Winnipeg Construction VIII

[trueviking]

Originally Posted by buzzg

@ TV, is that mystery project you alluded to be working on a few months ago still in the works?

you bet.


should break ground in the summer....another parking lot down.

[bomberjet]

With the streetscaping upgrades that are ongoing, and all the upgrades/new developments in the east exchange, that will be a very nice area in the next couple years (it's already nice, but even nicer!). Just looking at Google Earth you can see the Elgin upgrades, along with all the others on Market, etc. Slowly getting turned into a more friendly area, which is fantastic!

[Urban recluse]

It is perplexing why the design of 98 Market is not being rebuked. It is atrocious, and resembles a 50 year old building in need of renovations.

[Bluenote]

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

It is perplexing why the design of 98 Market is not being rebuked. It is atrocious, and resembles a 50 year old building in need of renovations.

Is there anything you like ? You and Simplicity are twins. You need to get ahold of all that negative emotion and start working on the positives in your life 😉

[Urban recluse]

No, better designs and materials should be demanded.

[jmt18325]

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

No, better designs and materials should be demanded.

Demanded? You'll be footing the bill, then, I'd suppose.

This picture does nothing to tell us of the material that will be used.

[Urban recluse]

Hardie board no doubt, perhaps tacky metal siding? This proposal may be acceptable in a suburban location, but not downtown. More brick, some color, and glazing would be appreciated.

[jmt18325]

The look is very modern chic. Brick and glass aren't everything.

[1ajs]

theres co-op housing across the street from this project witch seems to be forgotten about allot kinda neat as it was the first residential convertion in the area if im not mistaken dating back to the 70's

[Urban recluse]

Originally Posted by jmt18325

The look is very modern chic. Brick and glass aren't everything.

Your interpretation of "modern chic" is warped.

This is modern chic:


http://finance-commerce.com/2014/11/junction-flats-sets-new-apartment-sales-bar/

[jmt18325]

We have buildings that look that good here. You used an example from somewhere else because...it's from somewhere else.

[drew]

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

Your interpretation of "modern chic" is warped.

This is modern chic:


http://finance-commerce.com/2014/11/junction-flats-sets-new-apartment-sales-bar/

I like the look. But that amount of glass is incompatible with the new energy code, and anything approaching reasonable construction costs to overcome that fact. Might be possible with more half height windows.

[bogdog]

"The public space issue is a huge failure to understand the local market conditions. Those public courtyards don't really work here. A good example is the Japanese garden by the Convention Center. It is a perfect space but is basically non-existent in most people's knowledge of the city. The situation only gets worse if you put one in a neighbourhood with other issues and hide it from view."UOTE][/QUOTE]
One aspect of the livability factor as it applies to public space is the acoustic nature of the space. All too often,imo, noise levels are not considered in these grandiose attempts to engineer high quality commons.
In the case of the cube village on Balmoral, the relentless noise of traffic contributes to the lack of ease felt by residents. In the case of the visually beautiful park at Carlton and York, the noise of the HVAC for the surrounding buildings makes it more difficult to relax and enjoy the quite lovely job done by the designers and maintenance staff.
I am not suggesting that acoustic stress is the most important dysfunction in troubled neighborhoods, but I feel it is one which is too often overlooked.

[Urban recluse]

Originally Posted by jmt18325

We have buildings that look that good here. You used an example from somewhere else because...it's from somewhere else.

No, there are no current examples like that. Somewhere else, as in a vibrant district, then yes.

[Urban recluse]

Originally Posted by drew

I like the look. But that amount of glass is incompatible with the new energy code, and anything approaching reasonable construction costs to overcome that fact. Might be possible with more half height windows.

True. I could accept smaller windows with an exterior finish that compensates. 98 Market is simply too dull and dreary.

[biguc]

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

Your interpretation of "modern chic" is warped.

This is modern chic:


http://finance-commerce.com/2014/11/junction-flats-sets-new-apartment-sales-bar/

It's illegal to build six story stick frame in Manitoba, unlike in Minneapolis.

[Urban recluse]

Admittedly, I am ignorant when it comes to construction. I simply long for color and texture in Winnipeg's downtown.

[USA]

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

Admittedly, I am ignorant when it comes to construction. I simply long for color and texture in Winnipeg's downtown.

Another thing to keep in mind with 98 Market is that this is pretty in line with modern Winnipeg architectural style. I feel like it's sort of a postmodern reflection of the older architecture in the area. Lack of color? sure. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. Streetscaping can help a ton with this as the drab buildings across downtown are really nice looking in the right light, it's mostly just a matter of finding the right type of lighting to use in certain areas.

I'm not sure if I agree with your assessment of the lack of texture in downtown ywg though. Texture is the thing that we have instead of color whereas other cities don't play with texture as much in their architecture.

[roccerfeller]

Originally Posted by trueviking

you bet.


should break ground in the summer....another parking lot down.

The sexy building? Best thing is to hear another parking lot being developed on. Look forward to seeing it go up from afar.

Originally Posted by Urban recluse

Admittedly, I am ignorant when it comes to construction. I simply long for color and texture in Winnipeg's downtown.

Which is fair, though I think that will eventually come as more and more projects happen downtown. You are otherwsie being a bit too hard on the market building it looks to be a great, solid project, and a great fit for that area - plus its axing another lot.

[Urban recluse]

Yes, replacing a lot is a reason to rejoice, but I love color, and a mixture of materials to create interest. Rather than this grey, depressing structure, I would like to see something like this:

http://www.morrowparkcityapts.com/