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Old Posted Mar 13, 2021, 12:35 AM
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It comes down to road design.
You don’t want people pretending that the speed limit’s in mph in a school zone? Design it so that people can’t go fast.
Maybe, initially there’ll still be a few reckless ones, but eventually that number will come down.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2021, 12:44 AM
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If you want higher speed limits, then make the fines higher for speeding. Instead of a fine for 25 or 30 over, set the fine for a given speed based on the current 100km speed limit. Whatever the fine for 125 is now in a 100 zone, that's the fine for whatever the new speed limit is. That will cut down on the "20 over" crowd and cause cops to feel it's worthwhile to pull someone over.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2021, 2:00 AM
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The faster you go, the longer it's gonna take to stop the car. So if you are moving at 130km/h, with 1sec of reaction time, you will need 131m to stop.
If you are moving at 100km/h, you will only need 84m. That is a 47m difference. The faster you drive, the more distance you need to have with the car in front of you, and crash stats have proven that drivers do not follow that rule.
I know that. Most drivers don't. The problem is that people think that gap in front is where they can squeeze in. When I tow a trailer, that gap is for stopping.

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If you want higher speed limits, then make the fines higher for speeding. Instead of a fine for 25 or 30 over, set the fine for a given speed based on the current 100km speed limit. Whatever the fine for 125 is now in a 100 zone, that's the fine for whatever the new speed limit is. That will cut down on the "20 over" crowd and cause cops to feel it's worthwhile to pull someone over.
$225 for 20 over? Worth risking it. However, $2250, much less. What should happen is all fines under 50 over, add a zero at the end. 50 and over, not only the fines and suspension, but you get to press the button on the crusher making your car a pancake. You're not the owner? Great. The owner stands beside you as you press the button making it a pancake. The reality is drivers do not care about speeding. So, lets raise the speed limits to what they should be, but also, lets raise the fines to be a deterrent.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2021, 3:22 AM
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What? why are you making this into something personal? What are you trying to say here?
He's trying to say that you have no idea what you are talking about and insist on doing so.

As for Montreal, whatever...keep on getting offended and making my point
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2021, 3:32 AM
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The speed limits should add least change during nice conditions to allow to NO speed limit in the passing line on freeways in rural areas like the autobahn. It's 2021. Make it smart.

Make the driving exams harder like the Germans do. Or have a separate license for the pussies that hog the left lane that will keep them out of it.
     
     
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The speed limits should add least change during nice conditions to allow to NO speed limit in the passing line on freeways in rural areas like the autobahn. It's 2021. Make it smart.

Make the driving exams harder like the Germans do. Or have a separate license for the pussies that hog the left lane that will keep them out of it.
Actually, if we simply enforced the laws, and then fixed the issues with speed limit and not keeping right, we would have some good roads, and good drivers.

I have always thought that when your license is up for renewal, you should be required to do a written and road test to keep it. Guaranteed to reduce traffic congestion.
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2021, 2:13 PM
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/kicking-horse-canyon-construction-1.5948068
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Highway 0.979 ( ) to the left, Highway 95 to the right...
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2021, 3:27 PM
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He's trying to say that you have no idea what you are talking about and insist on doing so.

As for Montreal, whatever...keep on getting offended and making my point
You are just a worthless troll with a sour attitude.

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Old Posted Mar 13, 2021, 3:36 PM
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If you think speed limits are too high due to damages in an accident, then you must only allow yourself to drive vehicles with the highest safety rating. Otherwise your false narrative is just that.

It is not a simple scaled thing.
It is not a false narrative. But thanks for being judge, jury and executioner. Going forward I will refrain from commenting in any thread where you control the conversation.
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Yep we can benefit from higher speed limits on certain stretches of roads. Highway design and vehicle safety have improved over the years along with fuel economy.

Obviously don't raise them in busy areas... they should reserved to lightly used stretches outside of major cities without too many inclines, curves, obstructions, etc.

It would also be good to have some variable speed limits too. Ex- 130 on a calm summer day, 110 in light rain, 80 in heavy fog/snow/thunderstorms. Also these signs could remind drivers to stay alert and not tailgate.

It's crazy how Alberta has high speed limits on highways with at-grade intersections. I see that as a recipe for disaster. Only the best designed roads should get speed limits over 100.
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Old Posted Mar 13, 2021, 7:28 PM
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Yep we can benefit from higher speed limits on certain stretches of roads. Highway design and vehicle safety have improved over the years along with fuel economy.

Obviously don't raise them in busy areas... they should reserved to lightly used stretches outside of major cities without too many inclines, curves, obstructions, etc.

It would also be good to have some variable speed limits too. Ex- 130 on a calm summer day, 110 in light rain, 80 in heavy fog/snow/thunderstorms. Also these signs could remind drivers to stay alert and not tailgate.

It's crazy how Alberta has high speed limits on highways with at-grade intersections. I see that as a recipe for disaster. Only the best designed roads should get speed limits over 100.
Someone needs to invent smart speed limit signs depending on the conditions. Could make a killing!
     
     
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If the governments and people against higher speed limits were REALLY concerned about potential higher speed limits than they must agree with speed regulators like we have on school buses.

If our current speed limit is 100 km/hr than why do we allow cars to potentially go 160 km/hr or higher? Why do we not put regulators on the cars like buses where the cars top out at 100?

Of course any politician that suggests such a logical solution would quickly find themselves on the unemployment line. We are very two-faced about the whole thing.

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I used to support higher speed limits on highways, I didn't think they would make highways more dangerous, especially outside cities, but seeing all these attacks on MolsonExport because he disagreed with the idea that, not only would higher speeds not make highways more dangerous, they would actually make highways safer, makes me wonder if I was wrong. Such aggression and higher speed limits cannot be a good combination.
     
     
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Someone needs to invent smart speed limit signs depending on the conditions. Could make a killing!
Already been done in the UK.
     
     
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Already been done in the UK.
We have these in BC already.
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Yep we can benefit from higher speed limits on certain stretches of roads. Highway design and vehicle safety have improved over the years along with fuel economy.

Obviously don't raise them in busy areas... they should reserved to lightly used stretches outside of major cities without too many inclines, curves, obstructions, etc.

It would also be good to have some variable speed limits too. Ex- 130 on a calm summer day, 110 in light rain, 80 in heavy fog/snow/thunderstorms. Also these signs could remind drivers to stay alert and not tailgate.

It's crazy how Alberta has high speed limits on highways with at-grade intersections. I see that as a recipe for disaster. Only the best designed roads should get speed limits over 100.
The problem is a blanket speed limit. For example, should the 401 all be the same speed? I would say no. There are parts that should be lower than the existing limit. There are also parts that could be much higher with no ill effects. Some even should have signs that change due to conditions, like in Carnage Alley.

AB has a max speed of 100km/hr on their back roads, and in ON it is 80km/hr. Why?

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Someone needs to invent smart speed limit signs depending on the conditions. Could make a killing!
They exist all over the world. In fact, certain parts of BC/TC 1 has them.

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If the governments and people against higher speed limits were to REALLY concerned about potential higher speed limits than they must agree with speed regulators like we have on school buses.

If our current speed limit is 100 km/hr than why do we allow cars to potentially go 160 km/hr or higher. Why do we not put regulators on the cars like buses where the cars top out at 100?

Of course any politician that suggests such a logical solution would quickly find themselves on the unemployment line. We are very two-faced about the whole thing.
Because outside of the jurisdiction have higher speeds. Imagine Crossing the continent in Canada, and then back into the USA, and passing through Montana with a 80mph limit and stuck at 65mph.

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I used to support higher speed limits on highways, I didn't think they would make highways more dangerous, especially outside cities, but seeing all these attacks on MolsonExport because he disagreed with the idea that, not only would higher speeds not make highways more dangerous, they would actually make highways safer, makes me wonder if I was wrong. Such aggression and higher speed limits cannot be a good combination.
My issue is people think that speed kills. Speed does not kill, but is a contributing factor to it. What we need to look at are the other factors as well. How fast is fast enough, and how slow is too slow? Rush hour speeds in most major cities average less than the speed limit, yet lots of crashes happen then. Why is that? Maybe we should fix that before artificially lowering or unnecessarily raising the speed limit.

There is a local road that used to be 80km/hr to 70km/hr. The traffic speed is now 90km/hr instead of 100km/hr. Had they simply enforced the existing laws traffic would be going 80km/hr instead of 90km/hr.

If the police don''t have quotas, maybe they should.
     
     
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Don't even need a half-million changeable message sign. A static billboard could work to show variable speed limits like this one commonly used on French highways.

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Wow that signage...
Highway 0.979 ( ) to the left, Highway 95 to the right...
So excited for this.
     
     
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BREAKING: The federal government has decided it will step in and take over the environmental assessment of the Ford government's Highway 413 project.

This is huge news. Many believe this decision will effectively kill the project as the fed EA is much more rigorous. #onpoli

https://twitter.com/EmmaMci/status/1389261778165669894

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Feds take charge of environmental assessment for controversial Highway 413

Ottawa has taken charge of the environmental assessment for the Ford government’s contentious Highway 413 project, but will leave a second controversial highway plan in Ontario’s hands.

The 413 ⁠— which has come under increased scrutiny over its environmental impact in recent months ⁠— will now be subject to a longer and more rigorous review. Many believe this effectively spells the end of the project. The planned highway, the subject of a National Obsever/Torstar investigation published last month, would run through the protected Greenbelt.

"Canadians expect their governments to make decisions based on science and evidence that support environmental protection and economic growth," said federal Environment Minister Jonathan Wilkinson in a statement explaining the decision Monday.


https://www.nationalobserver.com/2021/05...tal-assessment-controversial-highway-413
     
     
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Old Posted May 3, 2021, 6:31 PM
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Waste of taxpayers’ money at the end of the day? Unfortunately yes.
At least ONPC can say “been there, done that”.
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