East Village Rejuvenation Plan - Page 46

Spring2008 · #**901** Posted **Aug 11, 2014, 11:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Have they set a date yet for the opening of the St. Patrick's Island Bridge? It still says fall 2014, but it's pretty much complete now. They still haven't released an actual opening date.

Looks like they're building a big park on the EV side of the bridge right now, so prob want to get that out of the way before the opening.

Also, that plaza a couple blocks south coming together too. Infrastructure, landscaping, parks are unreal in EV, too bad high-rise construction has been lagging lately.

Chadillaccc · #**902** Posted **Aug 12, 2014, 1:02 AM**

Yeah. hopefully it gets a big shot in the arm with Verve, Hilton, and N3 starting by spring?

Riverhouse too probably.

Spring2008 · #**903** Posted **Aug 12, 2014, 9:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Yeah. hopefully it gets a big shot in the arm with Verve, Hilton, and N3 starting by spring?

Riverhouse too probably.

I'm surprised Verve hasn't already started, they appear to be using it as a construction yard.

Spring2008 · #**904** Posted **Aug 12, 2014, 9:11 PM**

Big excavator, and backhoe at EV Hilton. On the west side of St. Louis they now have a caisson drill, couple trailers, and another backhoe too, this one has be starting right away.

Chadillaccc · #**905** Posted **Aug 13, 2014, 2:17 PM**

Great news! Are we sure this isn't equipment for the train tunnel project though?

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Originally Posted by Spring2008

I'm surprised Verve hasn't already started, they appear to be using it as a construction yard.

Yeah, I am surprised too. Hopefully now they Fuse has topped out, and Pulse able to start shooting for the sky, they can move their focus on to Verve.

Spring2008 · #**906** Posted **Aug 13, 2014, 2:51 PM**

No, this is a seperate fenced off area attached to EV Hilton, just off the side to allow for excavating the pavement first before they roll the drill and other equipment on site. The library has their own area to the west with trailers and equipment.

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Great news! Are we sure this isn't equipment for the train tunnel project though?

Spring2008 · #**907** Posted **Aug 13, 2014, 2:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Yeah, I am surprised too. Hopefully now they Fuse has topped out, and Pulse able to start shooting for the sky, they can move their focus on to Verve.

Fram & Slokker's actually behind Verve, not Bosa. Surprised they haven't started though. My buddy was telling me they were 50% sold back in about April.

Chadillaccc · #**908** Posted **Aug 13, 2014, 3:00 PM**

Oh perfect. So it's the real deal then!

Right! Sorry about that. Still though, with all of the progress on First, you'd think that they'd have started Verve by now. Once the excavation equipment was done there, they should have just moved it over there. Perhaps there are some revisions to the development process ongoing? Maybe they're going to build both sides of the project at once and that's why it's taking so long.

Spring2008 · #**909** Posted **Aug 13, 2014, 3:04 PM**

^They've got a bunch of construction material and equipment(brick) etc, so i'm assuming F&S is leasing out that site to the city for the summer? Sucks cause there's at least a few empty parcels to the south.

Chadillaccc · #**910** Posted **Aug 15, 2014, 2:27 PM**

Good to hear!

Don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but this is Fifth Street Square...

It is currently UC and will be opening in a month or two, at the intersection of 5th Street and 7 Avenue. It is the first part of The Riff to commence. It will also be the first of the East Village's three public parks to open. With St. Patrick's Island opening next fall, and Celebration Square opening in 2016.

mellbell416 · #**911** Posted **Aug 15, 2014, 3:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Good to hear!

Don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but this is Fifth Street Square...

It is currently UC and will be opening in a month or two, at the intersection of 5th Street and 7 Avenue. It is the first part of The Riff to commence. It will also be the first of the East Village's three public parks to open. With St. Patrick's Island opening next fall, and Celebration Square opening in 2016.

Would love more grass and less concrete... otherwise, I'd be more inclined to call it a plaza, not a park.

stophs · #**912** Posted **Aug 15, 2014, 4:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Good to hear!

Don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but this is Fifth Street Square...

It is currently UC and will be opening in a month or two, at the intersection of 5th Street and 7 Avenue. It is the first part of The Riff to commence. It will also be the first of the East Village's three public parks to open. With St. Patrick's Island opening next fall, and Celebration Square opening in 2016.

Not bad, but a nothing special. I wouldn't mind seeing some art in this space. Whenever I drive by this it seems like the alignment of this and the riff is a bit off. It seems like they focus on opening north - south movements in this space, but this is where the riff passes through so you'd think the design would try to match the angular flow they are trying to create. We'll see how it turns out.

mwalker_mw · #**913** Posted **Aug 15, 2014, 4:59 PM**

The scale of the 'people' and background buildings is way off on that render. The space is maybe 75' x 75'.

It is a plaza and it will be appropriate for the site but really nothing more than a slightly exaggerated island in the middle of a square-a-bout (this is when you take a roundabout and ruin it in typical Calgary fashion by adding corners and stop signs).

MasterG · #**914** Posted **Aug 15, 2014, 5:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by mwalker_mw

The scale of the 'people' and background buildings is way off on that render. The space is maybe 75' x 75'.

It is a plaza and it will be appropriate for the site but really nothing more than a slightly exaggerated island in the middle of a square-a-bout (this is when you take a roundabout and ruin it in typical Calgary fashion by adding corners and stop signs).

This is a good post. Take something easy to implement and efficient and Calgarify it with stop signs and corners to make it dumb.

I am turning against designs like this. I like Plazas, but the lack of grass or other street furniture these places often have in the name of reducing loiterers and "undesirables" is starting to wear on me (see the ridiculous discriminatory anti-homeless public washroom policy in EV). I want places to sit and linger, I don't care if that means that people different than me will use them too. That is the core job of a public space is for it to be for everyone. We are all people and we all need to sit down eventually.

Hopefully the implementation will be better than this high-level image suggests.

Colin · #**915** Posted **Aug 16, 2014, 8:05 AM**

Too bad they didn't just make a circle and we could have had our mini version of Columbus Circle.

McMurph · #**916** Posted **Aug 16, 2014, 5:21 PM**

Having cycled past the thing the other day I'd say that we're in line for 1) a very nice traffic circle and 2) a lame excuse for a park. If the landscaping, furnishings and surrounding pedestrianishness of the area is good then it will be an alright spot to linger for a while. I doubt it will ever be much more than that. Having said that, if the area gets dense and busy every little respite inside the neighbourhood (as opposed to on the edge with the river and fort calgary) will be welcome.

Jimby · #**917** Posted **Aug 17, 2014, 2:48 PM**

I suggest the title of this thread be changed to "East Village".

http://www.avenuecalgary.com/City-Life/What-Those-Red-Sentinels-By-the-East-Village-Mean

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WhipperSnapper · #**918** Posted **Aug 17, 2014, 3:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by suburbia

The comment was in direct response to the question of the East Village Hilton, for which progress has remained at a complete standstill from precisely the time of the fiasco in the public restrooms. You can understand their stance. The Hilton brand does not normally need to manage illegal activity in restrooms, and they know that if they are put in place in advance of a resolution to the vagrant issues in that area of the city, the problem will become theirs. I'm sure they'll start moving forward at some point, but Hilton will not be in the immediate next phases of East Village.

You really live in a bubble. There are Hilton brands around the world in far seedier areas than the East Village. Y'know Hilton doesn't build. They license and I don't see a couple vagrant that are easily handled with minimal security stopping them from taking millions of dollars in fees from the hotel investment company. These aren't five start brands. You find these out by airports, suburban big box centres as well as affordable alternatives in less than prime urban areas.

Chadillaccc · #**919** Posted **Aug 17, 2014, 5:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jimby

I suggest the title of this thread be changed to "East Village".

I was thinking the same thing. You should message a mod and ask. I would, but pretty much all the mods seem to have it out for me, so that's not an option

Or even have it changed to "Rivers District Developments" as it would then also include the things proposed for Fort Calgary and the next stages of RiverWalk.

Chadillaccc · #**920** Posted **Aug 21, 2014, 4:39 PM**

East Village Hilton is now UC

Add another to the list! I wonder when we'll see the update proposal for the RioCan site?