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Old Posted May 6, 2022, 4:06 AM
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that might be the average new construction detached home or something like that...but 2,400 square feet would be large for a home built even 30 years ago...

https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn...age-of-a-house
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Old Posted May 7, 2022, 2:54 PM
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^Homes sizes took off after banks started accepting duel incomes. Up until about 1970, only the higher of a couple's two incomes counted toward the purchase or construction of a home.

Unfortunately, few two-income families with the ability to buy a large house have the discipline to buy a relatively small one and thereby save on utilities, property tax, etc.
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Old Posted May 9, 2022, 6:07 PM
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Speaking of real estate in my city.
Has anyone saw this ultra-NIMBY excuse before?
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Those who flock to the sands of Bay 1 on Riis beach — including a historically Black and brown community of trans and queer sunbathers — fear tearing down a long-abandoned medical center that acted as a shield will ruin their “utopia.”
https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/5/8/230...al-queer-beach

Using abandoned building as a shield for sunbathing > new habitable building. I believe thats a NIMBY first.
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Old Posted May 9, 2022, 10:44 PM
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$23 million budget to demolish, hard to believe they can't fix it instead. It's a 100+ year old building and it seems to look solid enough...
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Old Posted May 10, 2022, 12:54 PM
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This thread seems like as good a place as any for this:

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‘The Office As We Know It Is Over,’ Says Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky

Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky recently announced that the company’s employees will be able to work from anywhere, including (for up to three months) overseas. He also abolished location -based pay, at least within the U.S. In the days following the announcement, Airbnb’s recruiting page received a million visitors. The company, which laid off a quarter of its staff during the pandemic, also released first quarter earnings that closely matched pre-pandemic levels.

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I think that the office as we know it, is over. It’s kind of like an anachronistic form. It’s from a pre-digital age. If the office didn’t exist, I like to ask, would we invent it? And if we invented it, what would it be invented for? Obviously, people are going to still go to hospitals and work, people are going to still go to coffee shops and work—those spaces make complete sense. But I think that for somebody whose job is on a laptop, the question is, well, what is an office meant to do?
https://time.com/6174653/airbnb-ceo-...sky-interview/


"If X didn't exist, would we invent it?" is a great question to ask in general.

I believe the problem isn't so much the office, but the absolutely insane and wasteful practice of commuting. It may be that the whole idea of human beings living in one place and working in a completely different place, traveling between them every day, ends up a short-lived practice that began in the late 19th century and ends in the early 21st century. Historians will see it as something that was done during a specific period when technology had advanced to the point that people could physically travel dozens of miles each day (trains, cars) but not yet to the point where this became unnecessary (telepresence, virtual reality, holograms).
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Old Posted May 10, 2022, 2:39 PM
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I don't think these end of the office ideas will stand the test of time.

Also, I think people want flexibility, and not the end of in person collaboration. There's a huge difference.
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Old Posted May 10, 2022, 3:13 PM
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^These sorts of articles are just advertisements for Airbnb, which is itself a ridiculous concept that might not stand the test of time once people snap out of their hypnosis and hope finally fails to spring eternal.

Just last week we had the host of a $2,500/night Airbnb cancel our bachelor party stay and the organizer of the party had to scramble to find a new venue. A hotel (or traditional renter of vacation properties) never would have done that.

Airbnb has de-professionalized the management of vacation rentals, with often disastrous results. Likewise, be quite careful of what you wish for so far as the de-professionalization of office "work".

And for whatever reason it continues to be needed to be said that tons of people - the vast majority - will still need to commute every day to physical jobs. The people writing anti-office jobs have often never had to do actual physical work and so think the world is just a toy.
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$23 million budget to demolish, hard to believe they can't fix it instead. It's a 100+ year old building and it seems to look solid enough...
I am guessing they will be expanding zoning for the park. Since the buildings were abandoned for like 20 years there was no need to have a facility there anymore. There is already a nursing home nearby and they have a hospital as well.
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Old Posted May 10, 2022, 8:07 PM
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last time i posted, it was a $1.4M dollar SFH "rich people housing" from my neighborhood, now we go back to my old "regular people housing" program.

here's a nice 2 bed/2 bath 2nd-floor unit in a 3-flat a couple blocks away from me that just came on the market. the price is nice!



2711 W Giddings St APT 2, Chicago, IL 60625
2 bed | 2 bath | 1,600 SF
$390,000

zillow link: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/2...89936744_zpid/








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That is a great unit for $390k
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Old Posted May 10, 2022, 8:48 PM
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here's a nice 2 bed/2 bath 2nd-floor unit in a 3-flat a couple blocks away from me that just came on the market. the price is nice!

2711 W Giddings St APT 2, Chicago, IL 60625
2 bed | 2 bath | 1,600 SF
$390,000
Very nice!

Here's one in SF for about the same price.

1400 Mission St APT 405, San Francisco, CA 94103
2 bed | 2 bath | 913 sq ft
$392,616

https://goo.gl/maps/3UobK8a98jEMkVPn8

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...41585098_zpid/





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That is a great unit for $390k

Yes, nice unit for the price. And it's just a few-block walk to a Nepalese restaurant!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/27....6967071?hl=en

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Very nice!

Here's one in SF for about the same price.

1400 Mission St APT 405, San Francisco, CA 94103
2 bed | 2 bath | 913 sq ft
$392,616

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...41585098_zpid/

Why is it so cheap?
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Old Posted May 10, 2022, 9:04 PM
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Why is it so cheap?
It's a BMR (below market rate) place, needs to be at 100% AMI (area median income). Maximum income for 2 people = $106,550; 3 = $119,900; 4 = $133,200, etc. Must be 1st-time homebuyer & income eligible.
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Old Posted May 10, 2022, 9:16 PM
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^ what would a market rate unit like that cost in that part of San Francisco without all of the income, 1st time buyer, and resale restrictions?

I'm asking because $390K sounds absurdly low for a 2 bed/2 bath in central SF.
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It's a BMR (below market rate) place, needs to be at 100% AMI (area median income). Maximum income for 2 people = $106,550; 3 = $119,900; 4 = $133,200, etc. Must be 1st-time homebuyer & income eligible.
Yeah I'd imagine the line must be astronomical. Similar to say NYC's affordable housing lottery. If somebody checks all those boxes on the application, the luck of getting a unit probally sucks.

But... if one can get a unit like that, BMR or Affordable... all the luck to them.
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Old Posted May 10, 2022, 9:25 PM
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^ what would a market rate unit like that cost in that part of San Francisco without all of the income, 1st time buyer, and resale restrictions?

I'm asking because $390K sounds absurdly low for a 2 bed/2 bath in central SF.
Here's a couple examples of non BMR restricted 2 bed/2 bath condos within what can be considered the downtown core. Looks like it'd be about double the price.

946 Stockton St APT 14B, San Francisco, CA 94108
2 bed | 2 bath | 710 sq ft
$790,000

https://goo.gl/maps/5hiNF6G3ufx9JFM1A

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/9...15067625_zpid/



601 Van Ness Ave APT 351, San Francisco, CA 94102
2 bed | 2 bath | 1,015 sq ft
$759,000

https://goo.gl/maps/4VCLacUj1SruYPX98

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6...15077875_zpid/



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^ gotcha.

That makes much more sense.
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It's a BMR (below market rate) place, needs to be at 100% AMI (area median income). Maximum income for 2 people = $106,550; 3 = $119,900; 4 = $133,200, etc. Must be 1st-time homebuyer & income eligible.
Yeah, I knew that couldn't possibly be market rate.
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Very nice!

Here's one in SF for about the same price.

1400 Mission St APT 405, San Francisco, CA 94103
2 bed | 2 bath | 913 sq ft
$392,616

https://goo.gl/maps/3UobK8a98jEMkVPn8

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/1...41585098_zpid/





It look's like a workplace break room.
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