NEW YORK | World Trade Center Memorial & Transit Hub

[Zensteeldude]

I think you are thinking of the PATH. It's a seperate system from the NYC subway. It was moved to the bottom of the bathtub when the origonal WTC was built.

[YSL]

Can someone tell me what that building (or whatever it is) under construction accross the path station/7 wtc is?

[Obey]

Originally Posted by YSL

Can someone tell me what that building (or whatever it is) under construction accross the path station/7 wtc is?

Your probably thinking of Fiterman Hall

[Zerton]

Is there any projection on the annual budget of running these fountains? They seem quite expensive to run/maintain.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by GioFX

Wow thanks zen, so the subway box is being elevated and there will be the basement/shopping malls underneath. Interesting indeed.

My understanding is that the tracks where at bedrock level in the old WTC, right?

Yeah, you are thinking about the PATH, which originally was east of Greenwich. The original PATH terminal was relatively recently (within the past 4 years) dug up in preparation for Silverstein's 3 and 4 WTC. But the subway box (#1 line) is in active use, and is suspended much like the original PATH tubes were during the original WTC construction.



http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/...oundations.jpg



http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...thtub_west.JPG

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...thtub_west.JPG



An image comparing original PATH track tubes/terminal location to the relocated WTC version...


http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?21823

[GioFX]

Thanks NYg, I just remember seeing that pics of the elevated PATH tracks.

Fascinating stuff indeed, I think most of the people just don't consider how much huge work there is beneath the WTC. It really give you the scale of a megaproject like this.

[Zensteeldude]

The below grade area of the WTC is about equal to half the above grade area of the Pentagon. But the Petagon doesn't have trains running through it.

[STR]

Originally Posted by NYguy

Yeah, you are thinking about the PATH, which originally was east of Greenwich. The original PATH terminal was relatively recently (within the past 4 years) dug up in preparation for Silverstein's 3 and 4 WTC.

Yep, the old H&M terminal was actually the site of the (in)famous WTC Swiss gold vault, and the PANY "Dataport," an early IT hub. I don't recall what the dataport was really used for though...

[fimiak]

Originally Posted by Zerton

Is there any projection on the annual budget of running these fountains? They seem quite expensive to run/maintain.

I am not sure what the fountains will cost to maintain, but think about the whole picture. The WTC memorial is going to bring millions of tourists to downtown Manhattan, and therefore billions of dollars over time. You could say this is going to be one of the most profitable ventures the City of New York has ever undertaken, but that could seem fairly insensitive.

[Kamatzu]

Originally Posted by fimiak

I am not sure what the fountains will cost to maintain, but think about the whole picture. The WTC memorial is going to bring millions of tourists to downtown Manhattan, and therefore billions of dollars over time. You could say this is going to be one of the most profitable ventures the City of New York has ever undertaken, but that could seem fairly insensitive.

They just wont be able to talk to eachother over the sound of 200x200 water pits. =P

[jamesinclair]

Did they take advantage of the fact that the 1 tunnel was "naked" to make fixes or improvements?

If anyone wants a new extra track to store disabled trains, this looks like the best time to do that.

[Mr. Lion]

Originally Posted by Kamatzu

They just wont be able to talk to eachother over the sound of 200x200 water pits. =P

This still worries me.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by jamesinclair

If anyone wants a new extra track to store disabled trains, this looks like the best time to do that.

I think they are literally out of space for anything other than what's already planned.

Originally Posted by GioFX

I think most of the people just don't consider how much huge work there is beneath the WTC. It really give you the scale of a megaproject like this.

Yeah, just look over this photo (from wtc.com)

[Zensteeldude]

Excellent ! <Said in his best Mr. Burns imitation>

Originally Posted by jamesinclair

Did they take advantage of the fact that the 1 tunnel was "naked" to make fixes or improvements?

If anyone wants a new extra track to store disabled trains, this looks like the best time to do that.

Seeing as the subway box was repaired shortly after 9/11 and there isn't any extra space at the WTC the #1 box really doesn't need a whole lot. But, they are going to make the Courtlandt St. station a little bigger and give much of the box a new top.

[NYguy]

Blake Perdue

[Zensteeldude]

Great night shot !

Well, they have placed that section of box girder and there are 2 more sections waiting to be installed.

In case someone needs the link to the non-framed highres earthcam.
http://archives.earthcam.com/archive...gzrobotic1.jpg

[NYguy]

Went by the site today, and it took a while for me to realize what I was looking at...










DECEMBER 10, 2010

[Remy_Bork]

Oooh, those girders seem a bit reminiscent of the bird's nest Olympic stadium in Beijing.

[Innsertnamehere]

can't wait to see the cladding on the museum entrance.

[Zensteeldude]

NYGuy, I have herd the white perimeter steel referred to as "The Crash" or the "Crushed Bird Cage" . I see what the architect is aiming for but he missed, in MHO.

At any rate, it is progress ! Great pics.