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Old Posted Oct 1, 2018, 2:46 PM
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I'm OBSESSED with these. I may have to get some copies myself, thanks for the share!

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So, I finally got at least a couple of my building elevations laminated. The City of Austin has most of the building elevations/site plans posted online, but not all. They also weren't required to archive them before 1975. It also seems that they've only just started digitizing the plans and posting them online during the last 15 years or so.
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As a way of collecting building heights, we've gone through the City of Austin pulling site plans from the internet to view the elevations, but for some reason, some projects that aren't even that old don't have their plans online.

So, a few years ago I contacted the planning department to do a records request so that I could see what they had. I sent them a list of everything I was looking for, and the guy gathered as much he could.

For most of the plans, I just snapped photos of them and jotted down the heights on a notepad.

But there were three in particular that I was most interested in since I hadn't been able to find them online. The Frost Bank Tower, One American Center and One Congress Plaza.

I also found out that I could purchase copies of them, which I didn't even realize until I got there.

I'm planning on maybe getting these framed also and putting a couple of them up on the wall, but they're pretty big. The one of the Frost Bank Tower here is 39 inches wide.



I haven't gotten the one for One Congress Plaza laminated yet. It's smaller than the other building elevations. I had to go to the Office Depot on West 5th because none of the locations had laminating machines big enough to accommodate the other elevations.



One Congress Plaza was another building we didn't have a good height for. We had always seen 391 feet listed for it. This is a copy of the original building elevations, and it shows it as 497 feet, but you have to subtract 100 feet from that number to get the actual height. So it's not quite 400 feet tall, but it's taller than we thought it was.



This shows the street level and plaza level. The sunken plaza drops 14 feet below the street level. So technically, counting from the plaza level, the building is 411 feet tall. It also "technically" has 31 floors when measured from the plaza level, although the floors aren't numbered that way.



Probably the one I was most excited about was the One American Center since it was always my favorite building in Austin as a kid and still is.





For a long long time the height we had always seen listed for the One American Center was 395 feet. I always assumed it was right, but after I was able to view the original building elevations for the building, I noticed that the "395 feet" people had been seeing was actually the sea level elevation of the top of the building, which is actually 895.50 feet. The sea level elevation of the southeast corner of the building at the street is 494.67 feet, meaning it's actually 400 feet 9 61⁄64 inches tall. It meant that Austin had already had a 400 foot tall building for about 30 years, and we didn't even realize it. The One American Center was the first building in Austin over 400 feet.

The elevations also showed what looked like either a lightning rod or maybe a mast structure for communications equipment that looks to be around 25 feet tall. I know there are several antennas up there, but I'm not sure if this structure is still there or not.

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Old Posted Oct 8, 2018, 9:15 PM
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I believe these first two are from the spring of 1974.

The Chase Bank Tower was there, but the Bank of America Center wasn't, which would indicate this was sometime in 1974 since the Bank of America Center was finished in 1975. The next photo shows some people flying a kite, so I'm guessing these were from March of 1974. You can also see the Ashbel Smith Hall under construction here, and it was completed in 1975.


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This is from sometime in 1975.


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Old Posted Oct 9, 2018, 1:22 AM
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5th & Congress - July 1967 - before the Bank of America Center replaced those buildings.


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In those 1974 photos, Austin could easily pass for a rust belt city in Upstate New York

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The Moody Bank Tower on 15th Street is missing. It was finished in 1981. Also, 700 Lavaca, which was finished in 1980 is missing. So I'd guess this was between 1975 and about 1978.


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February 5, 1941

Looking west down West 6th Street in the 400 block. The building on the right with the four turrets on the roof is where Sandra Bullock has her restaurant. The building in the foreground in front of it is gone now, replaced with the parking lot on the block where 6 X Guadalupe is going.

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The Moody Bank Tower on 15th Street is missing. It was finished in 1981. Also, 700 Lavaca, which was finished in 1980 is missing. So I'd guess this was between 1975 and about 1978.


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The gold cladding on the Chase Bank tower looks pretty cool. I'd imagine it wouldn't have aged well, as most of the gold 70s-80s buildings I've seen haven't.

But it would be cool to see a little gold glass again. It needs to be used carefully and in moderation, but I've seen some towers pull it off. A few of the Gensler renderings we've seen use gold accents. Hopefully they'll get one of those projects through.
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Aside from the 2 buildings mentioned not in this picture, this is the downtown I saw when I first arrived in Austin in '81. The Capitol building, BoA and the gold Chase bldg. dominated the photos I saw of Austin before moving here. I liked the golden glass, even been blinded by the reflection of the morning sun when traveling down I35. At the time, the skyline was good enough for me.
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What I remember most about the Chase Bank (formally known as Bank 1 in the 80s) is how bright it was when the sunlight reflected off it. Funny enough that's what drew me into liking highrises as a kid. That and the construction of One American Center, although I can only remember the stairstep portion being built. I was pretty sad to see the gold facade replaced.
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Old Posted Oct 11, 2018, 5:51 AM
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I'm also surprised how good 823 Congress looked back then. It was a pretty decent contributor to the skyline at the time. Now it just looks like a square easter egg with all that blue paint.
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Sometime in 1974 or slightly after. You can see the Chase Bank Tower in the background. It's sort of hard to tell, but it might have been under construction.


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1968 - notice the tennis courts and parking lot where the Dobie Center would be 4 years later.


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great shot of Cambridge tower.!
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2018, 8:09 PM
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Yeah, the Cambridge Tower was really groundbreaking for Austin at the time, both for its design and location. For the better part of a decade, it was the tallest between the Capitol and UT Tower. And it was the tallest residential building in Austin until the Westgate Tower was finished 2 years later.
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Not exactly "historic" since it isn't all that old, but it is kind of historic. This photo really shows the southwest side of downtown before the boom really got started. Actually, the redevelopment had already begun. This was from around 2000. The Blackwell-Thurman Criminal Justice Center is there on the left side. It was finished in 2001. I remember that building took forever to be completed because of problems with the interior mechanics. It broke ground in 1997 and took 4 years to complete. You can also see the site prep for the Silicon Labs and CSC Buildings along Cesar Chavez. They started construction in 2000. Based on the cloudy skies and dim sunlight and also the fact that the trees were either changing colors or didn't have any leaves, I'd say this was probably taken around Thanksgiving in 2000.


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There really wasn't much to brag about back then. Not including the buildings along Congress Ave. since they're not visible in this picture, the Goddess of Liberty seems to be the tallest structure as was once intended.
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I’m always amazed that it took so long for development to really reach the waters edge. For so long it seemed centered up by the Capital and UT.
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Not exactly "historic" since it isn't all that old, but it is kind of historic. This photo really shows the southwest side of downtown before the boom really got started. Actually, the redevelopment had already begun. This was from around 2000. The Blackwell-Thurman Criminal Justice Center is there on the left side. It was finished in 2001. I remember that building took forever to be completed because of problems with the interior mechanics. It broke ground in 1997 and took 4 years to complete. You can also see the site prep for the Silicon Labs and CSC Buildings along Cesar Chavez. They started construction in 2000. Based on the cloudy skies and dim sunlight and also the fact that the trees were either changing colors or didn't have any leaves, I'd say this was probably taken around Thanksgiving in 2000.


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Great picture! I'm thinking it was earlier than Fall of 2000. Here are a few shots I took back in January 2001. The east CSC building was up to 4 floors and the city building on Cesar Chavez/Guadalupe/Lavaca had already been demolished.



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Great picture! I'm thinking it was earlier than Fall of 2000. Here are a few shots I took back in January 2001. The east CSC building was up to 4 floors and the city building on Cesar Chavez/Guadalupe/Lavaca had already been demolished.



I agree. I moved here around Thanksgiving 2000, and Mopacs pictures are exactly as I remember it.
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Look how big the Hobby building looks in that last picture....walking thru downtown now, it looks so small and insignificant!
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