Canada's 10 Tallest U/C - Page 446

TorontoDrew · #1 Posted **Dec 9, 2025, 4:09 AM**

That portion of the skyline is giving off futuristic vibes.

Maldive · #2 Posted **Dec 4, 2025, 3:34 PM**

Forma | 308m | 84s | Great Gulf | Gehry Partners l Phase 1 u/c

Cladding reaching the 5th floor… stunning.

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Night magic.

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Maldive · #3 Posted **Dec 5, 2025, 7:39 PM**

Very sad news that Frank Gehry has passed away at the age of 96.

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TorontoDrew · #4 Posted **Dec 6, 2025, 12:22 AM**

Very sad news indeed.

koops65 · #5 Posted **Dec 6, 2025, 1:39 AM**

Yes very sad, and crappy he didn't live to see his tallest towers finished. RIP

TorontoDrew · #6 Posted **Dec 6, 2025, 10:33 PM**

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Yes very sad, and crappy he didn't live to see his tallest towers finished. RIP

Tallest, 8 Spruce is taller then phase one of Forma. That's two great architects that passed away before the completion of their Toronto projects. At least Mies got to see his tallest tower TD Tower complete before he passed.

Most of us can only dream of living that long in relatively good mental and physical health. Not to mention leave your mark around the world.

Nouvellecosse · #7 Posted **Dec 6, 2025, 2:33 AM**

Yes RIP. Amazing life and career.

96 is a very respectable lifespan though. Pretty small percentage of humans ever reach that and many who do don't retain their mental acuity.

J.OT13 · #8 Posted **Dec 8, 2025, 2:50 PM**

Too bad Canada doesn't have a whole lot of Frank Ghery designs. Froma, AGO expansion. Is that it?

WhipperSnapper · #9 Posted **Dec 9, 2025, 4:24 PM**

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Too bad Canada doesn't have a whole lot of Frank Ghery designs. Froma, AGO expansion. Is that it?

His tallest tower and a big budget civic project is adequate representation, IMHO. I could be bias though as , while I respect his work, it's not what I would ever commission. Also, They're so many great architects/ firms that have no representation anywhere in Canada.

Forma is surprisingly turning out to be a gem however, behind the unexpected glossy and crumpled facade are the same investor driven overvalued homes that occupy an exploding percentage of inventory across the city.

TorontoDrew · #10 Posted **Dec 9, 2025, 8:40 PM**

WhipperSnapper · #11 Posted **Dec 14, 2025, 5:06 PM**

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A gif for an argument? LMAO. My daughter has grown out of that!

I'm hopeful but, you can't deny the troubles are only going to get progressively worse for Toronto with that failed Brit running Ottawa and his continuation of wealth protectionism for himself, Trudeau, etc. amidst debt crushing budgets.

TorontoDrew · #12 Posted **Dec 14, 2025, 5:31 PM**

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I'm hopeful but, you can't deny the troubles are only going to get progressively worse for Toronto with that failed Brit running Ottawa

First of all, gifs are a lot more fun than just calling you Debbie Downer. I'm content with saying I will never grow out of using them. So your insult falls flat.

Second, I didn't know Fort Smith was part of Britain.

Maldive · #13 Posted **Dec 8, 2025, 4:45 PM**

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Maldive · #14 Posted **Dec 14, 2025, 2:27 AM**

Pinnacle One Yonge | 351.85m | 106s | Pinnacle | Hariri Pontarini l SkyTower u/c

Super… tall, and still climbing.

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Gresto · #15 Posted **Dec 15, 2025, 2:58 AM**

In Friday's Star, an article about Forma and Gehry mentioned that the supertall has been "paused" for now, but the developer fully expects it to be built once the market picks up again. With prices dropping, that might happen next year, but I'll leave it to the real-estate pros here to weigh in with their insights.

travis3000 · #16 Posted **Dec 15, 2025, 2:24 PM**

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In Friday's Star, an article about Forma and Gehry mentioned that the supertall has been "paused" for now, but the developer fully expects it to be built once the market picks up again. With prices dropping, that might happen next year, but I'll leave it to the real-estate pros here to weigh in with their insights.

Based on the current Toronto residential condo picture... I would be shocked if the 2nd tower goes into sales any earlier than 2028. Which would mean a 2029 ground breaking and a 2034 completion date. This is your best case scenario.

WhipperSnapper · #17 Posted **Dec 15, 2025, 5:41 PM**

The condo market is effectively dead for the first time in 30 years and the rental market is being held up by housing initiatives. The situation is not comparable to the numerous valleys during the boom that turned around into peaks with simple price reductions. This boom is over. Building to maximum densities is probably in the past given that every proposal is seemingly over 40 storeys in the vast downtown area and near transit stops.

I would not bet on a supertall with 1100 units to sell if this is released by 2028. They'll probably just sit on it past 2028 but, at some point, pressure to build or get out and write down the losses will mount.

travis3000 · #18 Posted **Dec 18, 2025, 9:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

The condo market is effectively dead for the first time in 30 years and the rental market is being held up by housing initiatives. The situation is not comparable to the numerous valleys during the boom that turned around into peaks with simple price reductions. This boom is over. Building to maximum densities is probably in the past given that every proposal is seemingly over 40 storeys in the vast downtown area and near transit stops.

I would not bet on a supertall with 1100 units to sell if this is released by 2028. They'll probably just sit on it past 2028 but, at some point, pressure to build or get out and write down the losses will mount.

Another possibility is that they partner with a high end hotel to take 30-40 floors (this market is still healthy). My bet is that this tower gets built.

WhipperSnapper · #19 Posted **Dec 29, 2025, 5:16 PM**

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Another possibility is that they partner with a high end hotel to take 30-40 floors (this market is still healthy). My bet is that this tower gets built.

Only if the bulk of the floors are serviced apartments which I don't know would sell right now. 100 to 150 hotel suites is the goldilocks zone and only need approximately 10 floors. 400 plus hotel suites is massive.

Gresto · #20 Posted **Dec 15, 2025, 11:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by travis3000

Based on the current Toronto residential condo picture... I would be shocked if the 2nd tower goes into sales any earlier than 2028. Which would mean a 2029 ground breaking and a 2034 completion date. This is your best case scenario.

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper

The condo market is effectively dead for the first time in 30 years and the rental market is being held up by housing initiatives. The situation is not comparable to the numerous valleys during the boom that turned around into peaks with simple price reductions. This boom is over. Building to maximum densities is probably in the past given that every proposal is seemingly over 40 storeys in the vast downtown area and near transit stops.

I would not bet on a supertall with 1100 units to sell if this is released by 2028. They'll probably just sit on it past 2028 but, at some point, pressure to build or get out and write down the losses will mount.

Pretty bleak outlook.