St Boniface Area | Winnipeg | Development

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

The City should be planting trees in the boulevard/sidewalk. Not shitty bushes that will die in the crack along the building front.

Throughout the entire City. We've been through this with the recent road re-construction projects. Re-building roads to a 1950 concrete only standard. Too many lanes, o pedestrian/cycling, no trees.

Some areas look like complete shit because the roads are trash. When they get replaced, it actually makes the entire area look better. Plant some damn trees.

This is such an obvious move to make it a requirement, it makes one scratch their head as to why that isn't the case. I wonder if it has more to do with trees being more of a municipal responsibility? But that doesn't mean they shouldn't be required of developments too.

[Jeff]

the city just filled in all the hold-over tree wells within a block of the intersection of st. mary's and marion as part of their ongoing maintenance to the roads in the area. not a new tree in sight!

[peg]

Originally Posted by Jeff

the city just filled in all the hold-over tree wells within a block of the intersection of st. mary's and marion as part of their ongoing maintenance to the roads in the area. not a new tree in sight!

That's ridiculous. I am going to be emailing my city counsellor. The lack of new street trees, in general, is concerning.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by Jeff

the city just filled in all the hold-over tree wells within a block of the intersection of st. mary's and marion as part of their ongoing maintenance to the roads in the area. not a new tree in sight!

dumb eh

[Jeff]

and most of the tree wells had healthy ash trees in them until the city idiotically decided to slash them all due to concerns over the emerald ash borer taking hold.. meanwhile the ones they left are all still healthy and flourishing. I wrote Matt Allard an email as well! the "barren-ification" of the city's main routes is getting out of hand.

[wags_in_the_peg]

i find lots of trees on major roads dead and sickly looking

[wags_in_the_peg]

I'm all for more trees on residential areas

[thebasketballgeek]

Vue Tache update (780 Tache Ave)

[plrh]

The sewer, water, lakes and roads for the "Public Markets" development will be built this summer. This is the old Canada Packers site. The whole thing will be built in one shot. It is out for tender right now.

https://olexadevelopments.com/subdiv...ultation-2020/

[bomberjet]

Going to be a lot of car haulers coming in and out of that residential area.

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Going to be a lot of car haulers coming in and out of that residential area.

Maybe they'll move it to Centreport.

[bomberjet]

CP has been talking about building their own autoport somewhere else. CN is going nowhere apparently. They just spent some money on repaving half the lot and are looking at expanding. CN does about 90% of the business there, CP only about 10% from what I've heard.

Unless somebody pays them outright to move.

[esquire]

Where are the autoports? The one in St. Boniface is CN? Where is CP's?

[bomberjet]

They are both the same. On the packers land. CP owns part of it, CN owns part of it. It used to be a private company who owned the big lot and operated the facility. CN purchased them a few years back. So I think the only thing CP owns is part of the track.

The Paddington interchange yard is owned by CP I believe. And CN comes in as required.

[Only The Lonely..]

I am glad that the former Canada Packers site is being redeveloped.

But, it looks like half of it is surface parking.

Surely, land that is within earshot of Portage & Main could be put to better use.

I think that there is a very interesting opportunity here to create something unique that fits well with the pedestrian scale of old St.B.

We should be deliberate as a community, treating this urban infill like the Forks.

What I see in this diagram is another Kenaston Common five minutes from downtown.

[thebasketballgeek]

Yea I gotta agree this is quite a mediocre design. Currently they plan to build 1200 units with a density of 63 units/hectare in the commercial and residential portion of the site. It’s not horrible density, but it’s not good enough. In an inner-city neighborhood they need to add 700 units at least to get to that 100 units/hectare benchmark to ensure a vibrant streetscape. They could easily fit 700 more units just to fill the gaps on Marion in the plan.

Also, this Euclidean zoning bs of separating commercial and residential is poor design idk why developers are so hard-pressed to build actual mixed-use.

[trueviking]

that's brutal.

[T'Cona]

Definitely could be an amazing development...why must there be such a lack of vision here?

[plrh]

I find it amazing that they are developing 180 acres by building 2 roads. I guess that speaks to the style of the development. The residential really looks like it was originally to be industrial and then housing prices went up so they simply changed the colour on the map in response.

Seymour Pacific will do well here.

[esquire]

This happens any time there is a large parcel of land on the market to be developed. It always ends up being wasted with the usual low density, meandering roads, huge parking lots crap. This is why I am not in favour of railyard relocation, it would end up being the same thing but on an even bigger scale.

There is a strong inverse correlation between overall development quality and land parcel size, at least in this city. The bigger the site, generally speaking, the worse the project will be.