base compared to many cities.
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Old Posted Sep 3, 2014, 5:31 PM
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A self-appointed local group that favors the Foundations' bid for the AWC has released their vision for rebooting the cultural program:

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/ci...s/201409030193
http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburg....html?page=all
http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/6...-august-wilson

The funny thing is, none of their cultural programming suggestions actually seem to require that the Foundations rather than 980 end up owning the building. To the extent there is an argument at all, it appears to be that the Foundations may be promising to help fund the cultural program if they get to own the building, but are (perhaps) suggesting they will refuse to support the cultural program if they don't get to own the building. But if that is the threat, they are not making it explicit (which in fact would probably make a lot of people mad).
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Old Posted Sep 3, 2014, 5:36 PM
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Yeah, adding a bike line is nice and all but its just a couple blocks long and wont do shit for increasing bike traffic. I bike downtown almost everyday and I just dont see how adding a bike line to the Cultural District is going to make biking more accessible or whatever.
It is a start on a overall vision. As I am sure you are aware, there are various bike trails that either terminate at the edge of Downtown, or run along the rivers at below grade from Downtown, with many more in various stages of planning.

For bike-commuting Downtown to be easy and attractive for a lot more people, you will need safe, efficient bike infrastructure that actually extends into and through Downtown from the major bike routes leading to Downtown, allowing bike-commuters to get close to their place of work before parking their bike. Conversely, if you keep it the Wild West for bike-commuters once they try to actually get into Downtown, it will sharply cap the possible appeal of bike-commuting.
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Old Posted Sep 3, 2014, 5:46 PM
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Still, it's important to remember that regarding transit, the layout of Pittsburgh is actually a plus. Our crazy topography means that while the suburban population sprawled out, it's clumped in ways you don't see in say flat Midwestern metros. Thus it's relatively easy (providing you can get the land) to create a new transit line which would serve a relatively high population base compared to many cities.
I'd say it has pluses and minuses. You are right about being able to tie into existing denser development patterns, particularly along the river valleys or plateau tops. But you are also faced with somewhat limited TOD potential in many areas, the routes are necessarily less direct and slower, and to the extent you would need new bridges or tunnels, that dramatically increases the expense of a new transit line.

I don't want to get off on my favorite rant, but that is part of why we could get a lot of benefit from adopting aerial gondolas as a transit technology--they could provide cheap, reliable, quick feeder access to main line stations from adjacent areas regardless of intervening topography, thereby effectively increasing the catchment and TOD potential of stations in challenging areas. And close enough to major nodes (including Downtown and Oakland), you could use them for direct service that would otherwise be cost-prohibitive.
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Old Posted Sep 3, 2014, 7:38 PM
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Yeah, adding a bike line is nice and all but its just a couple blocks long and wont do shit for increasing bike traffic. I bike downtown almost everyday and I just dont see how adding a bike line to the Cultural District is going to make biking more accessible or whatever.
more on the bike front...

http://www.post-gazette.com/news/tra...s/201409030280

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Rich Fitzgerald announces new bike lanes on Pittsburgh bridges

September 3, 2014 2:38 PM

By Kaitlynn Riely / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Bike lanes are coming to three county-owned bridges in Pittsburgh, Allegheny County Executive Rich Fitzgerald announced at a Downtown news conference this afternoon.

The Andy Warhol, or Seventh Street Bridge, will soon boast one bike lane going from Downtown to the North Side and vice versa in honor of the start of the Pro Walk/Pro Bike Conference that runs from Monday through Thursday at the David L. Lawrence Convention Center.

Construction of the lanes is set to begin after morning rush hour Thursday and should be completed by Friday. The lanes will be temporary, and will be removed after Sept. 13.

But two other bridges will see the addition of permanent lanes, Mr. Fitzgerald said.

The Roberto Clemente, or Sixth Street Bridge, will have two bike lanes by the end of October. And the Philip Murray, or South 10th Street Bridge, will also be getting bike lanes in the future.

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The bike lane on Penn downtown is a huge development.

Will make the sidewalk atmosphere/experience that much better and serve as a very visible statement for future connections to it.


On Pittsburgh's transit system... it sucks. The ridership numbers are not informative regarding the quality of service nor the effectiveness of the system. The T is like riding on the kiddie train at Kennywood and the buses... no need to get into what already been said over and over on here.
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Old Posted Sep 3, 2014, 8:19 PM
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more on the bike front...
Awesome. A robust bike network can come together very quickly if all the relevant politicians are pulling in the same direction, because the actual costs are extremely low as transportation infrastructure goes, and can often just be an add-on feature to other planned road work.
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Old Posted Sep 4, 2014, 2:19 AM
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Yay for bike lanes!!

I just bought a new bike from Bicycle Heaven on Labor Day. :3
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Old Posted Sep 4, 2014, 2:34 PM
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A self-appointed local group that favors the Foundations' bid for the AWC has released their vision for rebooting the cultural program:

http://www.post-gazette.com/local/ci...s/201409030193
http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburg....html?page=all
http://triblive.com/news/adminpage/6...-august-wilson

The funny thing is, none of their cultural programming suggestions actually seem to require that the Foundations rather than 980 end up owning the building. To the extent there is an argument at all, it appears to be that the Foundations may be promising to help fund the cultural program if they get to own the building, but are (perhaps) suggesting they will refuse to support the cultural program if they don't get to own the building. But if that is the threat, they are not making it explicit (which in fact would probably make a lot of people mad).
I read the interim report last night and had the same thought: These changes could be implemented under any ownership structure. Not to mention that the bulk of this interim report deals with programming, which was never the primary problem at AWC. The report seems to suggest that a more ambitious, more varied programming would generate more revenue. But it could well result in higher expenses.

Regardless which proposal prevails, the long-term financial viability of the AWC will remain iffy. Neither proposal specifically address this issue, but it is not 980's obligation to address the Center's future. Those partners have offered more than anyone could have expected.

Have any design concepts for the hotel been discussed or mentioned locally? For example, would the entrance to the hotel be on Liberty or William Penn Place? And would the hotel lobby be on street level or in the newly-constructed addition? I ask the latter question because Oliphant had implied that the lobby and hotel service areas would take over a lot of the existing building. Seems to me that many of those functions could be contained in the new construction, with only a street-level entrance necessary.
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Old Posted Sep 4, 2014, 4:54 PM
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Have any design concepts for the hotel been discussed or mentioned locally? For example, would the entrance to the hotel be on Liberty or William Penn Place? And would the hotel lobby be on street level or in the newly-constructed addition? I ask the latter question because Oliphant had implied that the lobby and hotel service areas would take over a lot of the existing building. Seems to me that many of those functions could be contained in the new construction, with only a street-level entrance necessary.
To my knowledge, there have been no detailed design concepts released to the public. I'd guess that is deliberate--any details would just be fodder for opponents.

The most detailed descriptions I have seen were in Shollar's opinion piece:

http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/...s/201408190030

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Rather than “gut” or “shove” the August Wilson Center cultural facilities, our plan offers more accessibility without reducing program space and leaves it available to the public at no charge. The center would not be in the “hotel lobby” as insinuated, but in a large, separate and defined space.
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As to suggestions that 980 plans to “deface” the building and “erase” the center’s presence and signature elements, let me clarify: There are no exterior pillars of any kind and, rather than relegating the symbolic sail to a “footnote,” we have allocated significant funds to enhance the sail, build a new center marquee entrance and install the exterior digital signage that was part of the architect’s original design but was omitted due to cost overruns.

Our plans call for an elegant, restrained tower that complements the existing structure, using under 50 percent of the available zoning allowance.
Just a guess, but I suspect the hotel entrance and lobby is going to be down toward the Liberty/Smithfield corner, maybe two stories. For reference, here are the floor plans:





If you look at Shollar's statements that programming space won't be reduced, the Center will be in a separate, defined space, and it will get the original (enhanced) marquee entrance, it seems to me the spaces marked 1-7 and 11-13 are probably being allocated to the Center, probably with at least some of 16 as well. But 8-10 and 14-15 seem up for grabs as not really programming space, and you could use all that for a nice, separated, hotel lobby. That would imply the tower would be sort of back toward the Chamber of Commerce building, maybe extending over to William Penn, which would in turn achieve Shollar's stated goal of keeping the tower restrained in relation to the signature sail feature.

Of course all this is subject to engineering feasibility, but something along those lines seems to fit the opinion piece quite well.
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Old Posted Sep 4, 2014, 5:05 PM
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Checking in on the Tiny House project, they are actually modifying the house plan to make it quite a bit bigger and also to work better given their chosen site plan:

http://www.citylabpgh.org/9005/

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The original Minim is twenty-two and a half feet long by eleven feet wide. We’re going to stretch ours a little bit (to maximize the space we have on our site) to a HUMONGOUS twenty-eight foot long by twelve feet wide. Our total square footage will be 336 square feet versus the 247.5 square feet of the original. . . . We’re going to be making some changes to the original plan for a number of reasons. First, the increased size and the orientation of the house on the site will require some changes. And second, we heard some requests at our brainstorming sessions which we are going to heed. Changes will include:

• a deck
• french doors leading out onto the deck
• a window on the office platform, facing the street
• a pantry next to the kitchen, for added storage
• a washer/dryer
• a full range instead of a recreational vehicle model
• a separate shower in the bathroom
• a through the wall mini-split heating and cooling system
All that seems smart to me. I think you want this to feel like a viable alternative to a nice studio apartment, but with your own outdoor space. These changes seem to accomplish that, although it will be interesting to see the final cost of the project.
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It appears that the first phase of housing construction started in Larimer today. Multiple blocks at and near the intersection of Larimer Ave and Meadow St are fenced off.
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There's not much information here, but I try to keep tabs on the "Riverfront Projects" portion of Riverlife's website, and I noticed a new "future" project called "Riverlife Lighting Plan."

http://www.riverlifetaskforce.org/trp/

Again, not much here, but a few renderings are included, and this project wasn't listed on the site when I last visited earlier this week.
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This is a bit of an aside, but I realized today with recent construction completed, there are now arguably seven grocery stores within Greater East Liberty: Market District, the Shakespere Giant Eagle, Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, Aldi, the new Bottom Dollar in Garfield, and perhaps Target, due to its rather large grocery section.

This is truly remarkable when you consider that the entire North Side of Pittsburgh has only one grocery store. Or that over half of all grocery stores in the city between the Allegheny and the Mon are in Greater East Liberty.
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This is a bit of an aside, but I realized today with recent construction completed, there are now arguably seven grocery stores within Greater East Liberty: Market District, the Shakespere Giant Eagle, Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, Aldi, the new Bottom Dollar in Garfield, and perhaps Target, due to its rather large grocery section.

This is truly remarkable when you consider that the entire North Side of Pittsburgh has only one grocery store. Or that over half of all grocery stores in the city between the Allegheny and the Mon are in Greater East Liberty.
Kuhn's - Marshall-Shadeland
Giant Eagle - Deutschtown
Giant Eagle - Brighton Heights
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Old Posted Sep 5, 2014, 5:29 AM
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Or that over half of all grocery stores in the city between the Allegheny and the Mon are in Greater East Liberty.
Greater East Liberty has always been uniquely well-suited (within the East End) to serve as more than just a neighborhood-level retail district, between the relatively large parcels of flatish land, web of arterial roads, Busway stops (formerly train stations), generally strategic location, and so on.

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Old Posted Sep 5, 2014, 10:43 AM
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Kuhn's - Marshall-Shadeland
Giant Eagle - Deutschtown
Giant Eagle - Brighton Heights
Giant Eagle in "Brighton Heights" is just across the city line in Bellevue. Admittedly I did not know about the Kuhn's in Brightwood however. So that makes two.

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The Forbes Ave health building redevelopment site in Oakland is now up to 389 apartments + the hotel, parking garage and more. That's a lot of units.

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Old Posted Sep 5, 2014, 11:26 AM
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Kuhn's - Marshall-Shadeland
Giant Eagle - Deutschtown
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I go to the dirty bird. It's not bad like I had heard. Pretty standard quality and cleanliness, IMO.
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The Forbes Ave health building redevelopment site in Oakland is now up to 389 apartments + the hotel, parking garage and more. That's a lot of units.
Cool. Although I know the Oakland office market is extremely tight, I have a mild preference for seeing new office tenants go into places like Greater East Liberty or the Strip, or in the future the Lower Hill site, because I think there is a lot of long term benefit in those areas developing as well-balanced, walkable work-live-shop-play neighborhoods. Conversely I think the more apartments in the Oakland-Uptown-Downtown corridor the better, because that helps leverage the already well-established jobs centers in Downtown and Oakland, and perhaps eventually will add ridership to the proposed BRT corridor, more bike commuters (the BRT project would likely include bike lanes tying into the Downtown network we have been discussing), and so on.
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