Winnipeg Construction X

[EndIt]

Originally Posted by post_man

Incredible, fantastic. Very literally, when looking at ATLRG's renderings.

Were the drawings more realistic? This project is dead-dead, right? This was flashy and ambitious, but you say it was looking credible... surely not in this form though? The renovation next door at 90 seemed to be going well for a while, what's the news there?

Long-time lurker here: my sister used to work in environmental consulting and she says that the soil under that triangle is hopelessly contaminated from a midcentury garage or gas station that used to occupy it. Huge, huge remediation costs will likely keep the spot vacant for a while, especially cause they can't use underground parking to fill the hole after excavating all the contaminated dirt.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by EndIt

Long-time lurker here: my sister used to work in environmental consulting and she says that the soil under that triangle is hopelessly contaminated from a midcentury garage or gas station that used to occupy it. Huge, huge remediation costs will likely keep the spot vacant for a while, especially cause they can't use underground parking to fill the hole after excavating all the contaminated dirt.

Interesting insight. But to play the devil's advocate for a moment, numerous gas station sites in Winnipeg have been remediated over the years... how is this one any worse?

PS: Welcome to the forum!

[borkborkbork]

Originally Posted by EndIt

Long-time lurker here: my sister used to work in environmental consulting and she says that the soil under that triangle is hopelessly contaminated from a midcentury garage or gas station that used to occupy it. Huge, huge remediation costs will likely keep the spot vacant for a while, especially cause they can't use underground parking to fill the hole after excavating all the contaminated dirt.

And how did the property owner not know that a former gas station would have contaminated soil? Why did we have to tear down an actual building with a business in it and turn it into an illegal parking lot to learn that former gas stations need remediation?

This drives me crazy.

Would it be possible for the city to extend the Vacant Building Fee to vacant land? Make it costly for people to sit on empty land in perpetuity? Incentivize owners to either build or sell to someone who will?

It seems a lot of deep pocketed people/families here think of land as a safe asset to hold for generations, no rush to develop, and all the costs of vacant/undeveloped land are borne by everyone else/the city as a whole.

Examples:

- This triangle lot on Albert
- The Reiss-owned lot at Kennedy and Assiniboine
- The gap on Portage next to Don's Photo
- The half-excavated pit on Osborne next to Osborne Station

[Coil]

Originally Posted by borkborkbork

the confusion corner building is hilarious.

the city is obviously not serious about holding developers to any sort of standard. imagine trying to get this building approved in any other major city

I think this building is unfairly maligned, at least from a design point of view.

Yes it's hyper-minimal and not to everyone's taste, but there's a clarity and simplicity that I admire. Those corner strip windows are hot.

I think the reason it's an eyesore has more to do with the owner's refusal to finish it, the terrible signage they've allowed, and their inability to fill the building with tenants. Maybe it was just a hopeless location, made even more hopeless by the pandemic and declining demand for office space. I imagine those deep floor plates would make conversion to residential pretty difficult to do well.

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by EndIt

Long-time lurker here: my sister used to work in environmental consulting and she says that the soil under that triangle is hopelessly contaminated from a midcentury garage or gas station that used to occupy it. Huge, huge remediation costs will likely keep the spot vacant for a while, especially cause they can't use underground parking to fill the hole after excavating all the contaminated dirt.

if that's the case, he shouldn't have been allowed to demolish the heritage building that was on the site....any contamination would have been identified before receiving a demolition permit.

[Authentic_City]

Interesting tidbit send out to the UW community today:

"The Facilities department has been advised that work on a seven-story apartment block to be constructed at 380 Young Street will begin this month.

Bockstael Construction will be closing Young Street at varying stages of this project. The tentative dates are as follow:
• 1-lane closure – December 14th, 2022, to December 30th, 2023 (13 months)
• 2-lane closure – March 1st, 2023, to December 30th, 2023 (10 months)"


Has this been discussed at all? Anyone have the scoop?

[zalf]

Affordable housing project, I think backed by one of the treaty organizations' development corp.

[thebasketballgeek]

^Paragon’s working on that one. 67 unit building with 28 units designated as “affordable.” They’re even putting more bike parking then actual car parking for once (56 vs 35).

https://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/dmis/Vie...5&isMobile=yes

I really hope the West End is finally heading in the right direction.

Speaking of West End, what’s going on with 634 Portage, and that other highrise next to Downtown Commons?

[trueviking]

image here.

https://380young.com/

[esquire]

It's a building.

[WinCitySparky]

Originally Posted by thebasketballgeek

^Paragon’s working on that one. 67 unit building with 28 units designated as “affordable.” They’re even putting more bike parking then actual car parking for once (56 vs 35).

https://clkapps.winnipeg.ca/dmis/Vie...5&isMobile=yes

I really hope the West End is finally heading in the right direction.

Speaking of West End, what’s going on with 634 Portage, and that other highrise next to Downtown Commons?

I believe last updates were that both are still inching through the back end processes toward “still happening”.

[1ajs]

Manitoba Indigenous Cultural Education Centre expansion

https://www.micec.com/news_details.p...EDTNgK0uPMdHoU

[esquire]

^ That's really nice. I love how the expansion forms a street wall.

[thebasketballgeek]

Bridgman Collaborative really does outstanding work in the city. I have nothing but good things to say about Rae Bridgman and her group. I mean not many people have the confidence to have their headquarters situated on Main & Higgins, but for her that's a source of pride.

[OTA in Winnipeg]

^Unfortunately knocking down a perfectly good three storey apartment block to achieve this.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/11...8!4d-97.127515

[post_man]

Originally Posted by OTA in Winnipeg

^Unfortunately knocking down a perfectly good three storey apartment block to achieve this.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/11...8!4d-97.127515

I guess apartments are apartments but still, look how they massacred my boy




http://www.mhs.mb.ca/docs/sites/sutherlandcourt.shtml

Put it out of its misery.

[Arcticwolf]

I came across the owner of that block. She tells me it's not for sale. Maybe she doesn't want to tell me the whole story.

The proposal looks sharp overall.

[Malcsta]

.....aaand I'd like to divert our attention back to the St. Regis site proposal. A friend of mine who works at hydro has informed me the site is being prepared for "something big". Take this anecdote with a grain of salt!!

[Doogie5]

Originally Posted by Malcsta

.....aaand I'd like to divert our attention back to the St. Regis site proposal. A friend of mine who works at hydro has informed me the site is being prepared for "something big". Take this anecdote with a grain of salt!!

Isn’t it going to be a high rise residential?

[OTA in Winnipeg]

Originally Posted by post_man

I guess apartments are apartments but still, look how they massacred my boy

Easy to restore it to what it looked like.