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[CCs77]

Well, they certainly must modify the logo, since in fact, Brooklyn and Queens have been cut out of the Long Island map.
Anyway, it is likely they change the logo as a part of their new image that comes with the move.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by CCs77

it is likely they change the logo as a part of their new image that comes with the move.

If anything, they would change the logo altogether, to something more urban.



http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/room-city-islander-logo-fans-urge-article-1.1192693

We want a Longer Island! Put city on the map in Islanders logo, fans say
Hockey team's icon uses only Nassau and Suffolk end of the isle, but city fans say that move to Barclays Center means
it's not too much of a stretch to put Queens and Brooklyn in.





By Stephen Rex Brown
October 25, 2012

THE ISLANDERS ARE coming to Brooklyn — but their logo is staying in Nassau and Suffolk. Keen-eyed hockey fans noted that the map of Long Island on the Islanders’ icon stops at the Nassau County line — omitting Brooklyn and Queens, which are geographically just as much a part of Long Island as those suburban counties. “They’re moving to Brooklyn; they should change it a tad,” said Jessica Pagan, 30, manager of the Modell’s Sporting Goods across the street from the Barclays Center. “It might bring a conflict with the people who live in Brooklyn — not even being able to see anything Brooklyn in the logo, you know.”

But Islanders owner Charles Wang promised that the 40-year-old franchise’s brand will stay the same. “In support of the illustrious history of the team, the New York Islanders name and logo will remain unchanged,” he said when the team announced the move Wednesday. A spokesman for the team reiterated the pledge Thursday.

[NYRebel]

^^^

YES! So I'm NOT the only one who noticed this?! Hopefully the do change/or add something to represent the move. Like you said something more urban.

Lol at the photoshopped picture above though! Hilarious!

It's weird though when people don't know that Brooklyn and Queens ARE on/apart of Long Island.

[Duck From NY]

Originally Posted by NYRebel

something more urban.

I like the classic look, although I think they should add the whole island in the logo.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by NYRebel

Hopefully the do change/or add something to represent the move. Like you said something more urban.

Anything can happen, but I wouldn't expect a change.

“In support of the illustrious history of the team, the New York Islanders name and logo will remain unchanged,” he said when the team announced the move Wednesday. A spokesman for the team reiterated the pledge Thursday.

[Inkoumori]

So crazy! But good for the boro.

Will be the smallest NHL arena by seating, smaller even then Winnipeg!@

Who pays for a Hockey luxury suite?

Poutine & Molson- all you can!

[NYguy]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brook...t=%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20Brooklyn

Barclays tax fight off

By JOSH SAUL
November 24, 2012

The owner of Brooklyn’s new Barclays Center yesterday withdrew a lawsuit it had lodged against the city over the arena’s tax assessment, claiming it filed the legal paperwork by accident. A subsidiary of Forest City Ratner said in a letter to the city that the attempt to fight a $741 million arena assessment was a mistake.

“In challenging the assessments on Forest City properties, petitions on its Arena and [adjacent sites] were inadvertently included. Forest City has instructed our attorneys to discontinue these petitions immediately,” the subsidiary wrote in a letter to the City Law Department.

The suit was filed in Brooklyn Supreme Court last month and challenged the city Finance Department’s assessment that valued the arena at $741 million was inflated by some $630 million.

[NYguy]

Love this headline...


http://observer.com/2012/11/atlantic-yards-opponents-exhausted-by-endless-losing-battle/

Atlantic Yards Opponents Exhausted By Endless, Losing Battle


By Kim Velsey
11/26 /12

The battle over the Atlantic Yards has been a punishing experience even for the most dedicated community activist. It has been long and unrewarding and now, with the opening of the arena, many are finally calling it quits, The New York Times reports.

Losing the fight over eminent domain was the first straw and after years of sifting through documents, plans and financial filings, many saw Jay-Z’s first concert there as the last straw. The arena is a fait accompli and while the huge housing towers that helped Forest City Ratner secure so much government funding have yet to materialize, nitpicking the plans for the next half-decade is not something a lot of the opponents can stomach.

Nor do they want to.

“I never realized how angry I was during those years,” musician Scott M.X. Turner told The Times. “Now my life is not being angry all the time.”

People neglected careers, friends and families to devote 20 or more hours to the battle against Barclays. Opposing the project became an all-consuming passion for many and one that they no longer want to devote themselves to.

[NYguy]

http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/36/10/all_yardsgetitdone_2013_03_08_bk.html

Atlantic Yards foes: Finish this project sooner rather than even later





By Eli Rosenberg
March 7, 2013

Atlantic Yards critics and supporters have finally found something they can agree on: Forest City Ratner needs to get the job done already.

Project foes are pressing the developer to finish the second phase of the much-delayed mega-project — 11 residential towers between Sixth and Vanderbilt avenues currently scheduled to take 15 years longer to complete than initially planned — within the original 10-year window.

“Twenty five years is too long to wait for the open space that was promised to the public as a benefit and that we have paid hundreds of million dollars for in government aid and zoning overrides,” said Danae Oratowski, the chairwoman of the Prospect Heights Neighborhood Development Council during a court-mandated forum last week on the potential impact of a quarter-century of construction.

Finishing the project sooner rather than even later wouldn’t just deliver its much-hyped but not-yet material perks — it would also spare neighbors a generation of construction-related headaches.

If Forest City Ratner can’t wrap things up within the original timeline, critics said Empire State Development, which oversees the project, should divvy up the development among other builders.

“[Empire State Development] needs to develop alternatives for building out in 10 years, perhaps with different developers if current developers are unwilling,” said long-time development critic Jim Vogel.

[RoldanTTLB]

"Now that we've dragged this on forever and made this developer's life a living hell, it's time for said developer to nut up and build everything. Not beaming the buildings in from another dimension post construction is just shameful." Said one longtime crotchety person.

[aquablue]

I'm shocked it would take so long. I can't blame the people who live near this. 25 years of construction?

[CCs77]

But what happened to this? did't they broke ground with the two first buildings, next to Barclays Center last december?

With its modular construction it will be an interesting building to watch the construction.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by CCs77

But what happened to this? did't they broke ground with the two first buildings, next to Barclays Center last december?

With its modular construction it will be an interesting building to watch the construction.

Yeah, they broke ground, but only on two buildings. There are like 18 buildings planned, if you add in the stuff across Flatbush owned by Ratner and the stuff across Atlantic (but AY proper is 15 buildings, I think).

And I doubt it will take 20 or 25 years to build everything. That was a possible bad-case estimate given by the developer, and the NIMBYs (of course) got all mad (first they were mad anything was being built, now they're mad things aren't being built fast enough; you could never satisfy them).

[Hamilton]

"critics said Empire State Development, which oversees the project, should divvy up the development among other builders."

For the first time in my life I couldn't agree more wholeheartedly with NIMBYs. If we've learned anything from 60s and 70s megaprojects, it's that projects on this scale this should be divvied up among several developers, both to spread risks and to make the streetscape and skyline more interesting.

And Ratner had utterly failed to keep his promises, to be fair.

[Crawford]

Originally Posted by Hamilton

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And Ratner had utterly failed to keep his promises, to be fair.

He seems to be fufilling all his promises. He built the arena, to world-class standards, using union construction wages, and the required local jobs, and none of the problems claimed by the NIMBYs have occured.

And now he's building the apartment buildings, also using union construction wages, and with local job hiring. The required affordable housing component is unchanged.

[NYguy]

Oh, those people will criticize anything he does or doesn't do. If anybody thinks there was a lot of chirping about the arena and how it's construction "disrupted" the neighborhood, just imagine if Ratner tried to get the entire complex up and under construction. And once its completed, they'll be complaining about all of the new traffic, people, and noise the development has brought.

Yes, phased development is what is needed here, if only to keep the crazies to a minimum. However long it takes it takes, it won't be as long as those railyards remained an open eyesore.

[NYguy]

http://observer.com/2013/03/a-deck-delay...ait-for-blight-concealing-rail-platform/

A Deck Delayed: Will Atlantic Yards Have To Wait For Blight-Concealing Rail Platform?


By Kim Velsey 3/28/13

In the last few months, the battle cries of the Atlantic Yards opponents have quieted—or been drowned out by the hubbub of basketball games and concerts at Barclays. There has been a subtle shift in tone and subject matter, with the conversation turning away from Atlantic Yards and the bitter debate that has characterized so much of the development’s history.

But despite the shift in focus, the eastern end of Downtown Brooklyn remains scarred by an open railyard—an 8.5-acre tear in the urban fabric that Forest City Ratner is supposed to some day heal. The platform over Vanderbilt Yards, as it’s known, is the difference between a highly challenging “blighted” development site—arguably deserving of, special subsidies, tax breaks and the seizure of private land through eminent domain—and a prime development site in a plum location.

The Atlantic Yards Report—the tireless, fine-tooth comber and sometimes conspiracy theorist of all documents related to Forest City Ratner—has unearthed what appeared to be confirmation that the deck over the 8.5-acre Vanderbilt Yard will not be built until after four other towers are completed on Southeast Block 1129.

But Forest City denies that anything has changed in the timeline or the phases. “The four buildings on Block 1129 are still, as they have always been, part of Phase II,” spokesman Joe DePlasco told The Observer. Sequencing for Phase II, he added, had yet to be determined and would be discussed as part of the environmental impact studies.

But what of the seeming discrepancy between Block 1129 being designated as part of Phase I in the annual report? Mr. DePlasco cited a tangle of legalese, but the takeaway was that different documents “have different descriptions for different purposes.”

So Block 1129 is sometimes part of Phase I and sometimes part of Phase II, but it has always been part of Phase II and its sequencing in relation to the deck has yet to be determined. Got that?

As for a timeline on when the platform would be completed, Mr. DePlasco pointed The Observer toward the penalties outlined in the SEC report if Forest City does not commence construction on the Permanent Railroad by December 31, 2013 and “substantially complete” construction by September 30, 2016: “[I]f we do not commence construction on the Permanent Railyard by December 31, 2013, we will be in default of various MTA project agreements and the MTA will have the ability to draw down our $86 million letter of credit. We would also lose approximately 3.3 million square feet of development rights for Phase II of Brooklyn Atlantic Yards.”

[NYC4Life]

Eminent domain was used in acquiring the space for the Barcleys Center. It's only appropriate that the rest of the development gets started soon.

[j-biz]

More trouble...

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/broo...gal-suit-article-1.1394910#ixzz2Yfo23ol1

Bruce Ratner’s modular tower violates city building rules: suit
By Reuven Blau / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Wednesday, July 10, 2013, 12:59 PM

Developer Bruce Ratner’s plan to build pre-fab apartment buildings at his Atlantic Yards complex dangerously ignores key building safety rules, city plumbers charge in a bombshell lawsuit.

The Plumbing Foundation claims in its suit, filed late Wednesday in Manhattan Supreme Court, that the Building Department is wrongly allowing Ratner to build the first phase of the $4.9 billion 15-building residential and commercial project without using licensed plumbers and fire suppression contractors.

.....

The group's 39-page lawsuit is seeking to force the Bloomberg administration to enforce the Construction Code. The litigation could delay the long-anticipated first building, which is expected to be completed by next summer.

[NYguy]

http://therealdeal.com/blog/2013/08/22/ratner-wants-investor-to-buy-80-of-atlantic-yards/

Bruce Ratner wants investor to buy 80% of Atlantic Yards


August 22, 2013

Bruce Ratner is seeking an investor to purchase as much as 80 percent of the $5 billion Atlantic Yards development.

A sale of a 50 to 80 percent interest, real estate analysts told the New York Times, could net his firm, Forest City Ratner, nearly $800 million. The deal would allow Ratner to retain control as developer, but expedite the progress of some of the long-delayed residential buildings.

When complete, Atlantic Yards will contain 14 buildings and roughly 6,000 apartments, near Atlantic and Flatbush avenues in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn. Most of the structures slated to be built on top of a steel and concrete platform over the railroad yard have faced construction delays. Forest City Ratner will owe millions in state fines if the residential portion of the project is not built.

Last month, the Plumbing Foundation of New York City, a nonprofit association of licensed contracting firms, manufacturers and suppliers, sued the Department of Buildings, alleging that Ratner’s plan to build those prefabricated towers ignores established building safety rules.

Ratner sold his personal stake in the Barclays Center as well a controlling position in the resident Nets basketball team in 2010, as previously reported.