Winnipeg Construction X

[Bdog]

Originally Posted by trueviking

Need an architect with lots of experience in that sector and a strong knowledge of the local industry?

He said condos out in the burbs. You'd refuse to work in the burbs on principle, no?

[trueviking]

Nope.

[Biff]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

This is crazy to me, strip and pad footings are good for up to 5 or 6 storeys here, but a house needs a 20m friction pile in Winnipeg. Saskatchewan is slightly better from my limited experience, but still requires heavy use of piles.

What do you guys do for tower foundations here, friction piles under a raft slab?

Caissons down to and embedded in bedrock. Most of downtown has bedrock in the 40-60 foot range.

[wardlow]

Originally Posted by esquire

In other news, I noticed some work going on with the facade of the Orange Order hall on Princess... anyone know what's happening there?

Woah, just looked into this and it's being converted to residential with commercial on the ground floor. Apparently it's 61 units, so it must include the adjacent building to the south (at the corner of Princess and Ross).

Hope they keep the giant mural of William of Orange triumphantly charging across the Boyne that's up on one of the floors...

[drew]

Originally Posted by Calgarian

This is crazy to me, strip and pad footings are good for up to 5 or 6 storeys here, but a house needs a 20m friction pile in Winnipeg. Saskatchewan is slightly better from my limited experience, but still requires heavy use of piles.

What do you guys do for tower foundations here, friction piles under a raft slab?

20m - hopefully you meant 20-feet...

But yes for a house a friction pile (16" dia.) would typically be between 20 and 30 feet long, depending on the load and if it's subject to frost.

Bigger buildings are mostly on driven pre-cast concrete piles.

That's usually good for residential midrises (up to 10 storeys).

Beyond that or for really heavy loads, like Biff said, it's rock-socket caissons drilled into the bedrock. The sky is the limit for that type of foundation.

Raft slabs make me nervous (i.e. like what's under the Bow)...it's like wedging sandbags along the base of a post and calling it a day. Obviously it works, but it's not something familiar around these parts.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by wardlow

Woah, just looked into this and it's being converted to residential with commercial on the ground floor. Apparently it's 61 units, so it must include the adjacent building to the south (at the corner of Princess and Ross).

Hope they keep the giant mural of William of Orange triumphantly charging across the Boyne that's up on one of the floors...

Thanks, wardlow... that's amazing news. We've been hearing rumours about that building for years, but it's great to hear that something is finally happening. That block of buildings has incredible potential, and with all of the development happening around it I guess its time has finally come.

What I especially like about this news is that so much of the development around there has taken place a little off Princess itself while Princess remains a bit of a drab stretch of road. Having something like this will help to invigorate the streetscape and make it a more pleasant place to be.

In related/nearby news, anyone know what's going on in the main floor of the Edge on Princess? JELD-WEN moved out a little while back but when I passed by there on Monday I noticed some guys walking around in there doing something. Hopefully someone's moving in?

[Labroco]

Originally Posted by wardlow

Woah, just looked into this and it's being converted to residential with commercial on the ground floor. Apparently it's 61 units, so it must include the adjacent building to the south (at the corner of Princess and Ross).

Hope they keep the giant mural of William of Orange triumphantly charging across the Boyne that's up on one of the floors...

I believe this is being done by Halter.

We will have to wait and see if there have been any sucessful RFPs generated from CV on the Paulin’s site to the West. I am interested to know if it’s been historically designated as of yet.

[esquire]

When is something going to happen with J. Werier/Cockshutt Plow further up the street? That building looks like it could be a jewel.

[wardlow]

Originally Posted by esquire

When is something going to happen with J. Werier/Cockshutt Plow further up the street? That building looks like it could be a jewel.

Judging by a couple of the owner's other properties (here and here), I would say not any time soon.

By the looks of things, this is a holding company that specializes in buying up beautiful old buildings and sitting on them until they fall over.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by wardlow

Judging by a couple of the owner's other properties (here and here), I would say not any time soon.

By the looks of things, this is a holding company that specializes in buying up beautiful old buildings and sitting on them until they fall over.

Good grief.

Can someone explain this business strategy to me? Just sitting on valuable, developable assets for decades while not generating any revenue from them?

[cheswick]

What's going on with Mathewson House / Butta Bing! Didn't they paint over that green?

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by esquire

Good grief.

Can someone explain this business strategy to me? Just sitting on valuable, developable assets for decades while not generating any revenue from them?

Buy low, sell high. If you got the money.

[dmacc]

Originally Posted by drew

20m - hopefully you meant 20-feet...

But yes for a house a friction pile (16" dia.) would typically be between 20 and 30 feet long, depending on the load and if it's subject to frost.

Bigger buildings are mostly on driven pre-cast concrete piles.

That's usually good for residential midrises (up to 10 storeys).

Beyond that or for really heavy loads, like Biff said, it's rock-socket caissons drilled into the bedrock. The sky is the limit for that type of foundation.

Raft slabs make me nervous (i.e. like what's under the Bow)...it's like wedging sandbags along the base of a post and calling it a day. Obviously it works, but it's not something familiar around these parts.

I seem to remember the Stradbrook apartments were all piles, no caissons. That's going to be 18 storeys.

[bomberjet]

Stradbrook had a forest of piles. Connected with a pile cap.

[bomberjet]

The City is prioritizing these 4 projects for federal funding.
◾The North End Water Pollution Control Centre (NEWPCC) Upgrade: Headworks Facilities Project;
◾The North End Water Pollution Control Centre (NEWPCC) Upgrade: Biosolids Facilities Project;
◾The South Winnipeg Recreation Campus: Phase One – Recreation Centre Project; and
◾The St. James Civic Centre – Facility Expansion Project.

https://winnipeg.ca/cao/media/news/n...20190911.stm#1

Is this under a different program then the projects they prioritized over the last year or two? Which were chief Peguis, Marion, etc.

[drew]

Originally Posted by dmacc

I seem to remember the Stradbrook apartments were all piles, no caissons. That's going to be 18 storeys.

There are exceptions. But generally speaking, something approaching 20 stories is going to have caissons.

If they can make pre-cast driven piles work, they will of course (much cheaper).

[bomberjet]

http://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/DMIS/perm...0917(RM)ETC-31

Development at Kimberly and London is back before the EK committee. The locals didn't like the original proposal. Building was reduced in height from 5 to 4 stories. Units down from 100ish to 84. Basically the same thing but a touch smaller.

Seriously what a crock of shit. A reduction of like 20 units is make or break here for the locals. Not my bone to pick. But impacting someone's ability to make money because you think it's too much. Then allowing virtually the same thing to go through. Get bent.

[davequanbury]

Originally Posted by wardlow

Woah, just looked into this and it's being converted to residential with commercial on the ground floor. Apparently it's 61 units, so it must include the adjacent building to the south (at the corner of Princess and Ross).

Hope they keep the giant mural of William of Orange triumphantly charging across the Boyne that's up on one of the floors...

Funny story (to me at least), I was in a rock bank in high school and our manager lived in the Orange Hall with that mural in his living room. He recorded us in there on a 4-track and we named the album Orange Mescal.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

Buy low, sell high. If you got the money.

So when does the selling part happen?!

[blueandgoldguy]

Originally Posted by Winnipegger

Those are the perks of living in this country's cheapest city and the city with the largest percentage of its budget dedicated to the police and fire departments in Canada. The services and capital budget has been eroding for quite some time, and given the constraints, most departments elect to cut as many "non-essential" line items as possible before touching the essential front line services. However, the city's budget will soon be at a place where, without significant change, almost all the nice stuff and extras provided will be cut and we'll start seeing reductions in essential and front line services.

So as long as taxpayers are okay with this - Winnipeg being the "bargain bin" of Canada, then it will continue down this path and we will see little change. Expect more community centres to shut down, less streetscaping, less park maintenance and grass cutting, less bike lanes, abandoned prevention measures to save our urban forest, no more fixing bridges, no more overpasses, no more road widening, no pedestrian bridges, no new fire or police stations, no electric buses, and most of all, no more legs of rapid transit.

Fixed.