HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Manitoba & Saskatchewan


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #881  
Old Posted Nov 8, 2025, 11:07 PM
cllew cllew is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,680
Quote:
Originally Posted by bon_vivant View Post
My sister was checking out an apartment there ages ago. The atrium was stuffy... damp... fogged up glass... meh. I'd opt for an outside-facing suite only.

I remember working at the Bay in the early 90's. I often had to go to the sub-basement for store fixtures. It was fascinating. Tiny offices with people repairing/altering clothes, repackaging merch, fixing stuff. Dark with bare lightbulbs hanging down. A different world down there. I'm glad they're making good use of the old Bay building. Seeing Eaton's getting knocked down broke me.
There were pictures that I have seen somewhere on this site from the 1950's showing the store climate control center in the Bay's sub basement. With all the indicator lighting and pressure indicator dials it looked like NASA mission control.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #882  
Old Posted Nov 16, 2025, 1:43 AM
Wpg_Guy's Avatar
Wpg_Guy Wpg_Guy is online now
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Posts: 6,436





RESTORING AN ICON

The Southern Chiefs’ Organization’s Wehwehneh Bahgahkinahgohn project is transforming Winnipeg’s historic Hudson’s Bay building into a vibrant hub for housing, culture and economic opportunity – and setting a new standard for Indigenous-led urban revitalization.

By Kelly Parker

One of the most significant heritage retrofit projects in Canada – and a milestone in national reconciliation efforts and Indigenous-led urban revitalization – is underway. This transformative redevelopment of Winnipeg’s historic Hudson’s Bay building by the Southern Chiefs’ Organization (SCO), known as Wehwehneh Bahgahkinahgohn, was first covered in Build Manand since and since then the scope momentum of the project have only evolved.

The project, first announced in April 2022, represents a bold vision for reconciliation, urban renewal and economic empowerment. Once completed, Wehwehneh Bahgahkinahgohn – meaning “it is visible” in Anishinaabemowin – will feature:

- 373 housing units;
- 200 affordable housing units for First Nations citizens; and
- Office and retail spaces to foster First Nations entrepreneurship.

The redevelopment, led by SCO in partnership with multiple levels of government, aims to revitalize an iconic building into a space that prioritizes First Nations cultures, economic development and community services.

One major headline grabber has been the revised budget, with increasingly accurate budgeting bringing the total to $310 million, due in part to a sharp increase in materials costs. Beyond that, there have been other added features to the project. The project added more units – which was a large part of the new budget – and the construction manager, PCL, provided a budget that was much more accurate and not reliant on conceptual draft design and program elements.

Of course, the U.S. tariff situation and increasingly volatile global economics have also become part of the picture.

SCO Grand Chief Jerry Daniels says that the revised budget contains contingency to account for those potential unknown impacts, including “evolution of design and pricing, increased program, supply chain pressures, inflation and tariff threats on construction materials in addition to heritage building upgrades, structural reinforcements and modern energy-efficiency standards.”

Although a drive-by of the former Hudson’s Bay building façade so well known to Winnipeggers doesn’t reveal much activity – apart from the construction crane on its west side – inside is a hive of activity. “Right now, we’re close to having interior demolition complete, which allows us to get in and get moving on the – call it interior work or renovation – says Kelly Wallace, vice president and district manager for PCL Construction’s Winnipeg District. “We are working through structural demolition that is opening up the centre for an atrium, which will probably be about 50-per-cent complete [in the next month or so].”

Wallace explains that there are two parts to the interior demolition. “First, we took the building back to its original base on the interior right Down to the bare structure, removing any asbestos or anything hazardous in the building,” he says. “Step two is more of a deconstruction. We’re essentially cutting an opening the size of a hockey rink, from the roof all the way down to the main floor. That’s what the tower crane is doing – it’s hoisting out the large pieces that we’re saw-cutting from the structure and removing all the pieces to make way for the new atrium.”

From the get-go, with this being a retrofit of a very old building, surprises have been expected along the way. The building has undergone plenty of renovating over the years, and original building codes are vastly outdated, uncovering the layers of previous renovations will inevitably reveal surprises.

“On the positive side,” says Wallace, “we discovered original terrazzo and hardwood flooring in several areas – elements that can be restored with a little TLC. This approach to sustainable adaptive reuse not only preserves character but also reduces waste and helps manage costs.”

“On the more complex side, as we continue to uncover the existing structure, we may encounter unexpected conditions," Wallace continues, "If and when we do our construction and design teams – including Number TEN Architectural Group, Crosier Kilgour and MCW Consultants – will address the conditions. “As with any project of this nature, planning for these situations is essential and part of a good management strategy.”

One of the most important aspects of the project is to prioritize employment opportunities for First Nations people wherever possible. “One of the things that we’re really focused on when we do First Nations work is, how do you increase the capacity of the First Nations members?” says Wallace. “How many people became apprentices during the course of construction, and then how many First Nations contractors were able to work on the job and actually grow so that they can do larger work in the future? That’s how we frame capacity building.”

To support this goal, the project is using Miikahnah Connect, a First Nations workforce recruitment app, which, to date, has led to Indigenous employees representing 77 per cent of the total workforce (combined prime and 155,400 worker hours as of June 2025.

“A significant number of that figure are members of the Nations that SCO represents,” says Daniels. “As much as we have been working on [employing] Indigenous workers – which includes the Métis, Inuit and all First Nations – we’ve also been very focused on the representatives from our Nations, and I think that’s a significant part of the work we’ve done.”

“We believe this is part of our journey to reconciliation,” says Wallace. “How do we work with our partners on these projects to grow their capacity because ideally, we want to work ourselves out of a job. I think that will tell a powerful story about what Manitoba has accomplished and hopefully sets the stage for what other regions can aspire to.”

The current timeline will see the suites completed in the summer of 2028 to allow for heritage preservation, sustainable construction and building for long-term community needs. At that point, Wallace says, “there might be some commercial areas we just waiting for fit-out based on tenant arrangements.”
__________________
Winnipeg Act II - April 2024

Winnipeg Developments

In The Future Every Building Will Be World-Famous For Fifteen Minutes.

Last edited by Wpg_Guy; Nov 16, 2025 at 5:33 AM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #883  
Old Posted Jan 19, 2026, 2:57 AM
Wpg_Guy's Avatar
Wpg_Guy Wpg_Guy is online now
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Posts: 6,436

An aerial view last fall of the excavation of the centre of the former Bay department store in downtown Winnipeg



CBC News

Video Link
__________________
Winnipeg Act II - April 2024

Winnipeg Developments

In The Future Every Building Will Be World-Famous For Fifteen Minutes.

Last edited by Wpg_Guy; Jan 19, 2026 at 3:08 AM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #884  
Old Posted Jan 29, 2026, 4:12 PM
cheswick's Avatar
cheswick cheswick is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Kildonan
Posts: 2,935
__________________
There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #885  
Old Posted Jan 29, 2026, 4:23 PM
Biff's Avatar
Biff Biff is offline
What could go wrong?
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 9,669
Kind of looks like they are making a temporary deck to build the glass skylight.
__________________
"But a city can be smothered by too much reverence for its past. The skyline must keep acquiring new peaks, because the day we consider it complete and untouchable is the day the city begins to die." - Justin Davidson - May 2010 Issue of New York
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #886  
Old Posted Jan 29, 2026, 4:42 PM
bomberjet bomberjet is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 15,809
That's what it looks like. Would be neat to see an interior photo of the scaffold they have set-up. Looks like a central 'beam' if you will to support joists spanning either way.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #887  
Old Posted Jan 29, 2026, 8:14 PM
ColdRain&Snow's Avatar
ColdRain&Snow ColdRain&Snow is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2023
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 1,337
Damn this building is going to look so cool once it's done.
__________________
"Build baby build."
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #888  
Old Posted Jan 29, 2026, 9:30 PM
trueviking's Avatar
trueviking trueviking is offline
surely you agree with me
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: winnipeg
Posts: 14,705
I went to the factory a couple weeks ago in Kleefeld, where the glulam beams are being made to support the skylight. They look like toothpicks in my renderings but in real life they are massive. Everything about this building is bigger than you think.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #889  
Old Posted Feb 2, 2026, 10:03 PM
anthonyk anthonyk is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: SE Manitoba
Posts: 320
Quote:
Originally Posted by trueviking View Post
I went to the factory a couple weeks ago in Kleefeld, where the glulam beams are being made to support the skylight. They look like toothpicks in my renderings but in real life they are massive. Everything about this building is bigger than you think.
Is Cornerstone doing the glulam? They did them in the atrium at the new events center here in Steinbach, crazy how large those beams and columns get, but they always end up looking great.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #890  
Old Posted Feb 17, 2026, 8:16 PM
cheswick's Avatar
cheswick cheswick is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Kildonan
Posts: 2,935


They changed their mind and put a roof back on.
__________________
There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #891  
Old Posted Feb 17, 2026, 9:01 PM
KnoxfordGuy's Avatar
KnoxfordGuy KnoxfordGuy is offline
New Brunswick booster!
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Fredericton, New Brunswick
Posts: 2,129
Glass?
__________________
Fredericton. Noble Daughter Of The Forest.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #892  
Old Posted Feb 17, 2026, 10:18 PM
trueviking's Avatar
trueviking trueviking is offline
surely you agree with me
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: winnipeg
Posts: 14,705
wood beams first...
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #893  
Old Posted Feb 25, 2026, 5:20 PM
cheswick's Avatar
cheswick cheswick is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Kildonan
Posts: 2,935
Looks like the first wood beam is being put into place today.
__________________
There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #894  
Old Posted Feb 25, 2026, 6:37 PM
wags_in_the_peg's Avatar
wags_in_the_peg wags_in_the_peg is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Posts: 3,654
pic from far away confirms there a beam hovering over

__________________
just an ordinary Prairie Boy who loves to be in the loop on what is going on
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #895  
Old Posted Feb 25, 2026, 6:42 PM
bomberjet bomberjet is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 15,809
Nice. Looks like it's sitting on the scaffolding they have set-up.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #896  
Old Posted Feb 26, 2026, 3:48 PM
1ajs's Avatar
1ajs 1ajs is offline
ʇɥƃıuʞ -*ʞpʇ*-
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: lynn lake
Posts: 26,547
so we will notice the atrium from the ground?

did viking make sure it sticks up enough when looking up graham it gives a apearice of a block of ice pocking up during break up?
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #897  
Old Posted Feb 26, 2026, 3:51 PM
Biff's Avatar
Biff Biff is offline
What could go wrong?
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 9,669
I would think it would be to low and situated too far in the centre of the building to be noticed from the street...even at a distance.
__________________
"But a city can be smothered by too much reverence for its past. The skyline must keep acquiring new peaks, because the day we consider it complete and untouchable is the day the city begins to die." - Justin Davidson - May 2010 Issue of New York
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #898  
Old Posted Feb 26, 2026, 4:17 PM
cheswick's Avatar
cheswick cheswick is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: South Kildonan
Posts: 2,935
__________________
There are 10 kinds of people in this world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #899  
Old Posted Feb 26, 2026, 6:18 PM
Wpg_Guy's Avatar
Wpg_Guy Wpg_Guy is online now
Moderator
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Posts: 6,436
Those beams look great
__________________
Winnipeg Act II - April 2024

Winnipeg Developments

In The Future Every Building Will Be World-Famous For Fifteen Minutes.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #900  
Old Posted Feb 26, 2026, 6:52 PM
bomberjet bomberjet is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 15,809
If anyone can get a photo of the scaffold set-up on the interior, I'd like to see it for interests sake!
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada > Manitoba & Saskatchewan
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 2:01 AM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.