Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 5

[Always Sunny in SLC]

It is exciting to see we may finally be getting a city to match the size of our homeless problem.

[delts145]

Originally Posted by Boz

Just looking at the London photo from several posts ago and I realize more and more how weird London's skyline looks. I don't like it at all. I'd sure take some of those buildings for SLC but something about the London skyline throws me off. Just seems like there's no rhyme or reason to it at all.

Agree Boz, It seems like a very haphazard, every man for himself kind of a mess. The towers taken individually are pretty cool, but together and in their respective locations they just don't seem to mesh well. I think the way Paris set up its skyline is far more attractive.

Kudos to the Parisians for setting their modern skyline at a distance and apart from their historic core.

[bob rulz]

Originally Posted by Atlas

The next PC meeting on October 14 includes time extension requests for the Union Pacific Hotel and the Edison House, so those projects are still alive but have presumably been delayed. There are also design reviews for 800 S. State and the Kozo House Apartments, so assuming those pass they might be starting construction rather soon.

I also saw on the Sugar House construction website that Sugar Alley should be starting this week.

Too bad, I was kinda hoping the Union Pacific Hotel was dead. What a wretched proposal. The Edison House would definitely be cool to have, but I wouldn't be torn up if it fell through.

Good news about the Sugar Alley! Now that's a good project.

[delts145]

Yeah, not the glamour of some of the recent announcements, but it's a nice smaller project with a good mix of materials and active commercial frontage on 200 S. Definitely a good addition to its many neighbors being developed on the same block. Also, it's great to see that corner parking lot disapear.

Originally Posted by Atlas

Worth noting is that this project is directly west of the CINQ project on page 409.

Originally Posted by Blah_Amazing

A lot more mundane than the projects we have been discussing, but Greenprint Gateway Apartments has filed for a Design Review. https://citizenportal.slcgov.com/Cit...howInspection=

This is located on the same block as the existing Gateway 505 apartments (aka Alta Gateway (completed 2017)), the proposed projects of CINQ, Casa Milagro, and Alta Depot as well as the under construction Centro Civico. Should all these projects be built, only two small historic buildings (on 200 South) will remain on the block (except the one building being integrated into CINQ).

6 floors. 150 residential units. groundfloor commercial space.

[Atlas]

That Greenprint Gateway rendering is just bizarre. The project is at the northeast corner of 600 W and 200 S, so the location of the Wells Fargo Center and American Towers is totally wrong. I'm not even sure those other buildings are in SLC. The TRAX tracks are in the right spot though.

[UrbanEar]

Originally Posted by Ironweed

If we get to this point, along with the developments outlined by Mr. Amazing, downtown will finally reach 'legit' status in my opinion.

More excitement for the city than I have seen in decades. (I'm 50.)

A couple of 500+ footers would be icing on the cake.

Hi everyone, I'm another longtime/daily lurker on this site and decided it was time to come out and join in on the fun.

I had one thing to say about SLC's skyline being legit with all of these new towers going up in the next 2-5 years. I feel like even with all these new high rises being built (which is amazing!) we still would be missing a truly iconic tower to be considered legit. SLC needs something that when people look a pic of the skyline go, "oh that's Salt Lake" like with the TransAmerica Tower in SF or the Devon Tower in OKC. IMO I think the parking lot owned by Zions Bank on Main and 100 S would be a perfect spot to build such a tower that ideally is in the 40-50 story range.

[Utah_Dave]

I think the mountain back drop gives the skyline and the city the recognition you are talking about but I definitely know what you mean about needing a signature tower.

[Utah_Dave]

Also, I don’t think 500ft would be good enough. I’m thinking 550’ would be needed to stand out given the elevation sloping lower the farther south you go.

Orlando... got time for some visuals

[Atlas]

Originally Posted by UrbanEar

Hi everyone, I'm another longtime/daily lurker on this site and decided it was time to come out and join in on the fun.

I had one thing to say about SLC's skyline being legit with all of these new towers going up in the next 2-5 years. I feel like even with all these new high rises being built (which is amazing!) we still would be missing a truly iconic tower to be considered legit. SLC needs something that when people look a pic of the skyline go, "oh that's Salt Lake" like with the TransAmerica Tower in SF or the Devon Tower in OKC. IMO I think the parking lot owned by Zions Bank on Main and 100 S would be a perfect spot to build such a tower that ideally is in the 40-50 story range.

Welcome!

I actually think the Devon Tower is kind of overbearing and out-of-place in the OKC skyline. Reminds me of Isengard. A similar tower might be the new Stantec Tower (~820 ft) in Edmonton, but unlike the Devon Tower I think that the Stantec Tower looks fantastic because it's surrounded by a lot of 300+ footers.

SLC seems to be on the cusp of really building up the 300-450 ft tower density so I think that bodes well for our skyline's aesthetics when a big tower is finally proposed. And you're right, the Zions Bank parking lot is the perfect place for a 500+ footer.

[ThePusherMan]

Although height matters I think the real problem is that we live in the age of glass box towers. The real question is can/will we ever get something architecturally significant on our skyline in a post stone material era?

[Rileybo]

Originally Posted by ThePusherMan

Although height matters I think the real problem is that we live in the age of glass box towers. The real question is can/will we ever get something architecturally significant on our skyline in a post stone material era?

Asking the real questions.

Also, cities are more than just skyscrapers. Do I want more hignrises? Of course. Are most people satisfied with what we have/will have? Yes. There’s a lot of talk about signature towers, but most people can only name landmarks like the sears tower, WTC, Golden Gate Bridge, etc. when it comes to “Oh hey, that’s Salt Lake” don’t we already have the temple and city creek, the walker tower...? My friends from out of state recognize SLC after actually walking around town. As was mentioned, we got some killer rocks in the backyard, too.

[SLC PopPunk]

Crew is onsite assembling the second tower crane at the Convention Center Hotel site this morning. Exciting to see so many cranes in the sky!

[jedikermit]

Originally Posted by Makid

I would expect that the City will approve the height provided it isn't just a tall box with a flat roof.

...is this something that's been codified into rules somehow, or is it a recommendation that the City gives? I'd love to see more differenter shapes in the city.

...and yet, watching the steel rise on 95 State, a friend was just like "why is it curved like that, that's WeiRd" and then I punched him.

Sometimes I wonder if anyone else really notices architecture and the built environment.

[Makid]

Originally Posted by jedikermit

...is this something that's been codified into rules somehow, or is it a recommendation that the City gives? I'd love to see more differenter shapes in the city.

...and yet, watching the steel rise on 95 State, a friend was just like "why is it curved like that, that's WeiRd" and then I punched him.

Sometimes I wonder if anyone else really notices architecture and the built environment.

I don't think it is codified, it is just something I have noticed when there is a building going through the CBDR process, especially for mid-block sites.

The Planning Commission has pushed back on flat roofs a few times, 151 State/Liberty Sky being the most recent one I remember.

For the height increase, the roof had to be something different than a box with a flat top. It had to differentiate itself from other buildings.

I am fairly sure that both 111 and 95 State went through this as well. I mainly thing this is why 95 State is using more rounded edges and a curved top.

The goal is to add variety to the skyline both close up and from a distance.

On the subject of heights, If things keep moving as they currently are with proposals and construction, I don't think it will be all that long until a 500' or taller building is proposed.

[UT_Presto]

Originally Posted by Makid

On the subject of heights, If things keep moving as they currently are with proposals and construction, I don't think it will be all that long until a 500' or taller building is proposed.

Does anyone know if there are any active rumors for a 500’ or taller building to go up in SLC?

[Rileybo]

Originally Posted by UT_Presto

Does anyone know if there are any active rumors for a 500’ or taller building to go up in SLC?

Non stop since this forum’s inception.

[Hatman]

Originally Posted by Rileybo

Non stop since this forum’s inception.

Something that is not a rumor: The 9 Line Trail!

I got a flyer in the mail the other day saying construction would begin next year. West Temple to the railroad tracks at 600 West starts construction in the spring, while West Temple eastward begins in the summer of 2022.

The project will resurface 9th south, and replace the old layout with completely new striping (1 lane each way, plus a two-way left turn lane in the middle).

Most significantly, the curb and gutter on the south side will be torn out, and a new curb and gutter will be built several feet further north. In the newly-opened space, there will be a 10-foot wide cycling path, separate from the existing sidewalk, that will connect from the Jordan River trail all the way up to the zoo. One small section has already been built - the roundabout at 9th south and 10th (?) east already has the cycle path in place, so you can see what the finished product will look like.

I think this is fantastic, and I had no idea the project was this close to being built. Great job, SLC! I want more of this!

[Orlando]

Originally Posted by Hatman

Something that is not a rumor: The 9 Line Trail!

I got a flyer in the mail the other day saying construction would begin next year. West Temple to the railroad tracks at 600 West starts construction in the spring, while West Temple eastward begins in the summer of 2022.

The project will resurface 9th south, and replace the old layout with completely new striping (1 lane each way, plus a two-way left turn lane in the middle).

Most significantly, the curb and gutter on the south side will be torn out, and a new curb and gutter will be built several feet further north. In the newly-opened space, there will be a 10-foot wide cycling path, separate from the existing sidewalk, that will connect from the Jordan River trail all the way up to the zoo. One small section has already been built - the roundabout at 9th south and 10th (?) east already has the cycle path in place, so you can see what the finished product will look like.

I think this is fantastic, and I had no idea the project was this close to being built. Great job, SLC! I want more of this!

This is exciting! This investment in public infrastructure will greatly help the Granary District & Fleet Block be a more viable &attractive place to live & work. This is part of the concept/ vision that my team came up with 5 years ago. You can see the 9-Line in the lower left:


Here's the master plan for the 9-Line:
http://www.slcdocs.com/openspace/9%2...9LineCMP-1.pdf

[Rileybo]

^^^
Haven’t seen that in a while, is it for sure happening? Just wanna clarify.

Edit: just saw the last post.

[Orlando]

Originally Posted by Makid

Mid-block has a height limit of 100' but with design review, there is no limit.

You may remember the original version of The Cascade with CCC was originally going to be 415'.

I would expect that the City will approve the height provided it isn't just a tall box with a flat roof.

You are right about the original height of the proposed Cascade, but after reviewing it with the city, they decided to follow the city's guidelines, and revised the design so that the tower on the corner of West Temple and South Temple to be more prominent and taller (now called Promontory or 99 West), and the Cascade should be shorter since it was mid-block. It was reduced down by a couple hundred feet to be a little over 200 feet.