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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 2:47 PM
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So this may have been brought up before, but what are they buidling next to the Daley Plaza?
     
     
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Thanks BVic for pointing this out. I'm all for trying new things but agree with whoever said this guy is nuts. Plumbing, electrical, HVAC, sprinklers, & phone & TV all on rotating connections on every floor??? What a maintenance nightmare!!!
Technically this is possible. All you would need to do is have one central core that would stay fixed, with floorplates around that central core that would rotate (with kitchens, bathrooms, etc. in the fixed part).

However technically this is NOT feasible (there's a big difference between "feasible" and "possible"). And the reason isn't utility connections, etc.... it's energy consumption. This would consume enormous amounts of energy to rotate an entire floorplate, nevermind 60 floorplates. A revolving restaurant consumes quite a lot of energy... I can't imagine an entire building.
     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 3:24 PM
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So this may have been brought up before, but what are they buidling next to the Daley Plaza?
here you go: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=52443
     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 4:54 PM
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Tower twirls and debate starts to swirl
i think everything kamin said is spot on. chicago aint dubai.
     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 5:01 PM
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Hey, if the financials work.....cool.
     
     
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Hey, if the financials work.....cool.
its like what was said in the article, this is "extreme" architecture. its just doing something outrageous for the sake of it. its all a novelty, nothing of real substance.
     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 5:21 PM
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Sorry to disappoint - there is development here, but... it's just a remodelling to turn the building into a La Quinta, and it's ugly as hell. The building will expand onto the parking lot to add 27,000 sq. ft. to the building's current 93,000.

This concept has been cancelled. Its still a LaQuinta, but thankfully they have been talked out of the god awful Schuamburg on steroids expressway interchange design. The building will be remodeled to its original look, and a expansion of the structure will occur on the surface lot next door. I don't belive any parking will be included, hotels of this size are not required to provide any.
     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 5:31 PM
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its like what was said in the article, this is "extreme" architecture. its just doing something outrageous for the sake of it. its all a novelty, nothing of real substance.
Let's give this guy a chance and see what he comes up with.
     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 5:33 PM
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Hey, if the financials work.....cool.
I agree. I doubt that the financials would work, but if they were able to, I'd be all for a building of this nature.
     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 6:52 PM
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its like what was said in the article, this is "extreme" architecture. its just doing something outrageous for the sake of it. its all a novelty, nothing of real substance.
What's wrong with that? The difference between Chicago and Dubai is that here, they have to consider whether the numbers work, whereas Dubai is just a playland for architects and planners. So if the numbers work out and it gets built here, what's wrong with that?
     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 7:18 PM
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Extreme is no equal for excellence

By Blair Kamin
Tribune architecture critic
Published May 6, 2007


It is too early to say anything definitive about the possibility of a Chicago skyscraper where one floor would rotate independently of the other, creating an ever-shifting silhouette. No site-specific plans exist. No site has even been selected. Such a skyscraper promises to be an eye-grabbing exercise in hip-swiveling hoochie-coochie. Sexy? Yes. Yet the thrill could wind up being cheap.

In a broader sense, the idea is disturbing because it encapsulates a trend that has come to define the way buildings are made and marketed these days: Extreme architecture. By that, I do not mean buildings of extreme height or size that win the dubious distinction of an entry in the Guinness World Records.

What I mean, instead, is extreme expression, the ceaseless quest for aesthetic novelty powered by new technologies that help generate new forms, which are always interesting but not so often good. The media, ever hungry for the latest "wow," is an accessory to the crime. In many cases, one wonders if the designs were meant for magazine covers, newspaper front pages or Web sites rather than real life.


Extreme masterwork

Sometimes, as in the hands of Frank Gehry, extreme architecture has produced masterworks, such as that architect's Walt Disney Concert Hall in Los Angeles, whose exuberant mounds of stainless steel were realized with the same computer technology that made possible the complex curves of French Mirage jet fighters.

But Gehry only reached the pinnacle of Disney Hall, where he more satisfactorily resolved the demands of form and function than at his more-celebrated Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao, Spain, after years of painstakingly refining a neo-Baroque design language that evokes the chaotic quality of modern life.

To hand the Chicago skyline over to a relative novice, the Florence, Italy-based architect David Fisher, who is pushing the idea of a condominium, hotel and office tower here as well as in Dubai, would be akin to turning over the hallowed walls of the Art Institute to a high school art class.

To be sure, Fisher's idea is not without merit. His use of prefabrication techniques, with units made off-site and then hoisted into place around a concrete core, promises to drag antiquated construction technology into the 21st Century.

The prospect of a perpetually morphing shape would build on Santiago Calatrava's successful experiments in kinetic architecture, such as the birdlike sunshade of the Milwaukee Art Museum addition.

On the other hand, good luck solving the plumbing stack.

One can imagine -- and maybe even cotton to -- the prospect of such an attention-getting gesture in Dubai, where the cityscape is still forming and may need new landmarks to give people their physical and psychological bearings. But in Chicago?

On a riverfront parking lot next to NBC Tower, which is among the possible sites? A short walk from the Wrigley Building and the Tribune Tower? Why bother with those two venerable early 20th Century towers as you cruise down the Chicago River when you've got twirling pies in the sky within camera range?

rchitects say they "practice" for good reason. Every building is a form of preparation for the next one. Architects even talk of "practice buildings," the commissions that let an idea germinate and be tested before it is completely realized down the line. Ludwig Mies van der Rohe didn't simply shake the glorious bronze-clad Seagram Building in New York City out of his sleeve. He did more modest practice buildings, the curtain-walled apartment towers of 900 and 910 N. Lake Shore Drive in Chicago, first.


Calatrava has the edge

For that reason, I have far more faith in Calatrava's plan for the twisting, 150-story Chicago Spire than Fisher's notion of a spinning tower, 60 to 90 stories tall. Calatrava's already got a twisting skyscraper to his credit in Malmo, Sweden, the so-called Turning Torso tower. It's a dazzling sculpture, but disappointingly detailed. Presumably, he'll do better next time, drawing on the experience of a long career in which he has taken structures to -- and, sometimes, unreasonably beyond -- their natural limits.

Presumably.

In the end, Fisher's proposed rotating tower may be less important for itself than what it says about the extreme architecture of our time: Too few architects are making a dogged, continual search for underlying truths. Too many are giving in to the seductive, superficial allure of a perpetual revolution. It's a great way to get noticed, to advance careers and to sell real estate. And it gives us spectacle by the bushel. But the real question is whether it is giving us art -- and, oh, yes, a decent place to live.

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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 7:19 PM
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I don't know if anyone noticed or posted this before, but it appears that they are beginning to advertise the old Montgomery Ward Tower again at 6 N. Michigan Avenue.

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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 7:57 PM
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Looks cool, but you can get the same result with a conventional full-floor unit equiped with thermal glass and/or shades, so why bother complicating things. Unless the turning mechanisms are sci-fi phototropes or something

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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 8:13 PM
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I've got vacation and the weather looks great for tomorrow, so I'm making another one of those Cermak to Divison walking photo tours.

Anyone have any photo requests, something that's been overlooked for a while?
     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 8:18 PM
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I don't know if anyone noticed or posted this before, but it appears that they are beginning to advertise the old Montgomery Ward Tower again at 6 N. Michigan Avenue.

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Well, that's nice. At least the sidewalk scaffolding will eventually leave, but they still aren't rebuilding the pyramid on top.

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That part of West Loop should have some decent streetlife at off hours in the next few years. There's the SCB-designed Jupiter project (49-stories?) a block north on Washington, there's the Randolph Tower rental conversion, the rental tower announced for Lake/Wells, now plus this hotel. hopefully should inject some extra juice into the retail market around there as well.
Interesting. Since the lot's been vacant for awhile, and because of the scarcity of information and lack of marketing, I always assumed the LaSalle Garage tower had been cancelled. The Rundown lists it as "215 West Washington" which turned up nothing on Google in the several times I searched for it. But when I searched for "washington jupiter chicago" just now, I got a recent Crain's article dated March 24, which mentioned a September groundbreaking for this tower. Thank God, I don't think I can stomach another vacant lot in the Loop.

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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 10:42 PM
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South Loop Projects South of Roosevelt Updates

OMP1 28th floors 1st setback



OMPW still drilling retaining wall


Looking South on Michigan Ave at Roosevelt Cranes everywere



Columbian (Roosevelt & Michigan)


1340 S. Michigan going loft


Vision 13th & State



1400MP & 1401 S State


1400MP




1401 S. State Lofts





Michigan Ave Tower 2 (14th & Michigan)




Marquee on Michigan






1600MP (16th and Prairie)



1720 S Michigan





Eco18 Demo started (18th & Wabash)



Lexington Tower driving sheet pile (Cermack & Indiana)

     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 10:43 PM
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South Loop Projects North of Roosevelt Updates

Spertus Museum



Midrise North of Astoria Tower (8th State)
I checked in with the sales office for Astoria. Everything has stopped because of a one of the 2 projects has a serious water issue and the street work on 14th.



Library Tower



Arworks Building (Sciencetology new owners) 650 s. Clark - sorry for the quality of the interior shots.




Vetro (Harrison & Wells)


Printers Row Corner (Polk & Wells)



Roosevelt Collection ready to go!!



The Curve 900 S. Clark




Burhnam Pointe (Polk & Clark) Vetro in background
     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 10:44 PM
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yea...that tower by jupiter will have no problem going up since it is a rental and mixes with retail and parking. I emailed the developer about the height of the building and they told me it would 495 ft... i was hoping it would break 500ft but oh well...cant win them all. There is actuall a few 50 story rental towers that will popping up in the loop...i remember there is one on lake street.
     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2007, 10:59 PM
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Amazing update! I had to look back at the first page a lot because I forgot what many of these looked like.
     
     
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