Winnipeg Construction VIII - Page 412

esquire · #**8221** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 7:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

That tan/copper coloured ice fishing shack that's attached to the right of the main entrance of Sherbrook.

You guys talking about this thing?

https://goo.gl/maps/3nnR1AVN9iz

Yeah, that looks lame. I've never noticed it before... I don't think I've ever entered HSC on that side so much as once. Is the bed tower supposed to go on that site?

bomberjet · #**8222** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 7:24 PM**

Tis the shanty we speak of. Biff thinks the bed tower is going there. Bed tower as in a tower that contains generic hospital rooms?

Biff · #**8223** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 7:42 PM**

I'm speculating on the location, I just know those shacks aren't long for this world and they are cramped for space. I have heard the bed tower would be sizeable - 15 to 20 stories.

esquire · #**8224** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 7:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

I'm speculating on the location, I just know those shacks aren't long for this world and they are cramped for space. I have heard the bed tower would be sizeable - 15 to 20 stories.

That's tall by HSC standards. I'm guessing with the floor heights at play, even at 15 storeys it would probably still be taller than the 19 storey HSC CanadInns?

CoryB · #**8225** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by rkspec

Not to mention Kleysen Institute for Advanced Medicine as well as the new CanadInns

I'm assuming CancerCare will be 2 separate buildings unlike the original render that had a skywalk at the original 700 McDermot location? That'll be a bummer for CCMB staff in winter.

My understanding of the fuzzy HSC campus is both Kleysen Institue and CanadInns are part of HSC.

In terms of CancerCare, the Manitoba Clinic site shares a street corner with the existing CancerCare building. I would imagine that some for a skywalk will still be done. The original plan seemed to call for the addition to be built straight across McDermot instead of the diagonal of the Manitoba Clinic site.

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Originally Posted by esquire

The U of M has two huge parkades at the HSC campus... Emily St and the larger, newer one on Tecumseh. A rare example of a Winnipeg land owner building a sufficient amount of parkade space. I think they're set for a while.

Those two parkdades are actually HSC parkades. The U of M actually has the surface lot next to the Pharmacy building and the one at Tecumseh and Bannaytne which is the one the plans called for expanding with more levels.

esquire · #**8226** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 8:22 PM**

^ Are they? I stand corrected, I thought they were U of M. Maybe U of M will have to pony up for a new parkade, then... or lease out space in the HSC ones. They're going to have too many people in the area to rely on surface parking, and the City is not readily persuaded to allow more demolition of houses around there to make way for surface parking.

bomberjet · #**8227** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 8:30 PM**

I think we talked about parkades at HSC recently, and there was at least 7 of them IIRC. Most are rather large too. Do they really need more parkades?!

Biff · #**8228** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 8:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by CoryB

The original plan seemed to call for the addition to be built straight across McDermot instead of the diagonal of the Manitoba Clinic site.

The original plan had them sharing space with some WHRA operations is a large 18 - 22 storey building.

cheswick · #**8229** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 8:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

I think we talked about parkades at HSC recently, and there was at least 7 of them IIRC. Most are rather large too. Do they really need more parkades?!

I never quite understand when people argue that we need to build more parking in situations like this. There are alternative forms of transportation. The rates for parking is something that can be adjusted so easily to equate the demand with the supply. Like what is gonna happen if a new parkade isn't built? Will people opt to not attend the university cause they have to bus it?

bomberjet · #**8230** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 9:08 PM**

Everybody wants to park right at the front door of wherever they're going. North American society I guess. Everyone's been raised on driving to their destination, outside of places like NYC.

TimeFadesAway · #**8231** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 9:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by bomberjet

I think we talked about parkades at HSC recently, and there was at least 7 of them IIRC. Most are rather large too. Do they really need more parkades?!

There's a months-long wait for $80+/month employee parking passes at HSC

bomberjet · #**8232** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 9:50 PM**

^ So both those 6-7 storey parkades near Tecumseh and Notre Dame are full, everyday?! Holy cripe, I should go into the parkade business at HSC!

CoryB · #**8233** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 10:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by esquire

^ Are they? I stand corrected, I thought they were U of M. Maybe U of M will have to pony up for a new parkade, then... or lease out space in the HSC ones. They're going to have too many people in the area to rely on surface parking, and the City is not readily persuaded to allow more demolition of houses around there to make way for surface parking.

The two you mentioned are both HSC parkades and run close to capacity most days. as I mentioned elsewhere, U of M has their own at Tecumseh and Bannaytne. I think that one is currently a 2-3 level structure and they are planning to add another 2-3 levels.

In terms of why parking is needed try recruiting profs for the faculty of medicine and suggesting they take a bus and see how well that works out...

esquire · #**8234** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 10:02 PM**

HSC has thousands of people working in the area and not a lot of options other than parkades. The streets nearby are all 2 hr max areas to prevent people from just parking by the curb all day, and the parkades/surface lots are the only game in town if you want to drive.

U of M didn't have all that many people in the HSC area until recently, and that number is about to get a whole lot bigger. I don't see why U of M shouldn't meet the needs of staff, faculty and students by providing them with somewhere to park.

EDIT: Thanks for clarifying, Cory. I think we're kind of on the same page when it comes to parking... having a basic amount is a bit of a necessary evil. Although with the sheer amount of growth at HSC over the past few years with more coming, I wonder if there has been any thought given to expanding Transit service there? I recall when I used to take the 31 to work downtown, there were always a lot of people getting off at HSC... however, I'm guessing that unlike those lucky 31 riders, there are relatively few people who can get to HSC by bus without transferring once or twice.

drew · #**8235** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 10:03 PM**

^ its probably a bit of a revenue generator as well.

cheswick · #**8236** Posted **Jan 15, 2016, 10:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by CoryB

The two you mentioned are both HSC parkades and run close to capacity most days. as I mentioned elsewhere, U of M has their own at Tecumseh and Bannaytne. I think that one is currently a 2-3 level structure and they are planning to add another 2-3 levels.

In terms of why parking is needed try recruiting profs for the faculty of medicine and suggesting they take a bus and see how well that works out...

What a ludicrous argument to build a parkade. There currently isn't enough parking for the handful or professors to park? An increase of parking costs in the area isn't going to drive a professor or Doctor into taking the bus. What utter nonsense.

GarryEllice · #**8237** Posted **Jan 16, 2016, 4:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by CoryB

In terms of why parking is needed try recruiting profs for the faculty of medicine and suggesting they take a bus and see how well that works out...

Really? I'm a prof (albeit not in medicine) and all my young prof friends are quite transit-oriented, including one who is in medicine and bought a house in Wolseley so he could bus to work. Most of us did our PhDs in bigger cities where taking the bus is not a shameful thing. Profs from the boomer generation are another story.

esquire · #**8238** Posted **Jan 18, 2016, 2:57 PM**

On the way downtown this morning I noticed a bunch of construction equipment assembling at the Imperial Properties development site between Confusion Corner and Osborne Station... I can't say that I was really expecting this one to go ahead, but it looks like something's really happening now.

CoryB · #**8239** Posted **Jan 18, 2016, 3:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by GarryEllice

Really? I'm a prof (albeit not in medicine) and all my young prof friends are quite transit-oriented, including one who is in medicine and bought a house in Wolseley so he could bus to work. Most of us did our PhDs in bigger cities where taking the bus is not a shameful thing. Profs from the boomer generation are another story.

Doctors tend to be a profession that is always on call and needs to often get to a situation as quickly as possible. Expecting doctors to "take a bus" would be comparable to saying paramedics don't need dedicated stations or vehicles cause they could "take a bus".

pegcityfan · #**8240** Posted **Jan 18, 2016, 3:49 PM**

Gas Station Theatre project got a small shot in the arm with some conditional funding from the Province.

http://mytoba.ca/news/arts-centre-with-co-op-housing-coming-to-winnipeg/