The US Census Bureau thread - Page 47

wwmiv · #**921** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 5:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by dimondpark

Detroit.

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Detroit’s population plunged 25% in the past decade to 713,777, the lowest level since 1910, four years before Henry Ford offered $5 a day to autoworkers, sparking a boom that quadrupled Detroit’s size in the first half of the 20th Century.

Census figures released to the Free Press -- by a government source who asked not be identified because the data has not been released publicly -- show the city lost 238,270 — on average, one resident every 22 minutes between 2001 and 2010.

http://www.freep.com/article/2011032...est-since-1910

If this is true, I will go ahead and say my "I told you so" to everyone who told me I was wrong when I said Austin would be larger than Detroit.

unusualfire · #**922** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 5:53 PM**

I'm thinking some census workers refuse to go into some area's of certain cities.

dimondpark · #**923** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 5:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by wwmiv

If this is true, I will go ahead and say my "I told you so" to everyone who told me I was wrong when I said Austin would be larger than Detroit.

Not so fast...I think a lawsuit is in the works. And I hope Detroit goes for it.

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Anticipating a census undercount, the Detroit Economic Growth Corp. released its own estimate of Detroit's population Wednesday -- 850,259 -- basing the number on market research conducted by the nonprofit group Social Compact.

Although it is lower than previous U.S. census estimates that pegged the city's population at more than 900,000, the estimate is expected to be higher than the count the census will release by April 1. Demographers have suggested that the census will estimate the city's population at closer to 800,000.

The Social Compact study, known by its trade name DrillDown, also found that Detroiters spend an estimated $1.5 billion each year outside the city, or about 30% of city residents' total retail buying power.

http://www.freep.com/article/2011022...lation-850-259

Thundertubs · #**924** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 5:56 PM**

Rough numbers for Detroit, but I hope the Boston number is correct.

wwmiv · #**925** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 5:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Thundertubs

Rough #'s for Detroit, But I hope the Boston # is correct.

I caught the "not productive" before you changed it!

I know, I know. It was a petty remark. I don't think that a lawsuit is going to change the results too much, either. I still think that Austin will end up larger than Detroit at the end of this.

dimondpark · #**926** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 6:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by unusualfire

I'm thinking some census workers refuse to go into some area's of certain cities.

I know someone from East Oakland who sent in his questionnaire on time, then he got a second questionnaire so he sent it again, then he got a letter saying they havent heard back yet so they were sending someone over and no one ever showed up. Then he got another questionnaire which he filled out and then got another letter saying they havent recieved it.

VivaLFuego · #**927** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 6:02 PM**

^ And Austin occupies over 250 square miles, far greater than Detroit's 140.

fleonzo · #**928** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 6:19 PM**

Does anyone know what the rumors are for NYC's population numbers and/or NYC Metro Area (MSA/CSA)????

Thanks!

ChiSoxRox · #**929** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 6:23 PM**

Massachusetts

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Data for Massachusetts show that the five most populous cities or towns and their 2010 Census counts are Boston, 617,594; Worcester, 181,045; Springfield, 153,060; Lowell, 106,519; and Cambridge, 105,162. Boston grew by 4.8 percent since the 2000 Census. Worcester grew by 4.9 percent, Springfield grew by 0.6 percent, Lowell grew by 1.3 percent, and Cambridge grew by 3.8 percent.

The largest county is Middlesex, with a population of 1,503,085. Its population grew by 2.6 percent since 2000. The other counties in the top five include Worcester, with a population of 798,552 (increase of 6.3 percent); Essex, 743,159 (increase of 2.7 percent); Suffolk, 722,023 (increase of 4.7 percent); and Norfolk, 670,850 (increase of 3.2 percent).

Michigan

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Data for Michigan show that the five most populous incorporated places and their 2010 Census counts are Detroit, 713,777; Grand Rapids, 188,040; Warren, 134,056; Sterling Heights, 129,699; and Lansing, 114,297. Detroit decreased by 25.0 percent since the 2000 Census. Grand Rapids decreased by 4.9 percent, Warren decreased by 3.0 percent, Sterling Heights grew by 4.2 percent, and Lansing decreased by 4.1 percent.

The largest county is Wayne, with a population of 1,820,584. Its population decreased by 11.7 percent since 2000. The other counties in the top five include Oakland, with a population of 1,202,362 (increase of 0.7 percent); Macomb, 840,978 (increase of 6.7 percent); Kent, 602,622 (increase of 4.9 percent); and Genesee, 425,790 (decrease of 2.4 percent).

New Hampshire

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Data for New Hampshire show that the five most populous cities or towns and their 2010 Census counts are Manchester, 109,565; Nashua, 86,494; Concord, 42,695; Derry, 33,109; and Dover, 29,987. Manchester grew by 2.4 percent since the 2000 Census. Nashua decreased by 0.1 percent, Concord grew by 4.9 percent, Derry decreased by 2.7 percent, and Dover grew by 11.5 percent.

The largest county is Hillsborough, with a population of 400,721. Its population grew by 5.2 percent since 2000. The other counties in the top five include Rockingham, with a population of 295,223 (increase of 6.4 percent); Merrimack, 146,445 (increase of 7.5 percent); Strafford, 123,143 (increase of 9.7 percent); and Grafton, 89,118 (increase of 9.0 percent).

Thundertubs · #**930** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 6:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by wwmiv

I caught the "not productive" before you changed it!

I know, I know. It was a petty remark. I don't think that a lawsuit is going to change the results too much, either. I still think that Austin will end up larger than Detroit at the end of this.

Someone posted between mine and yours before I posted. The tone of your comment seemed like the beginning of an Austin-Detroit flamewar to me. This is an informative thread, and I hope it stays civil and on track. Good for Austin, but don't kick The D while it's down.

ChiMIchael · #**931** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 6:32 PM**

Detroit got anal raped!!! But it's not that surprising see how badly the rest of the rust belt fared.

wwmiv · #**932** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 6:37 PM**

Los Angeles 12 828 837 +
Chicago 9 461 105 +
Dallas/Forth Worth 6 371 773 +
Philadelphia 5 965 343 +
Houston 5 946 820 +
Miami 5 564 635 +
Atlanta 5 290 078 +
Boston 4 552 402 +
San Francisco 4 335 391 +
Detroit 4 296 250 -
Riverside 4 224 851 +
Phoenix 4 192 887 +
Seattle 3 439 809 +
Minneapolis 3 279 833 +
San Diego 3 095 313 +
Tampa 2 783 243 +
St. Louis 2 754 717 +
Baltimore 2 710 489 +
Denver 2 543 482 +
Pittsburgh 2 356 285 -
Portland 2 226 009 +
Sacramento 2 149 127 +
San Antonio 2 136 508 +
Orlando 2 134 411 +
Cincinnati 2 130 151 +
Cleveland 2 077 240 -
Kansas City 2 035 334 +
Las Vegas 1 951 269 +
San Jose 1 836 911 +
Columbus 1 836 536 +
Indianapolis 1 765 241 +
Austin 1 716 289 +
Hampton Roads 1 671 683 +
Nashville 1 589 934 +
Milwaukee 1 555 908 +
Jacksonville 1 345 596 +
Memphis 1 316 100 +
Louisville 1 283 566 +
Richmond 1 258 251 +
Oklahoma City 1 252 987 +
Hartford 1 212 381 +
New Orleans 1 167 764 -
Raleigh 1 130 490 +
Birmingham 1 128 047 +
Salt Lake City 1 124 197 +

lawfin · #**933** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 7:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dralcoffin

Michigan

It will be interesting to see if the demographic exodus in Detroit mirrored the one in Chicago

mind field · #**934** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 7:15 PM**

It's great that Boston gained so much population when the city limits are so small and Dallas gained, but not as much and has much larger city limits. truly surprising.

SPonteK · #**935** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 8:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by dimondpark

Not so fast...I think a lawsuit is in the works. And I hope Detroit goes for it.

I wouldn't put too much faith in the Drilldown numbers. They had KC at 530K and chalked it up to an undercount of 100K in KC's urban core...

The census counts, if nothing else, are pretty uniform in the tale they tell about the urban Midwest. Even in places like StL, KC and Cleveland (which all have significant corridors or swaths of densification, gentrification and repopulation) there has been a net loss.

dave8721 · #**936** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 8:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by chingon

I wouldn't put too much faith in the Drilldown numbers. They had KC at 530K and chalked it up to an undercount of 100K in KC's urban core...

The census counts, if nothing else, are pretty uniform in the tale they tell about the urban Midwest. Even in places like StL, KC and Cleveland (which all have significant corridors or swaths of densification, gentrification and repopulation) there has been a net loss.

Drilldown put Miami at 39% above the Census estimates but Miami ended up coming in at 10% below the Census estimates....

ChiSoxRox · #**937** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 8:57 PM**

Los Angeles city, CA: 3,792,621 (+97,801)
Chicago city, IL: 2,695,598 (-200,418)
Houston city, TX: 2,099,451 (+145,820)
Philadelphia city, PA: 1,526,006 (+8,456)
Phoenix city, AZ: 1,445,632 (+124,587)
San Antonio city, TX: 1,327,407 (+182,761)
San Diego city, CA: 1,307,402 (+84,002)
Dallas city, TX: 1,197,816 (+9,236)
San Jose city, CA: 945,942 (+50,999)
Indianapolis city, IN: 829,718 (+37,792)
Jacksonville city, FL: 821,784 (+86,167)
San Francisco city, CA: 805,235 (+28,502)
Austin city, TX: 790,390 (+133,828)
Columbus city, OH: 787,033 (+75,563)
Fort Worth city, TX: 741,206 (+206,512)
Louisville city, KY: 741,096 (+484,865)
Charlotte city, NC: 731,424 (+190,596)
Detroit city, MI: 713,777 (-237,493)
El Paso city, TX: 649,121 (+85,459)
Memphis city, TN: 646,889 (-3,211)
Nashville city, TN: 626,681 (+56,790)
Baltimore city, MD: 620,961 (-30,193)
Boston city, MA: 617,594 (+28,453)
Seattle city, WA: 608,660 (+45,286)
Washington D.C.: 601,723 (+29,664)
Denver city, CO: 600,158 (+45,522)
Milwaukee city, WI: 594,833 (-2,141)
Portland city, OR: 583,776 (+54,655)
Las Vegas city, NV: 583,756 (+105,322)
Oklahoma City city, OK: 579,999 (+73,867)
Albuquerque city, NM: 545,852 (+97,247)
Tucson city, AZ: 520,116 (+33,417)
Fresno city, CA: 494,665 (+67,013)
Sacramento city, CA: 466,488 (+59,470)
Long Beach city, CA: 462,257 (+735)
Kansas City city, MO: 459,787 (+18,242)
Mesa city, AZ: 439,041 (+42,666)
Virginia Beach city, VA: 437,994 (+12,737)
Atlanta city, GA:: 420,003 (+3,529)
Colorado Springs city, CO: 416,427 (+55,537)
Omaha city, NE: 408,958 (+18,951)
Raleigh city, NC: 403,892 (+127,799)
Miami city, FL: 399,457 (+36,987)
Cleveland city, OH: 396,815 (-81,588)
Tulsa city, OK: 391,906 (-1,143)
Oakland city, CA: 390,724 (-8,760)
Honolulu CDP (incl. East Honolulu) 387,170 (+15,513)
Minneapolis city, MN: 382,578 (-40)
Wichita city, KS: 382,368 (+38,084)
Arlington city, TX: 365,438 (+32,469)
Bakersfield city, CA: 347,483 (+100,426)
New Orleans city, LA: 343,829 (-140,845)
Anaheim city, CA: 336,265 (+8,251)
Tampa city, FL: 335,709 (+32,262)
Aurora city, CO: 325,078 (+48,685)
Santa Ana city, CA: 324,528 (-13,449)
St. Louis city, MO: 319,294 (-28,895)
Pittsburgh city, PA: 305,704 (-28,859)
Corpus Christi city, TX: 305,215 (+27,761)
Riverside city, CA: 303,871 (+48,705)
Cincinnati city, OH: 296,943 (-34,342)
Lexington city, KY: 295,803 (+35,291)
Anchorage city, AK: 291,826 (+31,543)
Stockton city, CA: 291,707 (+47,936)
Toledo city, OH: 287,208 (-26,411)
St. Paul city, MN: 285,068 (-2,083)
Newark city, NJ: 277,140 (+3,594)
Greensboro city, NC: 269,666 (+45,775)
Plano city, TX: 259,841 (+37,811)
Lincoln city, NE: 258,379 (+32,798)
Henderson city, NV: 257,729 (+82,348)
Fort Wayne city, IN: 253,691 (+47,964)
Jersey City city, NJ: 247,597 (+7,542)
St. Petersburg city, FL: 244,769 (-3,463)
Chula Vista city, CA: 243,916 (+70,360)
Norfolk city, VA: 242,803 (+8,400)
Orlando city, FL: 238,300 (+52,349)
Chandler city, AZ: 236,123 (+59,542)
Laredo city, TX: 236,091 (+59,515)
Madison city, WI: 233,209 (+25,155)
Winston-Salem city, NC: 229,617 (+43,841)
Lubbock city, TX: 229,573 (+30,009)
Baton Rouge city, LA: 229,493 (+1,675)
Durham city, NC: 228,330 (+41,295)
Garland city, TX: 226,876 (+11,108)
Glendale city, AZ: 226,721 (+7,909)
Reno city, NV: 225,221 (+44,741)
Hialeah city, FL: 224,669 (-1,750)
Chesapeake city, VA: 222,209 (+23,025)
Scottsdale city, AZ: 217,385 (+14,680)
North Las Vegas city, NV: 216,961 (+101,473)
Irving city, TX: 216,290 (+24,675)
Fremont city, CA: 214,089 (+10,676)
Irvine city, CA: 212,375 (+69,303)
Birmingham city, AL: 212,237 (-30,583)
San Bernardino city, CA: 209,924 (+24,523)
Spokane city, WA: 208,916 (+13,287)
Gilbert city, AZ: 208,453 (+98,756)
Montgomery city, AL: 205,764 (+4,196)
Boise city, ID: 205,671 (+19,884)
Richmond city, VA: 204,214 (+6,424)
Des Moines city, IA: 203,433 (+4,751)
Modesto city, CA: 201,165 (+12,309)
Fayetteville city, NC: 200,564 (+79,549)
Augusta city, GA: 200,549 (+774)
Shreveport city, LA: 199,311 (-834)
Akron city, OH: 199,110 (-17,964)
Tacoma city, WA: 198,397 (+4,841)
Aurora city, IL: 197,899 (+54,909)
Oxnard city, CA: 197,899 (+27,541)
Fontana city, CA: 196,069 (+67,140)
Mobile city, AL: 195,111 (-3,804)
Little Rock city, AR: 193,524 (+10,391)
Moreno Valley city, CA: 193,365 (+50,984)
Glendale city, CA: 191,719 (-3,254)
Amarillo city, TX: 190,695 (+17,068)
Huntington Beach city, CA: 189,992 (+398)
Columbus city, GA: 189,885 (+3,594)
Grand Rapids city, MI: 188,040 (-9,760)
Salt Lake City city, UT: 186,440 (+4,697)
Tallahassee city, FL: 181,376 (+30,752)
Worcester city, MA: 181,045 (+8,397)
Newport News city, VA: 180,719 (+569)
Huntsville city, AL: 180,105 (+21,889)
Knoxville city, TN: 178,874 (+4,984)
Santa Clarita city, CA: 176,320 (+25,232)
Grand Prairie city, TX: 175,396 (+47,969)
Brownsville city, TX: 175,023 (+35,301)
Jackson city, MS: 173,514 (-10,742)
Overland Park city, KS: 173,372 (+24,292)
Garden Grove city, CA: 170,883 (+5,687)
Santa Rosa city, CA: 167,815 (+20,220)
Chattanooga city, TN: 167,674 (+12,120)
Oceanside city, CA: 167,086 (+6,057)
Fort Lauderdale city, FL: 165,521 (+13,124)
Rancho Cucamonga city, CA: 165,269 (+37,526)
Port St. Lucie city, FL: 164,603 (+75,834)
Ontario city, CA: 163,924 (+5,917)
Vancouver city, WA: 161,791 (+18,231)
Tempe city, AZ: 161,719 (+3,094)
Springfield city, MO: 159,498 (+7,918)
Lancaster city, CA: 156,633 (+37,915)
Eugene city, OR: 156,185 (+18,292)
Pembroke Pines city, FL: 154,750 (+17,323)
Salem city, OR: 154,637 (+17,713)
Cape Coral city, FL: 154,305 (+52,019)
Peoria city, AZ: 154,065 (+45,701)
Sioux Falls city, SD: 153,888 (+29,913)
Springfield city, MA: 153,060 (+978)
Elk Grove city, CA: 153,015 (+93,031)
Rockford city, IL: 152,871 (+2,756)
Palmdale city, CA: 152,750 (+36,080)
Corona city, CA: 152,374 (+27,378)
Salinas city, CA: 150,441 (-619)
Pomona city, CA: 149,058 (-415)
Pasadena city, TX: 149,043 (+7,369)
Joliet city, IL: 147,433 (+41,212)
Paterson city, NJ: 146,199 (-3,023)
Kansas City city, KS: 145,786 (-1,080)
Torrance city, CA: 145,438 (+7,492)
Bridgeport city, CT: 144,229 (+4,700)
Hayward city, CA: 144,186 (+4,156)
Fort Collins city, CO: 143,986 (+25,334)
Escondido city, CA: 143,911 (+10,352)
Lakewood city, CO: 142,980 (-1,146)
Naperville city, IL: 141,853 (+13,495)
Dayton city, OH: 141,527 (-24,652)
Hollywood city, FL: 140,768 (+1,411)
Sunnyvale city, CA: 140,081 (+8,321)
Alexandria city, VA: 139,966 (+11,683)
Mesquite city, TX: 139,824 (+15,301)
Hampton city, VA: 137,436 (-9,001)
Pasadena city, CA: 137,122 (+3,186)
Orange city, CA: 136,416 (+7,595)
Savannah city, GA: 136,286 (+4,776)
Cary town, NC: 135,234 (+40,698)
Fullerton city, CA: 135,161 (+9,158)
Warren city, MI: 134,056 (-4,191)
Clarksville city, TN: 132,929 (+29,474)
McKinney city, TX: 131,117 (+76,748)
McAllen city, TX: 129,877 (+23,463)
New Haven city, CT: 129,779 (+6,153)
Sterling Heights city, MI: 129,699 (+5,228)
West Valley City city, UT: 129,480 (+20,584)
Killeen city, TX: 127,921 (+41,010)
Topeka city, KS: 127,473 (+5,096)
Thousand Oaks city, CA: 126,683 (+9,678)
East Los Angeles CDP, CA: 126,496 (+2,213)
Cedar Rapids city, IA: 126,326 (+5,568)
Olathe city, KS: 125,872 (+32,910)
Elizabeth city, NJ: 124,969 (+4,401)
Waco city, TX: 124,805 (+11,079)
Hartford city, CT: 124,775 (+3,197)
Visalia city, CA: 124,442 (+32,877)
Gainesville city, FL: 124,354 (+28,907)
Simi Valley city, CA: 124,237 (+12,886)
Stamford city, CT: 122,643 (+5,560)
Bellevue city, WA: 122,363 (+12,794)
Concord city, CA: 122,067 (+287)
Miramar city, FL: 122,041 (+49,302)
Coral Springs city, FL: 121,096 (+3,547)
Lafayette city, LA: 120,623 (+10,366)
Carrollton city, TX: 119,097 (+9,521)
Roseville city, CA: 118,788 (+38,867)
Thornton city, CO: 118,772 (+36,388)
Beaumont city, TX: 118,296 (+4,430)
Allentown city, PA: 118,032 (11,400)
Surprise city, AZ: 117,517 (+86,669)
Evansville city, IN: 117,429 (-4,153)
Abilene city, TX: 117,063 (+1,133)
Frisco city, TX: 116,989 (+83,275)
Independence city, MO: 116,830 (+3,542)
Athens city, GA: 116,714 (+15,225)
Santa Clara city, CA: 116,468 (+14,107)
Springfield city, IL: 116,250 (+4,796)
Vallejo city, CA: 115,942 (-818)
Victorville city, CA: 115,903 (+51,873)
Peoria city, IL: 115,007 (+2,071)
Lansing city, MI: 114,297 (-4,831)
Ann Arbor city, MI: 113,934 (-90)
El Monte city, CA: 113,475 (-2,490)
Denton city, TX: 113,383 (+32,846)
Berkeley city, CA: 112,580 (+9,758)
Provo city, UT: 112,488 (+7,322)
Downey city, CA: 111,772 (+4,449)
Midland city, TX: 111,147 (+16,151)
Norman city, OK: 110,925 (+15,231)
Waterbury city, CT: 110,366 (+3,095)
Costa Mesa city, CA: 109,960 (+1,236)
Inglewood city, CA: 109,673 (-2,907)
Manchester city, NH: 109,565 (+2,559)
Murfreesboro city, TN: 108,755 (+39,939)
Columbia city, MO: 108,500 (+23,969)
Elgin city, IL: 108,188 (+13,701)
Clearwater city, FL: 107,685 (-1,102)
Miami Gardens city, FL: 107,167 (n/a)
Rochester city, MN: 106,769 (+20,963)
Pueblo city, CO: 106,595 (+4,474)
Lowell city, MA: 106,519 (+1,352)
Wilmington city, NC: 106,476 (+30,638)
Arvada city, CO: 106,433 (+4,280)
Ventura city, CA: 106,433 (+5,517)
Westminster city, CO: 106,114 (+5,174)
West Covina city, CA: 106,098 (+1,018)
Gresham city, OR: 105,594 (+15,389)
Fargo city, ND: 105,549 (+14,950)
Norwalk city, CA: 105,549 (+2,251)
Carlsbad city, CA: 105,328 (+27,081)
Fairfield city, CA: 105,321 (+9,143)
Cambridge city, MA: 105,162 (+3,807)
Wichita Falls city, TX: 104,553 (+356)
High Point city, NC: 104,371 (+18,532)
Billings city, MT: 104,170 (+14,323)
Green Bay city, WI: 104,057 (+1,744)
West Jordan city, UT: 103,712 (+35,376)
Richmond city, CA: 103,701 (+4,485)
Murrieta city, CA: 103,466 (+59,184)
Burbank city, CA: 103,340 (+3,024)
Palm Bay city, FL: 103,190 (+23,777)
Everett city, WA: 103,019 (+11,531)
Flint city, MI: 102,434 (-22,509)
Antioch city, CA: 102,372 (+11,840)
Erie city, PA: 101,786 (-1,931)
South Bend city, IN: 101,168 (-6,621)
Daly City city, CA: 101,123 (-2,498)
Centennial city, CO: 100,377 (n/a)
Temecula city, CA: 100,097 (+42,381)

ChiSoxRox · #**938** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 9:34 PM**

All cities over 270,000 save for NYC should now be accounted for, with Buffalo, NY being the next largest missing city.

LMich · #**939** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 10:17 PM**

Everyone does it, but I call B.S. on Detroit's number, and even the mayor who'd swore he wouldn't challenge the count today challeneged the count, so you know it has to be a pretty egregious undercount. Even SEMCOG, the local planning and government bureau, had the city "only" losing nearly 20% (760,000), and they are known for their pessimitic estimates. So, Detroit goes from losing 7.5% over the 90's, to losing 25% in the 00's, the LARGEST percentage loss EVER? Even more than after the 1967 Riot?

As for my city, Lansing "only" lost 4.1% of its population, which beat the estimate of having lost 4.5% showing a measurable slowdown from 6.4% over the 90's. And the region really beat the estimates of only having grown 1.3% having grown over the decade. It actually went from 447,734 to 464,036, a gain of 3.6%, nearly double what the Census had predicted. The central county of the Lansing area, Ingham County, also posted a tiny rate of growth, but the first growth since the 1980's. East Lansing was predicted to have declined 2.1% over the decade and actually grew 4.2% increase, the first grwoth since 70's.

I was kind of surprised to see Grand Rapids proper fall as much as it did. They were pretty close on Metro Flint and Metro Grand Rapids. I'll try to compose a list for the state's major metropolitan areas.

Chicago103 · #**940** Posted **Mar 22, 2011, 10:56 PM**

Biggest numerical declines in US cities for 2010 census.

Detroit city, MI: 713,777 (-237,493)
Chicago city, IL: 2,695,598 (-200,418)

Here I was actually hoping that Chicago would have the biggest numerical decline just so that it wouldn't be so bad for Detroit. Considering that Chicago is over three times the size of Detroit that wasn't expecting too much. For Detroit to actually lose more people numerically than Chicago in this census is just insane.