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Old Posted Feb 1, 2019, 7:52 PM
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Not a big fan of that massing. I think the two taller tower sections should be taller than shorter sections. Looks too bulky right now.
I can already imagine standing in the middle of that courtyard, looking up, and seeing four massive towers. If the Caltrain tracks are eventually built over with several even taller buildings, this really could be a new dense city core for the 2020s & 30s.
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This reminds me somehow of the Atari logo!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2019, 2:30 PM
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No standalone thread here on the Avery?: https://sf.curbed.com/2018/7/2/17528108/avery-highrise-condos-east-cut-sale-luxury-housing http://theaverysf.com/residences Pegged to be 618 ft tall and looks very nice. Seems like there should be one.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2019, 4:21 PM
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No standalone thread here on the Avery?: https://sf.curbed.com/2018/7/2/17528108/avery-highrise-condos-east-cut-sale-luxury-housing http://theaverysf.com/residences Pegged to be 618 ft tall and looks very nice. Seems like there should be one.
Here it is.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2019, 7:01 PM
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some of the changes coming about in the Second Street Improvement Project are becoming visible around the Mission-to-Howard section...
Love the updates. I desperately wish this project would move way faster.
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2019, 8:11 PM
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Wish they'd build something on that southeast corner lot at Howard & 2nd.
my understanding has been that that parcel is sort of in limbo, since the downtown rail extension is to curve to the NE off Second underneath that corner, precluding or complicating building there. in addition to at least a couple across Howard, I think we stand to lose one or two of the buildings to its south as well (which I will be sad about). this is a vague recollection from reading through a document years ago - if anyone has more concrete info, please share?
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2019, 8:16 PM
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work was active on the parcel just to the north of the newish children's park at 17th and Folsom when I was by there today



which I assume is this

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socketsite did their blurb on this
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2019, 12:18 AM
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Not a big fan of that massing. I think the two taller tower sections should be taller than shorter sections. Looks too bulky right now.
agree that something about this one looks awkward to me, and maybe thinning the top would help. I feel like I want to like it, but don't.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2019, 2:11 AM
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No standalone thread here on the Avery?: https://sf.curbed.com/2018/7/2/17528108/avery-highrise-condos-east-cut-sale-luxury-housing http://theaverysf.com/residences Pegged to be 618 ft tall and looks very nice. Seems like there should be one.
Have you got $41 million?

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A full-floor Transbay penthouse that's 600 feet above San Francisco is hitting the market — and it's sky-high in both ambition and price. The 8,482-square foot residence, from developer Related California, could set a new record for the most expensive home sold in the city. It's priced at $41 million . . . .

. . . the penthouse includes four bedrooms, six spa-inspired bathrooms, a library, gym, formal living and dining rooms and more. There's also a rare 1,580-square foot private rooftop deck that could be customized with a fire pit, garden and yoga deck. Other amenities, such as a bar and secondary kitchen, sauna, walk-in pantry and large cooking island, complete the interior.

The sculpted glass tower, known as The Avery, sits just blocks from the currently shuttered Salesforce Transit Center in the downtown Transbay district sprouting with new skyscrapers.
Then, for your viewing pleasure:


Source both: https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco...penthouse-avery-transbay.html#g/449141/2
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2019, 2:14 AM
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this spot will be a homeless magnet
Yeah, it would be but on further search, I think one of the modifications in the latest design is to replace the covered but open entrance court with flat storefronts.
     
     
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Have you got $41 million?



Then, for your viewing pleasure:


Source both: https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco...penthouse-avery-transbay.html#g/449141/2
A bit shy of that...yes, this photo was in my links. This penthouse is definitely stunning. Shouldn't this have a standalone thread? It's a significant project.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2019, 5:20 AM
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A bit shy of that...yes, this photo was in my links. This penthouse is definitely stunning. Shouldn't this have a standalone thread? It's a significant project.
homebucket already replied with the link to the standalone thread in post 9526 above
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 4, 2019, 11:10 AM
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homebucket already replied with the link to the standalone thread in post 9526 above
Ah, thanks. Now I see it. I had missed it.
     
     
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A site was launched for Salesforce Tower top floor tours for the public: https://salesforcetowertours.com

Every slot is now unavailable unfortunately.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2019, 2:43 AM
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^^I knew the Avery was going to be the tallest of the Folsom group but not by that much. Makes me think our illustrious planners should have let 500 Folsom go higher.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 6, 2019, 5:06 PM
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I thought 500 Folsom would be taller too
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 10, 2019, 7:11 AM
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Nice overview of some stalled projects like 325 Fremont:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/arti...w-condo-projects-by-Chinese-13602784.php
     
     
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Nice overview of some stalled projects like 325 Fremont:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/arti...w-condo-projects-by-Chinese-13602784.php
I think this is behind a firewall for non-subscribers. I'll summarize as best I can:

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Suits, overruns slow condo projects by Chinese developers in SF
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J.K. Dineen Feb. 9, 2019 Updated: Feb. 9, 2019 5:19 p.m.



555 Fulton St., a 139-unit condo building in Hayes Valley, has been under construction for almost five years, three times longer than it would normally take to build four stories of condos above retail.

During that time Z&L has run afoul of city planners, neighbors and elected officials. Dozens of buyers who had signed up for units walked away, as did its anchor retail tenant, grocer New Seasons of Oregon. Dozens of complaints about the project have been filed with the city’s Department of Building Inspection, most of them alleging that the developer regularly started construction work as early as 5:15 a.m. — well before the city’s legal start time of 7 a.m.

Much of the delay was caused by the developer redesigning the building’s exterior, without city permission, after it had been approved. The builder was forced to go back to the approved — and more expensive — glass exterior, which caused more than a year of delays.

. . . the project is “finalizing construction” and the developer hopes to get its temporary certificate of occupancy by the end of March, “weather permitting” . . . . (However, Sup. Vallie) Brown said the developer should not get its temporary certificate of occupancy until a lease has been signed for an affordable grocery store . . . . Hayes Valley Neighborhood Association President Gail Baugh also said the city should not give the developer a temporary certificate of occupancy if there is no deal with a grocer . . . .

Not far from 555 Fulton St. is another another Z&L-owned site: 1554 Market St., just west of Van Ness Avenue. There Z&L excavated a foundation in September 2017, only to abruptly halt construction because, the company now says, costs came in $10 million over earlier estimates.

“The project unfortunately became economically unfeasible, and no lender would fund it,” said Buckner, who added that the group is in talks with a new contractor that “has come in with a more reasonable construction budget” . . . .

Construction costs in San Francisco have more than doubled in five years — the average cost of building a new home in San Francisco is now more than $700,000, and it is even higher for high-rise buildings like the 325 Fremont St. project, which is approved for 118 condominiums in 25 stories. While the building permit for that project was obtained in September 2017, it doesn’t work economically now and there is no timetable to start construction, Buckner said.

“The majority of the Chinese developers have been challenged in that they are taking whatever customs and methods they have in China and bringing them over here,” she said. “That’s been our biggest challenge: getting them to understand that business is done differently in S.F. and the USA. The ways of doing business in China don’t work here. It’s been a big learning curve, especially if they decide to be their own general contractor” . . . .
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/arti...w-condo-projects-by-Chinese-13602784.php
     
     
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Nice (well not nice but you know what I mean) to finally get confirmation that 1554 Market is indeed stalled...I see it from my window and there has been literally no progress on it for what feels like a year now. Was wondering what would happen to it. I really want to see it built but was assuming it was stalled/shelved due to lack of work.
     
     
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