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So, how many months, years, decades are we talking about before we see the next crane hit the Austin skyline? Will it be the Shore, Block 21, 360, ZOM, MetLife, something on campus, South of the river, East of 35, or none of the above?
So far, it looks like two rentals: - MetLife (101 Colorado) and Amli, are the only projects with financing (although they will probably end up being for-sale units).

Shore has reported they've sold "most of their units." But, no word from the others. No real marketing, either.

ZOM is spending some money on their site and Novare is supposed to move the Moon Tower soon. The deal next to the Hyatt is on its 3rd try to get financing, with some new local owners.

Spring is now supposed to be "next Spring" (or Summer or Fall .... )

Block 21 looks promising if they can get the W and ACL - that's a project that will generate some excitement.
     
     
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Tower cranes usually don't show up on site until the project has already been under construction for a month or two, this depends on the size/height of the building. Frost Bank Tower brokeground in November of 2001, starting excavation work, but it wasn't until like March that the first tower cranes showed up at the site, 420MM, my brother and myself actually set across the street that day and watched them build the tower cranes for the building. THAT, was cool. Tower cranes are for putting together the steel structure, glass and even pouring concrete and adding spires, or other decorative pieces. Excavation and "dirt work" are done by bulldozers, backhoes and dump trucks.

Have patience folks.
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Thanks everyone, now i can relax a bit.
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Im not too worried about block 21. Even if the current plan falls through, AMLI (or whatever their name is) will likely step in. If looking up is confident about Metlife that will put 4 buildings very close to each other in the next few years. If ZOM and the Spire take off in that time frame as well, all the better.

In any case, I would think the buildings on 2nd street will either prove people want to live downtown and there is a market for it, or it will show there isnt any. If those buildings sell and are filled with actual people (not just investors buying them up) then businesses should migrate downtown to meet their needs.. making downtown even more desirable to live in. These buildings doing well could work as s tipping point for residential projects downtown.

Or they could fail horribly and it'll be a few years before we see more construction.

Lets hope it isnt the latter.
     
     
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There are just 3 cranes up in West Campus - none too high.

Dorm at 27/Guadalupe
Co-op Parking at 23/Nueces (Picture of structure is at the site now)
Texan Tower at 25/San Gabriel

This excludes 2 or 3 cranes up within the campus itself. Well, the dorm is on campus, but right at the edge.

The party really gets started this summer or fall. There will be at least 6 cranes up by then. 21st/Rio Grande will be the biggie, for 21 Rio (220 ft/ 18 stories).
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Co-op Parking at 23/Nueces (Picture of structure is at the site now)
Do you have the link, (with rendering), for that Co-op parking garage?

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Strong Demand for South Lamar Condo Mid-Rise

There appears to be strong demand for the new Bridges on the Park condo project on South Lamar (near Riverside Drive). See blurb from this morning's Statesman:

http://www.statesman.com/business/content/business/stories/other/03/31austininc.html

Strong demand for units at Bridges on the Park


As with many of the loft and condo projects emerging in and around downtown, demand appears to be high for the $50 million Bridges on the Park, which broke ground last week on South Lamar Boulevard just south of Town Lake.

Prospective buyers have put down $3,000 deposits on 61 of the 104 units in the six-story project, only a month after Dallas-based developer CLB Partners began taking reservations.

Slated for a summer 2007 completion, units will be priced from the $300,000s to the $700,000s, with sizes ranging from 825 to 1,650 square feet.

The name comes from the location, which is near Town Lake and Zilker parks and several bridges over Town Lake, said Bobby Nail, a partner with CLB.
CLB also developed the Austin City Lofts on West Fifth Street.

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Well if all goes well, we should see the first signs of construction for Metlife the first week of April.
     
     
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nice how everything is going to start up around the same time.

AMLI, Metlife, Zom and 360 should all start up in the next few weeks.
     
     
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nice how everything is going to start up around the same time.

AMLI, Metlife, Zom and 360 should all start up in the next few weeks.
It would be exciting. Maybe Austin can catch up with all the other cities experiencing the "back to the city" trend.

Fingers crossed on the Novare-360 deal. We haven't heard anything from them. I signed up 2 months ago and haven't even received a reply. I hope they start some marketing.

Everybody has forgotten Spring. I think they're re-thinking their proposal.

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I'm really curious about something, and I'm wondering if anyone would have this information. Who are the people putting money down on these developments in Austin? Are they locals? Are they predominately the under 30 group or babyboomers? Are they people looking to settle or looking to make a quick buck?

With the prices for these Austin condos already running neck and neck with prices in more developed and exuberant downtowns, and with interest rates on the rise, will there be much room for future appreciation on these condos? And if investors start seeing national trends that say no to that, will they stay with these projects or walk?
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crewer, that is a very good question.

The condos on Lamar South of the river are very likely being bought by people who want to live there. The Barton Hills area is a very sought after part of town and infill condos have been filling up in that area of town for years.

The rest of them? Who knows. Thats why I feel better about the rental unit buildings going up.. some of them will be sold to people who want to live downtown for sure. Most are likely being bought by speculators, local or otherwise. Especially when you only have to put up 2-3 grand of fully refundable money to secure a property. It sounds like these developers know whats going on and are allowing it. Earnest money is typically about 1% of the purchase price, but is usually only refundable under very specific circumstances... the fact that you can get your money back just because you changed your mind isnt a good thing, IMO.
     
     
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From a few early pics I saw ZOM seems to have a very unique design. Can someone confirm if my impression here is correct? It reminds me of the cylindrical building in London, but smaller.
     
     
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NY Times on Texas Highrise Living

April 2, 2006
NY Times National Perspectives

In Some Texas Cities, the Sprawl Is Vertical
By KATE MURPHY

HOUSTON -- NOT all Texans own ranches, but they tend to like good-sized yards even if they live in the city, which is why the state's urban areas sprawl into the sunset. It's possible to run out of gas crisscrossing Houston. The same could be said for Dallas, Austin and San Antonio.

Tall buildings are clustered mainly in downtown areas, which historically have been so deserted at night that tumbleweeds could blow unperturbed across the desolate streets. But now there's life after dark in and around Texas's central business districts, thanks to the construction of residential high-rise buildings. In a marked shift, more Texans are warming to high-rise living, particularly if the properties offer luxury amenities.

"The demand is kind of surprising because Texans are people who like dirt on the ground," said Nancy Elizabeth Garfield, an agent at Greenwood King Properties who specializes in high-rise residences.

According to Property and Portfolio Research, an independent real estate research and advisory firm in Boston, Houston is expected to add 3,119 high-rise condominium units in 2006 versus 1,001 in 2005.

The last time residential high-rises were built in Texas was in the 1980's, and they didn't do very well, Ms. Garfield said. Austin's high-rises were limited to student housing at the University of Texas, and the handful that were constructed in Houston, Dallas and San Antonio went bankrupt or remained vacant while the developers offered incentives like agreeing to buy back units at the purchase price up to 10 years later. Twin high-rises in Houston called the Four-Leaf Towers even offered favorable terms on apartments to local members of the clergy hoping their flocks would follow.

But now the Four-Leaf's 400 units are fully occupied and its local developer, the Interfin Companies, has built two more residential towers closer to downtown. One with 95 units was completed in 2000 and has no vacancies, and the other, built last year, has only 14 of 97 units available, according to brokers.

Cranes are pivoting around the shells of three other high-rise condominium projects nearby with another scheduled to break ground in May.

"We are seeing increased demand in Texas for the lock-and-leave condo lifestyle," said Mark Cover, executive vice president for the southwest region at Hines Interests, a privately owned international real estate firm based in Houston. "It appeals especially to people who travel a lot and don't want to worry about their home's security or maintenance while they're gone."

Hines has participated in the development of two high-rise projects in Houston — one completed last year, which is full, and another scheduled for completion by 2007, which already has contracts on 55 of its 70 units.

Mr. Cover said Hines would also break ground on a residential high-rise in Dallas this summer and was in negotiations to put up three more buildings in the city. Property and Portfolio Research reports that Dallas will add a total of 3,231 high-rise condos this year, up from 1,593 last year.

The increase is in contrast to other markets around the country. "In places like Florida, Arizona and California, the markets got overheated, but Texas arrived late to the party and is still very active," said Michael E. Puls, president of Foley & Puls, a real estate consulting firm based in Dallas.

Because of "irrational exuberance" elsewhere, he said, investor interest in residential high-rise projects has waned, so developers in Texas have had to come up with "concepts that will appeal to the people who will actually move into these places."

An example is the Plaza Turtle Creek high-rise apartments in Dallas, which was completed in 2001 and is now more than 80 percent occupied. The building is on a prime patch of wooded land just outside of the city's downtown and adjacent to the Mansion at Turtle Creek, a luxury hotel. The 18-story, 111-unit high-rise is managed by the hotel, and residents have access to room service and other amenities afforded hotel guests.

The developer, the Meyer Development Corporation, is planning another residential high-rise on the property that will also be managed by the Mansion at Turtle Creek. It will have larger units, from 5,000 to 11,000 square feet, and buyers will be able to design their own floor plans.

"To get people to move out of their houses in Highland Park," said Larry Meyer, president of Meyer Development, referring to an exclusive neighborhood in Dallas, "you've got to give them an exceptional level of service, privacy and customization."

Developers of residential high-rises in major Texas cities say their target is baby boomers whose children are grown. "These people can live anywhere they want, so we're not so much in the housing business as the lifestyle business," said Giorgio Borlenghi, president of Interfin. His company's newly built residential towers have Olympic-size pools, health clubs and day spas, along with concierge and valet service.

Last year, Sue Volk moved with her husband, Richard, from a three-story 4,500-square-foot house in Houston to a 2,200-square-foot apartment on the 21st floor of Interfin's newest high-rise, called the Montebello. "I like being able to leave my car out front, walk in and have them bring up my groceries," she said "The security is wonderful, and you don't have to deal with the upkeep of a house, yard and pool." Mrs. Volk also owns a second home in Aspen, Colo.

But empty-nesters are not the only ones moving into Texas high-rises. They also appeal to young professionals tired of commuting from outlying suburbs.

"The congestion in Austin has increased so much and become such a quality of life issue that people want to live near where they work so they can leave their car in the garage," said Charles Heimsath, president of Capitol Market Research, a real estate consulting firm in Austin.

There are 832 high-rise units scheduled for completion in its downtown area this year versus 20 last year, and at least 10 more high-rise projects are on the drawing board, according to Mr. Heimsath.

Another contributing factor is the number of big companies that have their headquarters in the state, including Dell Computer, Continental Airlines, American Airlines and ExxonMobil. These businesses attract employees from all over the world and many are already accustomed to living in high-rise buildings.

Wealthy people from Latin America and the Middle East who have oil or other business interests in Texas are also buying high-rise units in the state.

"We're only two hours from the border, so we have a lot of Mexican nationals who want to buy high-rise apartments here as a second home," said Phyllis Browning, an independent real estate agent in San Antonio, where two downtown high-rise condominiums were built within the last two years with five more under development.

"We had two high-rises that went up in the 80's and they failed and were foreclosed, but now even they are completely full," Ms. Browning said.

Like residential high-rises in other Texas cities, the ones in San Antonio offer high-end amenities, at prices ranging from $350,000 to $2 million. "Cheap ones wouldn't do well," said Ms. Garfield in Houston. "It's got to be well-built, luxurious and have a fabulous view for Texans to give up their yards."

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Good article. However, most Texas cities do NOT have tumbleweeds blowing around anywhere near them. Only in West Texas, and only in a few areas out there, for an example in Lubbock, Amarillo and and Midland.

Leave it to a Yankee to still think tumbleweeds blow around in Texas cities!
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Good article. However, most Texas cities do NOT have tumbleweeds blowing around anywhere near them. Only in West Texas, and only in a few areas out there, for an example in Lubbock, Amarillo and and Midland.

Leave it to a Yankee to still think tumbleweeds blow around in Texas cities!
Or leave it to the Texas promotional media for always perpetuating an image of cowboys, cactus, chuckwagons, and tumbleweed to the rest of the country in order to feed that ongoing stereotype.
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LaVista on Lavaca site picture.. I discovered this accidentally looking at a weblink for a condo forsale at Greenwood Tower. This is taken from the condo unit.



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Northcross Mall to undergo Redevelopment

The 31-year old Northcross Mall, at the corner of Burnet Rd and Anderson Ln in N austin is about to undergo a massive redevelopment. The mall has been very stale, if not a 'dying' mall, for the past decade or so. However, Lincoln Property group is now on board and will redevelop the prime property into a more vertical retail center, which will include a 3-evel parking garage. This is from this week's ABJ:

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2006/04/03/story2.html

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Changes set for Northcross

Austin Business Journal - March 31, 2006
by Mary Alice Kaspar
Austin Business Journal Staff

A major redevelopment of the Northcross Mall site in Central Austin is in the works.

Dallas-based real estate firm Lincoln Property Co. has put under contract a 27.8-acre site at the southwest corner of Anderson Lane and Burnet Road, according to the seller's representative.

Lincoln's plans include demolishing the western two-thirds of the existing mall structure and renovating the remaining one-third, according to plans filed with the City of Austin's planning department. The site features a total of 387,559 square feet. The redevelopment proposal comprises 373,110 square feet of retail space and a parking garage, filed plans show.
Robert Dozier, executive vice president of the retail group for Lincoln Property, is listed in the filing as the new owner's contact. He couldn't be reached for comment.

Jim Schissler of the Austin office of Houston-based Jones & Carter Inc. is listed as the project's engineer. A recent letter submitted by Schissler details Lincoln's plans for construction of five new retail buildings and a three-level parking garage.

One of the larger retail buildings will be two stories tall, and the most recent site plan calls for the inclusion of the popular Chaparral Ice skating rink, according to Schissler.

Northcross Mall was built in the mid-1970s and purchased by Midland Red Oak Realty Inc. in 1998. Then, sources said the mall was purchased for less than the $18 million sought by the seller. The deal marked the Midland company's first foray into Austin.

In the spring of 2004, Midland Red Oak tapped Robert Townsend of San Antonio-based mall consulting firm Robert Townsend Retail Consulting to help reposition the property.
A roughly $1.5 million overhaul was planned for the new tenants, including the return of Chaparral Ice. The transformation was expected to take two years.

Now, Townsend confirms Lincoln Property is under contract to purchase Northcross Mall.

Townsend says the repositioning made it "a more viable atmosphere to get a redevelopment buyer to the table."
The repositioning was designed to aid a major overhaul. Leases gave the landlord a one-time termination right in the event of a redevelopment, and this January the lease with Oshman's Supersports was reduced to 24 months.

Townsend says Midland Red Oak, the real estate arm of an oil company, decided to sell Northcross because it determined the project could be done better by a more experienced company.

"You've got to have the confidence to invest the dollars, [and] experience and expertise to be able to determine the upside and feasibility of the redevelopment," Townsend says.

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Northcross is a dead mall. The movie theater is gone, the ice rink was taken out (I think its back in though, IIRC?), the arcade is closed and most of the stores are gone. Heck, last time I went by there part of the mall looked like it was being used as office space.

When I was a kid, that was a really happening place. The problem is it had the "mallrat" types that were at the mall for everything but buying stuff.
     
     
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The 31-year old Northcross Mall, at the corner of Burnet Rd and Anderson Ln in N austin is about to undergo a massive redevelopment. The mall has been very stale, if not a 'dying' mall, for the past decade or so. However, Lincoln Property group is now on board and will redevelop the prime property into a more vertical retail center, which will include a 3-evel parking garage. This is from this week's ABJ:

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2006/04/03/story2.html
Wow, that's great to hear! I've always considered Northcross one huge waste of prime land and have wondered if something would be done about it.

I'm curious what they mean by "more vertical retail". The article only referenced "two stories" for one of the retail centers.
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