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Old Posted Nov 19, 2006, 1:09 AM
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What kind of tunnel? If it is there, then why not have a pedestrial tunnel between the two buildings?
Well its an old "freight tunnel" whatever that means. The reason they wouldn't put a pedestrian tunnel between BCBS and Aqua is that there would be no point, it would get very little use and would therefore not be worth the money it would cost to connect it to the buildings, maintain it, and make it safe for use.
     
     
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Well its an old "freight tunnel" whatever that means. The reason they wouldn't put a pedestrian tunnel between BCBS and Aqua is that there would be no point, it would get very little use and would therefore not be worth the money it would cost to connect it to the buildings, maintain it, and make it safe for use.
I don't know if it's worth it in this case, but you do get FAR bonuses for extending the pedway network. Which in this area goes as far as the Swisshotel, so it's probably very easy to connect Aqua to it. However, in that area the pedway is above ground level but below Columbus Dr, so you wouldn't actually be putting the tunnel in the ground, you'd just have a dedicated path through the parking garage.
     
     
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Prior articles have indicated that Aqua would be connected to the Pedway. I think confusion is arising here between the old freight tunnel network vs. the Pedway system.
     
     
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Actually, after busting out the pedway map, it looks like it's possible for the Aqua site to connect the two largest sections of the pedway, which would be totally awesome and the city should really encourage them to do so.
     
     
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Maybe an underground tunnel loop in LSE would have been good. Also an underground connection to a train station. There is an entrance to the MP station near Aon, right? A nice straight shot to the Red Line would be good. From a map I saw, it looks like there is almost a connection, but probably a confusing one.

It's easy to get lost in there without paying close attention. I guess that is why it isn't used much. Also people probably don't know about it. Maybe they have poor signage to keep people out. I have often walked through there while not seeing anybody for long stretches

It would be good if all major buildings were connected underground.
     
     
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Maybe an underground tunnel loop in LSE would have been good. Also an underground connection to a train station. There is an entrance to the MP station near Aon, right? A nice straight shot to the Red Line would be good. From a map I saw, it looks like there is almost a connection, but probably a confusing one.

It's easy to get lost in there without paying close attention. I guess that is why it isn't used much. Also people probably don't know about it. Maybe they have poor signage to keep people out. I have often walked through there while not seeing anybody for long stretches

It would be good if all major buildings were connected underground.
There are two connections to MP station near Aon 1) is actually accessed via PruPlaza, and 2) is accessed via BCBS.

Last winter, on cold days, I routinely walked from the Washington Blue line stop to work in Aon threw the Pedways. That option currently doesn't exist because of the closure of the Washington Redlne because of the 108 N. State construction.

As far as usage goes, during the peek commute times there are always bunches of people down there. Except in extreme cases of weather, I only use it when I'm running late, it is quicker to walk the pedway than the street, but walking the street is much more interesting.

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There are two connections to MP station near Aon 1) is actually accessed via PruPlaza, and 2) is accessed via BCBS.

Last winter, on cold days, I routinely walked from the Washington Blue line stop to work in Aon threw the Pedways. That option currently doesn't exist because of the closure of the Washington Redlne because of the 108 N. State construction.

As far as usage goes, during the peek commute times there are always bunches of people down there. Except in extreme cases of weather, I only use it when I'm running late, it is quicker to walk the pedway than the street, but walking the street is much more interesting.

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yeah the pedway is cool though I have not used it in awhile......used to have good shoe shines
     
     
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Rising up to new heights
Jeanne Gang making name in architecture with unique designs



BY SUSAN DIESENHOUSE

November 19, 2006

Nature is a driving force in the work of rising design star Jeanne Gang, the 42-year-old principal of Studio/Gang/Architects.

For example, seaside motifs define her largest commission to date, the approximately $500 million Aqua residential tower, which by year's end will start rising on North Columbus Drive.

Gang lives downtown and teaches at the Illinois Institute of Technology. She and her husband and co-principal, Mark Schendel, 47, run their 20-person firm in Wicker Park, where reporter Susan Diesenhouse interviewed Gang.

Q. What is your most original concept?

A. Every project has something special because each one focuses on the client and their issues. What we seek, the excitement of architecture, is the breakthrough moment when the design expresses the project criteria.

Often, my concepts spring from childhood memories of landscapes. My Dad was a civil engineer, and we took lots of road trips to look at bridges. Still ingrained in my mind from one of those trips through Mesa Verde, Colo., is the image of the physical landscape merging with the vernacular architecture--dwellings carved into cliffs.

Q. Since Aqua is the largest, most expensive building you've designed so far, was there ever an intimidating moment?

A. No, we felt we had a good partner, Loewenberg Associates. They're very experienced at construction, and they engaged strong structural engineers.

It may be the largest commission for Studio Gang, but I've had lots of experience with big projects when I worked at other firms. (For instance, while working in Rotterdam for Rem Koolhaas, she helped design the 1 million-square-meter Grand Palais in Lille, France. It is a business, entertainment and residential project.)

Q. How are technological advances affecting your work?

A. In the Industrial Age, a lot of architecture was about using repetition to create a design that was easy to build. Now, digital tools help define our designs.

For Aqua, we discovered that using digital tools let us create slight, very gradual variations in the floor plates, making movement that responds to the site with wavelike configurations. Some people think that we get that effect by having the walls move, but it's the floors.

With digital drawing software we can draft repetitive elements faster than we could by hand. Laser cutting tools help us to quickly make models that translate the design to the scale of the building. In the field, the contractor can then use the digital information to lay out the curves for the real building or use a [global positioning system] to plot the points in space.

Q. Do you experience tension between your art, architecture and clients' economic requirements?

A. Always. I've never had a project without a budget. We always need the design to focus on what's really important for the client. We work with cost estimators early in the project. They could be consultants of ours or of the owners.

Q. How has the rising cost of construction materials affected your designs?

A. The intense cost fluctuations of the past few years, especially steel and concrete, affect the materials we use for the structural frame. For some architects it isn't a problem. They want to cover up the structure. But it's a problem for us because the structure is part of our design. For instance, Aqua wouldn't work as well in steel. It would be all angles. But the design concept is about waves, the fluidity of concrete.

Q. Do you ever feel that business gets in the way of designing?

A. In residential projects, a strong component is what's sellable. In the past, the market wasn't studied that heavily. Now it's almost a science determining how many studios, one-, two- or three-bedroom units to have. An architect has to respond to the market.

Q. Do you delineate between your art and your architecture?

A. No. Defining a three-dimensional building and its interior spaces that respond to the client's criteria is our art. Architecture isn't an art that's practiced in isolation.

Q. What type of projects do you prefer?

A. I especially like public spaces and civic buildings, like museums, libraries and projects like the planned Ford Calumet Environmental Center.

Q. Do you consider yourself to be a regional architect?

A. I respond to the region in which I'm working. For Aqua, overlooking Lake Michigan, the design is about water. But in hot, humid Biloxi, Miss., I'm working with Architects for Humanity on a house made of wood that uses natural ventilation. It opens when the weather's good and closes during storms.

Q. Where is Chicago architecture headed?

A. I hope it goes in a greener, more sustainable direction. Using less energy is the single biggest issue in architecture. It's critical that architects and owners start to address it.

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Principal: Since 1997 at Gang/O'Donnell, the successor firm to Studio/Gang/Architects


Previous experience: Booth Hansen, Chicago; Rem Koolhaas, Rotterdam


Major projects include: Starlight Theater, Rockford; Liu Building, a youth center in Chinatown; 9/11 memorial in Hoboken, N.J.; installation for an aerospace design exhibit at the Art Institute of Chicago; represented the U.S. at 2007 Venice Biennale for Architecture
     
     
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Wow is she a dry interview! Thanks for posting, I still have hope this one will realize its potential.
     
     
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I don't know if it's worth it in this case, but you do get FAR bonuses for extending the pedway network. Which in this area goes as far as the Swisshotel, so it's probably very easy to connect Aqua to it. However, in that area the pedway is above ground level but below Columbus Dr, so you wouldn't actually be putting the tunnel in the ground, you'd just have a dedicated path through the parking garage.
Aqua will be linked into the Pedway, which I am happy about for the above reasons listed. I think its an underutilized asset in Chicago, and really wish more buildings linked into it. I am still quite suprized 340 on the Park did not link into it. Sure it takes activity off the street, but in daytime hours the Loop is filled with enough people to offset the difference.
     
     
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Aqua will be linked into the Pedway, which I am happy about for the above reasons listed. I think its an underutilized asset in Chicago, and really wish more buildings linked into it. I am still quite suprized 340 on the Park did not link into it. Sure it takes activity off the street, but in daytime hours the Loop is filled with enough people to offset the difference.

When the weather is descent it is better to walk above ground.

Also, if many more buildings continue to be added, there needs to be some activity taken off of the above ground streets.

A lake front subway would be another good thing, but not now.
     
     
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815 feet is measured from Columbus Drive, and the press release (^^) says that it's 88 total floors, 6 of which are below the Columbus level. That means that the remaining 82 floors all have an average height of 9.94 feet. Let's go out on a limb and say that the ceiling of floor 88 is 5 feet below the top of the roof. That now means an average height of 10 feet exactly. How thick will the floor plates be? How thick will the rest of the unused space between floors be? It has to total 16 inches from ceiling to floor to get down to 8 feet 8 inches. That seems like a lot to me, but I'm no expert. Can anyone comment on this?
A few things: In addition to the first couple floors above Columbus having much higher ceilings, there appear to be a couple high mechanical floors in the building. Also, there are most likely differing ceiling and floor-to-floor heights for condo vs apartment vs hotel. At any rate, looking at the overall picture (815 ft. for 82 floors is short for the year 2006, even for a residential tower. Compare it to any of the other 700+ foot residential proposals out there. For instance, Legacy is a few ft. taller than Aqua, yet with 10 or 11 fewer stories. I guess my main point is, Loewenberg IMO seems to be quite fond of identifying the market standard ceiling height for each product he builds - whether it's condo, apartment, hotel or commercial space, and then lopping 4"-6" off the market standard.
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^ looking at it from a sustainable design perspective, those extra 4-6" inches of lopped-off ceiling space make the building more green-friendly as tall ceilings, while attractive, simply use more fossil fuels to heat. the lower than market standard ceiling heights that this building appears to have may have been a green iniative pushed by gang herself, especially considering her interest in sustainable design.

maybe it's time for people to become more responsible and not demand fuel wasting 10' ceilings. maybe aqua will be the first push in a reversal of the current growing ceiling height trend to bring the market back to a more responsible level.
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^Not likely. Also not likely that 1' less ceiling height makes for substantial energy savings.
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^^^ Actually, shorter ceiling heights can greatly reduce the amount of energy used per person simpily because there are then less cubic feet of space per person that need to be kept warm or cold depending on the season. Think about this, a 1' reduction in ceiling height may not sound like its going to do much, but when you look at 1000 or 1500 sqft condo, you see 1000 or 1500 less cubic feet of space that needs to be heated and cooled. Depending how high the ceilings are before they are lowered by 1', you see anywhere from a 10%-20% reduction in volume, and thus a 10%-20% reduction in heating and cooling energy required.
     
     
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The condos were advertised with 8' 8" ceilings.

From the look of the scale model, all of the floors (above the pedestal base) appear to have the same height; whether hotel, apartment or condo.
     
     
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I think the R-Value of the exterior wall would have a lot more to do with heating costs than 12" in ceiling height, no?
     
     
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I think the green aspect of the lower ceilings was an added bonus. It might just be possible that the reason was for more aesthetic purposes such as reducing the distances from one undulating balcony to another. Perhaps if they were spaced farther apart and you could see more flat glass, it would reduce the illusion of rippling waves on the exterior of the building. Anyway, it was just a thought.
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