[Moncton] Northwest/Magnetic Hill Developments

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by mylesmalley

Build it for 1000 and have 720 show up and you get criticized.

It's tough to plan for, particularly when you have older neighborhoods that have schools well below capacity like EC downtown.

I do agree but I was looking at Schools like Queen Elizabeth School on Lynch Street, and Birchmount School on Ayer Avenue, they are built in a way that expansion could be done easily with prefab classroom segments. but then you look at Schools Like Mathieu-Martin/Carefour De L'acadie, and Bernice MacNaughton High School (Practically the same floor plan), and you can expand but it takes much more work even the new Moncton High School despite having the land available if they ever wanted to expand instead of adding a new High School for any reason the building itself seems to have been planed in case expansion was needed but the floor plan not so much creating more work, and in turn creating the need for those very crappy portables. portables should only be a temporary solution while a more permanent one is put into play. École Sainte-Bernadette for example they used portables attached to the old building while the new one was being built.

[josh_cat_eyes]

Originally Posted by Budyser

They also appear to be working on a mirror image of this zone on the flip side of North/West (Walmart side). This will again free up the whole 4 lane to traffic once again.

Originally Posted by Budyser

Umm, maybe an overhead pedestrian crosswalk in the year 2030! Or even better, maybe they saved the old overhead pedestrian crosswalk from Highfield Square to Dominion Building.

I believe I posted something about the Walmart side when I seen them surveying it with stakes sometime last summer. Regarding the crossing, I think a pedestrian crossing over Wheeler from behind Walmart, with a path leading to the bus stop should be made first. As it stands, there is a well beaten path from the traffic light on Trinity, down across wheeler and up the the hill along Walmart. I know myself, people that work in the area talk about the nuisance of having to walk down to Mapleton and then back up for the bus, especially in the winter. And I know personally I've taken the path to go to McDonalds at lunch rather then driving, the whole Trinity area is quite frankly VERY pedestrian unfriendly.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by josh_cat_eyes

I believe I posted something about the Walmart side when I seen them surveying it with stakes sometime last summer. Regarding the crossing, I think a pedestrian crossing over Wheeler from behind Walmart, with a path leading to the bus stop should be made first. As it stands, there is a well beaten path from the traffic light on Trinity, down across wheeler and up the the hill along Walmart. I know myself, people that work in the area talk about the nuisance of having to walk down to Mapleton and then back up for the bus, especially in the winter. And I know personally I've taken the path to go to McDonalds at lunch rather then driving, the whole Trinity area is quite frankly VERY pedestrian unfriendly.

The entire Trinity/Plaza area is nothing more then an accident waiting to happen not because of the developments but because of the roads, and pedestrian ways to get around in the area. I have friends who work in the area, and all of them have said the type of crosswalk that they have on Plaza seems to be "just a suggestion" Instead of an actual crosswalk that tells people to stop because people are crossing. I've seen a few cars fly by while the lights are flashing, and there are people crossing. they don't stop, and will slam on there horn despite being the one in the wrong.

and your right Josh it is very pedestrian unfriendly, and seems to be the new way for cities to develop. It's sad to see.

I will say I don't think anything will be done ti'll someone losses there life.

Look at McLaughlin Road where kids cross to get to the School , or home from school. A 14 year old girl lost her life then the city put up a crosswalk. But ignored the citizens outcries for one to be installed before someone was killed.

[MonctonRad]

There are a number of requests for variances before the September meeting of the Moncton PAC regarding the next phase of the Jonathan Park subdivision.

For those who are uncertain where this is actually located, this is the subdivision on the other side of Ryan Street at the Evergreen Drive intersection.



The dark grey areas on the above site plan are already built. The light grey areas are planned



As you can see from the above image, the next phase (the northwest corner of the development) is planned to be duplexes and town homes. I wonder how the current residents feel about this since the housing stock is currently detached single family homes.......

It may not matter since there are already a lot of duplexes on the nearby portion of Evergreen Drive, but it would be interesting to know if the residents knew this was the ultimate plan when they purchased their lots.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

There are a number of requests for variances before the September meeting of the Moncton PAC regarding the next phase of the Jonathan Park subdivision.

For those who are uncertain where this is actually located, this is the subdivision on the other side of Ryan Street at the Evergreen Drive intersection.



The dark grey areas on the above site plan are already built. The light grey areas are planned



As you can see from the above image, the next phase (the northwest corner of the development) is planned to be duplexes and town homes. I wonder how the current residents feel about this since the housing stock is currently detached single family homes.......

It may not matter since there are already a lot of duplexes on the nearby portion of Evergreen Drive, but it would be interesting to know if the residents knew this was the ultimate plan when they purchased their lots.

Personally I don't think it would make such a difference From the photos, and plans despite being semi's, and townhouses they seem to fit in it the rest of the neighborhood, and the townhouses seem to be hidden away by either trees, or shrubs from the rest of the development. I do find it a little odd that they want Rosenberg, and Dury to be 1 ways. But other then that it seems to fit well. Also even if people where unaware of the potential expansion you have to remember it's one of the fastest growing residential areas in the city currently.

[MonctonRad]

Current status of Evergreen Plaza on Mountain at Gorge Road


source: https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t...1d2931bc413bc1584eadc6f4c94c&oe=58824DF0

Still no word on tenants, but the largest (leased) unit on the left looks more like a service rather than a retail operation (just judging from the interior partition work).

[MonctonRad]

The new pedestrian/cycling bridge on the Rabbit Brook Trail is now apparently open.

[Scarface]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Current status of Evergreen Plaza on Mountain at Gorge Road


source: https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t...1d2931bc413bc1584eadc6f4c94c&oe=58824DF0

Still no word on tenants, but the largest (leased) unit on the left looks more like a service rather than a retail operation (just judging from the interior partition work).

This strip might be stuck with only 1 tenant for a while unfortunately. It seems Commercial units are being built quicker then the previously built ones get tenanted.

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

The new pedestrian/cycling bridge on the Rabbit Brook Trail is now apparently open.

Din't see any machinery still around so that's a good sign. The bridge looks good.

[MonctonRad]

Foundation work is now ongoing for the new Dexter Construction/Fero Waste Management project in the Moncton Industrial Park (West).

[porchmouse]

Happy Turkey Day!

Check out this drone video of Autumn in Moncton North. Embedding the video is not working right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr3u0PjpAOY

Cheers,

[MonctonRad]

Great video porchmouse.

I'll embed the URL for you.

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Essentially to embed the video, you take the last part of the Youtube video URL (everything after the = sign), and place it between the open and close [youtube] tags.

[MonctonRad]

While we're at it, I found another couple of interesting drone videos on Youtube of the northwest end.

The first one is of the Carson Drive area, with an interesting overview of the Rabbit Brook Trail. The second one is of the Magnetic Hill area.

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[porchmouse]

Thanks MonctonRad...those are indeed also my husband's drone videos.

Thanks for the tips!

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

While we're at it, I found another couple of interesting drone videos on Youtube of the northwest end.

The first one is of the Carson Drive area, with an interesting overview of the Rabbit Brook Trail. The second one is of the Magnetic Hill area.

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[MonctonRad]

Shannex has Big Plans for the northwest end, specifically that little stubby Louis J Robichaud Blvd that runs off of Mapleton Road. This development will be immediately behind the Mapleton Centre.

I present you with Shannex Parkland Moncton!!



This is a huge project. Look carefully and amongst other things you will find not one, not two, not three but four 10 storey buildings!!!

It might actually be more than that. The buildings labelled Lifestyle #5, 6, 7 & 8 have the same number of beds as the first four lifestyle buildings, and a similar footprint. As such, although not explicitly stated, there may be as many as eight 10 storey buildings in this development.

All totalled, there will be 931 units in this project!!

For anyone still confused where this is, here is the locating map:

[Ammn_guy]

Wowsers thats like the population of sussex at build out.


[QUOTE=MonctonRad;7593796]Shannex has Big Plans for the northwest end, specifically that little stubby Louis J Robichaud Blvd that runs off of Mapleton Road. This development will be immediately behind the Mapleton Centre.

I present you with Shannex Parkland Moncton!!

[mmmatt]

Woah that's massive!

I wish density like that could go up on Assumption Blvd instead but I suppose "downtown living" isn't high on the priority list for the prospective clientele.

I remember a while back the government was touting a plan for more special care beds and whatnot but this is way more than I expected...I figured a the new place on John St in addition to the UdeM facility being built now would be most of it.

Would love to see some renders if they have any, especially the potential 10 story buildings...this may turn out to be a master plan type deal that takes 30 years to fill out but I'm hoping we at least see a couple of the highrise ones go up...there is certainly a market for this facility in NB and something like this could draw folks in from other areas as well.

[Ifyoubuildit]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

Shannex has Big Plans for the northwest end, specifically that little stubby Louis J Robichaud Blvd that runs off of Mapleton Road. This development will be immediately behind the Mapleton Centre.

I present you with Shannex Parkland Moncton!!



This is a huge project. Look carefully and amongst other things you will find not one, not two, not three but four 10 storey buildings!!!

It might actually be more than that. The buildings labelled Lifestyle #5, 6, 7 & 8 have the same number of beds as the first four lifestyle buildings, and a similar footprint. As such, although not explicitly stated, there may be as many as eight 10 storey buildings in this development.

All totalled, there will be 931 units in this project!!

For anyone still confused where this is, here is the locating map:

Wouldn't this even give more reason for Costco to do their relocation off of Mapleton? Would this potentially give Costco three dedicated and controlled traffic lights along Mapleton? Day and Ross, Lady Ada and now LJR Blvd? Would this massive seniors complex attract more young families to shop, eat, stay in the area when they visit their parents or grandparents at the Shannex facility? What other spin offs could there be? Maybe a school in here some time or the north end recreational facility?

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Ifyoubuildit

Wouldn't this even give more reason for Costco to do their relocation off of Mapleton? Would this potentially give Costco three dedicated and controlled traffic lights along Mapleton? Day and Ross, Lady Ada and now LJR Blvd?

Yes, with the extension of LJR Blvd to the east, and with an interconnecting back street (planned), you would certainly have three signalized egress points for Costco shoppers if they built on the Day and Ross site. A planned move by Costco to Harrisville would be so wrong on so many levels.....

Originally Posted by Ifyoubuildit

Would this massive seniors complex attract more young families to shop, eat, stay in the area when they visit their parents or grandparents at the Shannex facility?

Maybe. This is a seniors complex, and senior citizens are not the biggest shoppers in the world, but you're right in the sense that if the seniors live in an interesting neighbourhood with shops and restaurants, these businesses could benefit from family outings.

Originally Posted by Ifyoubuildit

What other spin offs could there be? Maybe a school in here some time or the north end recreational facility?

The Shannex Moncton Parkland project will be the linchpin and impetus needed to kickstart the entire "vision lands" project. Who knows where things will go from here, especially after LJR Blvd is extended to McLaughlin. Ultimately new neighbourhoods will be built with shopping nodes and schools. Hopefully there will be a "grand plan" with appropriate density housing, walking trails, interconnected parkland and active transportation routes.

As far as the proposed northwest community centre (funding in place for 2018), I would think that the citizens in the Evergreen/Kingswood area would take considerable umbrage if their neighbourhood were overlooked for the location of this facility. It is the citizenry of this particular neighbourhood who have been so active in demanding recreational facilities for the northwest end.....

[pierremoncton]

From Toronto, here's a 9-storey "Lifestyle" wing of a recently proposed Shannex "Parkland" development:



Note that the building's shape matches the outline seen in the Moncton proposal. Let's hope that we get quality buildings here too. And hopefully that'll challenge other developers to become more audacious downtown too.

Photo source:
http://urbantoronto.ca/news/2016/08/retirement-community-proposed-build-toronto-eglinton-site
http://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/parkland-eglinton

[MonctonRad]

Thanks Pierre. I would expect that Shannex will be building something like that here in Moncton. One way to decrease your costs is to use a boilerplate template on most of your projects. If this design works in Toronto, it'll certainly work in Moncton.

In terms of rollout, Shannex is building the majority of their UdeM project in one fell swoop. I would think the the Parkland Moncton development might be similar. I imagine the "lifestyle" buildings 5-8 might be a phase two, but I'm willing to bet the remainder of the project will be built all at once.