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Old Posted Feb 23, 2024, 7:47 PM
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Population today-estimated*, (vs. 1996**)
Newfoundland and Labrador 542,060 (551,792)
Prince Edward Island 176,790 (134,557)
Nova Scotia 1,073,111 (909,282)
New Brunswick 847,349 (738,133)
Quebec 9,014,523 (7,138,795)
Ontario 15,946,096 (10,753,573)
Manitoba 1,481,467 (1,113,898)
Saskatchewan 1,229,086 (990,237)
Alberta 4,826,891 (2,696,826)
British Columbia 5,626,583 (3,724,500)
Yukon 45,326 (30,766)
Northwest Territories 44,454 (39,672)
Nunavut 40,950 (24,730)
Canada 40,894,702 (28,846,761)

*Canada population clock: https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/...018005-eng.htm

**https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...cal_population
Ranked percentage growth 1996-2024

1) AB - 79.0%
2) NU - 65.6%
3) BC - 51.1%
4) ON - 48.3%
5) YT - 47.3%
6) MB - 33.0%
7) PE - 31.3%
8) QC - 26.2%
9) SK - 24.1%
10) NS - 18.0%
11) NB - 14.8%
12) NT - 12.1%
13) NL - (-1.18%)
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2024, 7:36 AM
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The most incredible thing for me in this data is that not a single province recorded an increase in median population age from 2022-2023. If the estimates are accurate, PEI and Nova Scotia got 0.7 years younger in the span of 12 months. Manitoba and Saskatchewan, already the youngest provinces, got even a little younger. Even Newfoundland dropped 0.1 years. The only province that didn't record a drop in median age was Alberta, but given the population boom of late there, I'd be surprised if the numbers next year don't record a drop there too. It's quite a shift from years past. Only the territories got older, but they can sort of afford it, being so young already.
This lack of increase in median age is due to immigration, a large proportion of immigrants are between the ages of 30 and 34 years, or younger. We've become tired and selfish as potential progenitors, like many other developed countries with continually decreasing birthrates, our modern urban society has no immediate need for large families (or does it?), but the cycle of success is self perpetuating, with new immigrants also likely to experience lower birthrates.
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Canada, per the population clock, will hit 40,900,000 million people today.
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Ranked percentage growth 1996-2024

1) AB - 79.0%
2) NU - 65.6%
3) BC - 51.1%
4) ON - 48.3%
5) YT - 47.3%
6) MB - 33.0%
7) PE - 31.3%
8) QC - 26.2%
9) SK - 24.1%
10) NS - 18.0%
11) NB - 14.8%
12) NT - 12.1%
13) NL - (-1.18%)

Some really insane numbers. The feeling of growth is palpable here in BC. Everywhere in the Lower Mainland and Kelowna is quite a bit busier than before.

I'm bummed to see that Newfoundland still lost population during this national population explosion. Is the issue from Newfoundlanders still leaving in droves? How many immigrants are moving to the rock annually?
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2024, 7:23 PM
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I'm bummed to see that Newfoundland still lost population during this national population explosion. Is the issue from Newfoundlanders still leaving in droves? How many immigrants are moving to the rock annually?
The time period used by Molson was 1996-2024. The population loss in NL was mostly from 1995-2010, and, a good part of this was due to the cod moratorium. Recently NL has been growing again.
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This lack of increase in median age is due to immigration, a large proportion of immigrants are between the ages of 30 and 34 years, or younger. We've become tired and selfish as potential progenitors, like many other developed countries with continually decreasing birthrates, our modern urban society has no immediate need for large families (or does it?), but the cycle of success is self perpetuating, with new immigrants also likely to experience lower birthrates.

That's a rather sanctimonious way to put it. Birthrates are rapidly falling throughout the developed world as well (and that's certainly not a bad thing either - exponential natural growth can't be sustained forever) - it's a natural outcome of increasing urbanization, better access to contraceptives, and lower infant mortality.

More recently in Canada, birthrates have dropped precipitously as the cost of living has soared. Nevermind "selfishness", being able to have kids is increasingly coming to be seen as a luxury reserved for the rich. Our birth rates are now dropping not because we want them to, but because there are too many barriers to having children - it's worth noting that the gap between desired and actual fertility rates is growing as a result (the reported desired fertility rate is 2.2; while the actual is 1.4).
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NL's population has been a bit of a roller coast over the past 30 years. Lost population after the cod mortarium then started growing again in the mid 2000's to the mid 2010's then started losing population again in the mid 2010's up to the last couple of years where it started growing again.

Basically up until the last 5 years NL has not really had any international immigration.
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Be nice to see NL finally get over the 600k hump. They should up the provincial "baby bonuses" to help make it happen
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Ontario, Alberta, BC and Quebec are all very impressive adding millions of people.
I don’t see anything impressive there.

Now, if infrastructure, housing, GDP per capita, adjusted wages, healthcare, social services, education, could actually keep up rather than degrade, then that could potentially be noteworthy and somewhat impressive.

But just allowing new suckers in? It’s nothing impressive as an accomplishment. It’s the opposite, it’s incredibly easy and effortless.
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Canada, per the population clock, will hit 40,900,000 million people today.
By my reckoning, Canada should reach 41M people by April Fools Day.

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Saskatoon is rapidly pulling away from Regina, in the big city sweepstakes in Saskatchewan. When I was a kid, Regina was significantly larger than Saskatoon.

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Saskatoon 317,480 (295,095 in 2016)
Regina 249,217 (236,695 in 2016)
Horse poo the stats you posted here are from ten years ago , Regina gained 10,000 new immigrants in the last year so stop spreading shit
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The fact that Ontario has grown by almost 60% in 30 years is.. insane. It's even more insane when you realize the infrastructure serving those 6 million or so extra people is almost the same as it was in 1996..
Agreed. Not only that but some of the existing infrastructure in Ontario is literally falling apart. Even with all the currently planned public transit and highway projects built (which will take 10+ years), it won't be enough to serve today's population. This is a travesty that's not worth celebrating, and the fanboys here seem to completely block out that reality.
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I don’t see anything impressive there.

Now, if infrastructure, housing, GDP per capita, adjusted wages, healthcare, social services, education, could actually keep up rather than degrade, then that could potentially be noteworthy and somewhat impressive.

But just allowing new suckers in? It’s nothing impressive as an accomplishment. It’s the opposite, it’s incredibly easy and effortless.

https://x.com/daniel_foch/status/176...264333734?s=20

I wonder if the Sudanese and Syrians are also on message boards patting themselves on the back about their "impressive" population growth numbers.
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https://x.com/daniel_foch/status/176...264333734?s=20

I wonder if the Sudanese and Syrians are also on message boards patting themselves on the back about their "impressive" population growth numbers.
At least we now even have Australian Youtubers flagging the pitfalls of Canada's population trap:


Why Canada Can't Solve It's Population Problem with Immigration
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Horse poo the stats you posted here are from ten years ago , Regina gained 10,000 new immigrants in the last year so stop spreading shit
The fact still remains that Saskatoon is outpacing Regina and has been for a while now.
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Horse poo the stats you posted here are from ten years ago , Regina gained 10,000 new immigrants in the last year so stop spreading shit
The only horse poo round here is what you trailed in.

Those are 2021 census data, so not yet three years old. And it's entirely possible that Regina added 10,000 in the last year, but if it did, Saskatoon is still growing faster. "A new report before the city’s governance and priorities committee estimates the municipal population grew between 12,500 and 15,300 people from July 2022 to June 30, 2023.

Administration based its estimate on what’s called postcensal data from Statistics Canada, accounting for births, deaths and immigration in that time period.

According to the federal data, Saskatchewan added 30,685 net new residents, with Saskatoon claiming nearly half." [CTV] And that's just for the city - not the CMA. Now go and wipe your shoes outside.
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That's a rather sanctimonious way to put it. Birthrates are rapidly falling throughout the developed world as well (and that's certainly not a bad thing either - exponential natural growth can't be sustained forever) - it's a natural outcome of increasing urbanization, better access to contraceptives, and lower infant mortality.

More recently in Canada, birthrates have dropped precipitously as the cost of living has soared. Nevermind "selfishness", being able to have kids is increasingly coming to be seen as a luxury reserved for the rich. Our birth rates are now dropping not because we want them to, but because there are too many barriers to having children - it's worth noting that the gap between desired and actual fertility rates is growing as a result (the reported desired fertility rate is 2.2; while the actual is 1.4).
It's a natural outcome which is unsustainable, and it's not that sanctimonious to decry. People do what they have to do, and what benefits them. In the old days (i.e. before technology made us all sedentary) people were lazy and selfish too, but in different ways. To be self-sustaining they had large families to work on the farms, in fisheries, resource industries, and family businesses, etc.; child labour was a normal thing, and old age homes were not where you put grandma, people relied upon having children for their own benefit. That was also selfishness in a way; it isn't always a bad thing if it's a matter of survival or continuity. Now, we aren't even having enough babies to replace ourselves, and IMO there is something very wrong with that, so blame whomever you will, but mostly it's a product of lifestyle, and is akin to China's one child policy, a demographic disaster. Immigration isn't a bad thing, migration is a normal geopolitical process, but it should not be crucial to sustain a nation's populace, that's a simple logistical fact. Efficiency-wise, there are also many flaws in our system which have negative consequences, as evidenced in the video above; it's full of intentional loopholes such as diploma mills, and foreign students buying mansions with no income, which just adds more complication to the associated problems.
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https://x.com/daniel_foch/status/176...264333734?s=20

I wonder if the Sudanese and Syrians are also on message boards patting themselves on the back about their "impressive" population growth numbers.
Canada, a top (?bottom?) five country again!!!!

That's a damning list of countries to be associated with.

Maybe somebody should copy this list and sent it to JT for his comments.........
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Horse poo the stats you posted here are from ten years ago , Regina gained 10,000 new immigrants in the last year so stop spreading shit
WARNING: You will be taking a vacation from SSP the next time you engage in this sort of personal attack. You can disagree in a way that does not involve an ad hominem attack.
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