Chief William Commanda Bridge (former Prince of Wales Bridge)

[sleye]

Originally Posted by OtrainUser

Wouldn't make sense since you have to live in Gatineau to buy the monthly pass which is the the only thing that is cheaper to buy.

Long after I moved to Gatineau from Ottawa I had to show ID to prove that I lived there to get the monthly pass. Before that I used to ride my bike to work.

This is a local myth. You don't need to live in Gatineau to buy the monthly pass. I live in Ottawa and got a pass. You still need to show ID to get it, but that's just to verify your identity since they are creating a photo ID.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by sleye

This is a local myth. You don't need to live in Gatineau to buy the monthly pass. I live in Ottawa and got a pass. You still need to show ID to get it, but that's just to verify your identity since they are creating a photo ID.

That's the first time I have heard of this. Generally speaking STO is quite strict when giving out ID cards and passes. My kids are teenagers and have never lived anywhere but Gatineau, always at the same address, study in Gatineau, and yet have to provide proof of residence in Gatineau and proof of enrolment every year in order to get new student ID cards from the STO.

I suspect that if a lot of people too advantage of (what looks like) a loophole, it would be closed pretty quickly.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

If this was the main rail link the numbers alighting at Bayview would be dwarfed by those arriving from Gatineau. The easiest way would be to charge a bit extra for use of OCtranspo network. The $20-$30 price difference between and OCtranspo and STO pass seems like a fair amount. With such a price difference there might start to be a lot of leakage anyway towards Ottawa residents buying STO passes.

Sorry to say this again but that's not a politically workable option.

[Gat-Train]

Originally Posted by YOWetal

If this was the main rail link the numbers alighting at Bayview would be dwarfed by those arriving from Gatineau.

Again it wouldn't be the main one. A connection at Bayview and one at Rideau would be ideal, since you would avoid overwhelming any single transfer point.

[OtrainUser]

Originally Posted by Acajack

That's the first time I have heard of this. Generally speaking STO is quite strict when giving out ID cards and passes. My kids are teenagers and have never lived anywhere but Gatineau, always at the same address, study in Gatineau, and yet have to provide proof of residence in Gatineau and proof of enrolment every year in order to get new student ID cards from the STO.

I suspect that if a lot of people too advantage of (what looks like) a loophole, it would be closed pretty quickly.

You are 100% correct so I have no idea how he got his monthly sto pass if he lives in Ottawa.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by OtrainUser

You are 100% correct so I have no idea how he got his monthly sto pass if he lives in Ottawa.

I believe the STO used to have an "Ontario resident" pass that had some limitations on its use. But I think they may have phased it out when they moved to electronic cards with photos, which require photo ID with address at the moment of issuance.

[Horus]

There appears to be nothing on STO's website indicating that you need proof of residency to purchase a Multi card or monthly pass.
It does state that proof of enrollment in a qualifying educational institution is needed to get student passes.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Horus

There appears to be nothing on STO's website indicating that you need proof of residency to purchase a Multi card or monthly pass.
It does state that proof of enrollment in a qualifying educational institution is needed to get student passes.

I actually need to renew my kids' student cards in the next few days (they run from Sept. 30 to Sept. 30) so I will ask the STO people the question.

Stay tuned!

[OCCheetos]

https://twitter.com/JonathanWilling/...291419654?s=19

Well.





We haven't heard from MOOSE in a while, but once the bridge officially goes up for abandonment that'll be their last chance to save their project. I'm not expecting anything to happen though..

[lrt's friend]

Study shows Bayview Station would be overloaded if the bridge was used as an interprovincial rail connection, Watson says.

Isn't this what I have been saying all along? When I have compared this to Bloor-Yonge, I wasn't comparing raw passenger volumes but the capacities of the C-Line and T-Line infrastructure available at Bayview and the impact of a potential bottleneck on the overall network.

[zzptichka]

It would be overloaded if was the only link. Why does it have to be though?

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by zzptichka

It would be overloaded if was the only link. Why does it have to be though?

The cost of building multiple rail links especially if integration with the C-Line was considered critical for each link.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by zzptichka

It would be overloaded if was the only link. Why does it have to be though?

It can never be anything other than the cherry on top once the true backbone of the system is built with a crossing or crossings in more logical practical locations like Portage and/or Alexandra-Rideau.

[OCCheetos]

Originally Posted by Acajack

It can never be anything other than the cherry on top once the true backbone of the system is built with a crossing or crossings in more logical practical locations like Portage and/or Alexandra-Rideau.

From everything else that was reported from the press conference, the idea of Alexandra sounds dead.

Jon Willing put it as "Portage Bridge or bust".

[lrt's friend]

Originally Posted by OCCheetos

From everything else that was reported from the press conference, the idea of Alexandra sounds dead.

Jon Willing put it as "Portage Bridge or bust".

Portage makes perfect sense. Only one link keeping construction costs reasonable, directs passengers into downtown Ottawa lessening impact on the C-Line and provides a rail link for those heading in the reverse direction to the federal complexes in downtown Hull.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by OCCheetos

From everything else that was reported from the press conference, the idea of Alexandra sounds dead.

Jon Willing put it as "Portage Bridge or bust".

And IIRC most of the latest stuff being put out by STO or the Ville de Gatineau is now showing Portage as opposed to Alexandra-Rideau.

[Harley613]

The trains could come in under the new Centraql Library and connect to Pimisi Station. Is that the idea?

[IMG]Untitled by harley613, on Flickr[/IMG]

[zzptichka]

Originally Posted by Harley613

The trains could come in under the new Centraql Library and connect to Pimisi Station. Is that the idea?

Unless something changed since June, they want Sparks or Wellington.

[PHrenetic]

Originally Posted by zzptichka

Unless something changed since June, they want Sparks or Wellington.

Good Day.

Yep....Sparks or Wellington.

And NCC is never going to agree to Wellington, either surface or underground.

Sparks will work underground only as far as Lyon Station, between Bay - Lyon - Kent, easily. But No Farther than Kent (reason: we're not allowed to know).

Sparks will work surface as far as:
: between any of Bay - Lyon - Kent, easily.
: between any of O'Connor - Metcalfe - Elgin, only if both NCC and Ott agree to a massive Sparks St. do-over (which it could use, anyway - different discussion).

As for the T-Line going over to Terrasses de la Chaudière, to serve as best and easily and cheaply as possible the most customers possible
(transfer to/from Rapibus at Tache, civil servants at TdC, and the north of Zibi) for minimal cost, at a good trade for giving STO it's LRT to Lyon........
be it known that Jimmy has never ever liked having the PoW, and has looked to just have it disappear from his sight ASAP, in any way possible, ever since becoming mayor and inheriting it.

Now with Ottawa-Centre candidate Catherine McKenna setting the tone, he sees his way out. Collusion ? (oh, right, i'm paranoid !) IMHO -

NoJoy!

[rocketphish]

Mayors rule out Prince of Wales Bridge for transit link
The bridge should be cyclist and pedestrian connection, mayors say

CBC News
Posted: Sep 24, 2019 8:23 PM ET | Last Updated: 26 minutes ago

The Prince of Wales Bridge will never carry trains again, the mayors of Ottawa and Gatineau declared Tuesday, asking the next federal government to help them turn it into a cycling connection instead.

Mayor Jim Watson said Tuesday afternoon the bridge is not the right choice for a light rail transit connection.

"It would congest too much Bayview station and secondly Gatineau has been pursuing their LRT project and they too have ruled it out as a bridge that would be used for transit," he said.

Gatineau Mayor Maxime Pedneaud-Jobin agreed.

"The studies that have been conducted in the last few months are very clear, the Prince of Wales Bridge could not be used for the connection between Ottawa and Gatineau," he said, adding they believe the Portage Bridge is the best place to connect the two communities.

The City of Ottawa owns the span and purchased it for $400,000 in the mid 2000's with the goal of turning it into a railway bridge. Watson said city staff recognize the earlier investment, but it still doesn't make sense as a transit connection.

Both mayors are hoping the federal government will step in and help fund an estimated $10 million in work to turn the bridge into a pedestrian and cycling crossing. The bridge is currently a frequent target of trespassers and the city has spent funds to fence the entrance.

Liberal candidates in the region pledged earlier in the campaign to push for the funding.

In addition to asking for funds for the Prince of Wales Bridge, the two mayors want federal parties to commit to continued funding for transit, social housing and infrastructure.

Climate change was also top of mind. Pedneaud-Jobin said the floods and tornadoes that have hit the region in the last few years have been a major challenge, one they can't afford to pay for out of municipal coffers.

He said the federal government also needs large cities to make real progress on climate change.

"You can't make the environment better without cities," he said. "The federal government can not tackles its challenges without us."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...idge-1.5296186