[Halifax] Queen's Marque | 30 m | 10 fl | Completed

[Colin May]

The developer failed to exercise due diligence in choosing the metal.....so he sues the seller.
Make one wonder 'whatever happened to due diligence'.

[Nouvellecosse]

I kind of like the effect from a purely aesthetic perspective but if it's "deteriorating" then I'm sure that could be a problem. We don't want to see the panels develop holes or fall off lol.

[Drybrain]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

I kind of like the effect from a purely aesthetic perspective but if it's "deteriorating" then I'm sure that could be a problem. We don't want to see the panels develop holes or fall off lol.

It wouldn’t be so bad except that the most deteriorated panels are the ones with all the custom engraving, which is hard to read in some places now. Hopefully this ends with the panels being replaced (and somehow made more resilient?)

Also possibly a lesson in the extreme overuse of road salt.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Thanks for the photos. That looks kinda bad, actually.

Here's an interesting NRC study from 1967:
Corrosion behaviour of sheet copper and muntz metal in eight Canadian atmospheres: a five-year progress report

A heavy patina
had developed on the copper panels exposed at the Halifax
site by the end of five years. The brass appearance of the
muntz metal by this time had completely disappeared, and
the specimens looked somewhat similar to those made from
copper sheet.
The weight losses and the corrosion rates of the
copper and muntz metal specimens exposed at the different
sites are given in Tables I I and I II, respectively. From
these tables and Figures 2 and 3 it is seen that the Halifax
site (site No.4) has provided the severest exposure condition
by far. The sulphur dioxide content of its atmosphere (Figure
1) is much higher here than at any other site and this
no doubt accounts for much of the corrosiveness. The copper
sheet withstood this particular environment considerably
better than the muntz metal. The weight loss of the latter
metal is almost twice that of the copper after five years
of exposure.

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by Drybrain

Also possibly a lesson in the extreme overuse of road salt.

I highly doubt that would have had much to do with this considering that 3/4 of the area is not facing a roadway and that is one that would not get significant salt application anyway. They are all adjacent to salt water, however, which is the likely culprit.

[OldDartmouthMark]

I’m having trouble concluding that road salt is the culprit, especially given that its most common use is in marine environments (i.e. exposure to salt water). That said, it is typically used in a functional capacity, so aesthetics would be less important.

The study posted above suggests that sulfur dioxide is the likely cause of corrosion, though one would think that those levels would be less today than 1967. Certainly humidity must factor into this as well, as water must be present for corrosion to occur.

[Arrdeeharharharbour]

20240825_142554 by AJ Forsythe, on Flickr

[OldDartmouthMark]

Not that I'll ever get a chance to use this information, but I've been curious about how docking privileges are determined on the waterfront, like the Queen's Marque pic above. Is it just like on-street parking whereby if there's a space open you can tie up there, or do reservations have to be made or permissions have to be granted?

[Arrdeeharharharbour]

Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark

Not that I'll ever get a chance to use this information, but I've been curious about how docking privileges are determined on the waterfront, like the Queen's Marque pic above. Is it just like on-street parking whereby if there's a space open you can tie up there, or do reservations have to be made or permissions have to be granted?

Registered users can call ahead and book space. Registering and booking can occur at the same time if you're a new user. If a space is booked there will be a small on-dock sign indicating the size of the boat and the booked dates. Otherwise, it's first come first served. A boater who wishes to overnight must pay a per foot cost plus plus if they want to have water and/or power hook-ups. It does happen that there simply are no spots available to dock. Personally, if I want to go downtown for dinner I will want to go by boat...given the car parking cost and availability.

[OldDartmouthMark]

Thanks for the info, Arrdee! Now I know! 😊

[Dartguard]

Originally Posted by Arrdeeharharharbour

Personally, if I want to go downtown for dinner I will want to go by boat...given the car parking cost and availability.

Well well, aren't you Romantic . Teasing aside that sounds like a really enjoyable way to approach and explore Downtown. Now if Global warming would just extend the season...

[IanWatson]

SSP meetup on Arrdee's boat?

[Arrdeeharharharbour]

Our harbour with its islands, beaches and waterfronts and in particular the downtown Halifax waterfront is truly a gem. Friends from Seattle who were here on a cruise ship visit last week were saying that they wished that their waterfront could be more like ours. Seattle has a major highway cutting their downtown off from their waterfront. Thankfully we (narrowly) avoided that fate.

[connect2source]

Originally Posted by Arrdeeharharharbour

Our harbour with its islands, beaches and waterfronts and in particular the downtown Halifax waterfront is truly a gem. Friends from Seattle who were here on a cruise ship visit last week were saying that they wished that their waterfront could be more like ours. Seattle has a major highway cutting their downtown off from their waterfront. Thankfully we (narrowly) avoided that fate.

That highway in Seattle you're referring to, the Alaskan Way Viaduct, was thankfully removed a few years ago. Seattle's waterfront is vastly improved as a result, still not nearly as nice as Halifax or Vancouver's but getting there.

[q12]

The Muir Hotel has recently been upgraded to Marriott's highest level (Luxury brand) from The Autograph Collection to The Luxury Collection. This luxury brand is the same level as the The Ritz-Carlton.



https://the-luxury-collection.marriott.com/

https://muirhotel.com/

[Colin May]

Originally Posted by Nouvellecosse

I kind of like the effect from a purely aesthetic perspective but if it's "deteriorating" then I'm sure that could be a problem. We don't want to see the panels develop holes or fall off lol.

The simple solution would have been to hire a metallurgist to provide advice on the material and how to test the metal in the same environment as the property location or in a lab where the environment can imitate the outside environment.... Lawyers will make a nice sum before this is settled.