NEW YORK | 432 Park Avenue (Drake Hotel dev.) | (1,396) FT / 432 M | 89 FLOORS - Page 401

spc fan · #**8001** Posted **Nov 6, 2015, 12:34 PM**

Is the skyscraper opened? And the 14th, not 15th tallest in the world. But why is it simply a "tall box design"?

spc fan · #**8002** Posted **Nov 6, 2015, 12:36 PM**

NOBODY will like a simple design. It should be futuristic.

chris08876 · #**8003** Posted **Nov 6, 2015, 5:20 PM**

View from my unit:

@CB instagram

jk, i wish...

Design-mind · #**8004** Posted **Nov 7, 2015, 4:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by chris08876

View from my unit:

jk, i wish...

LOL! Unit? Don't you mean window washing trolley....now back to work

TechTalkGuy · #**8005** Posted **Nov 7, 2015, 4:43 AM**

See how 432 Park Ave was built:

• Video Link

Crawford · #**8006** Posted **Nov 7, 2015, 4:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hamilton

That is patently false. It has a disgusting windswept plaza and driveway on the 56th St side, and killed the entire corner of 56th and Park, a previously vibrant urban corner when the Drake was there.

None of this is true. 432 Park has an improved streetwall, because it replaced small-scale retail along 57th that didn't align with adjacent buildings with a huge retail space that does align with adjacent buildings. 57th Street will be much more vibrant than before.

The Park Ave. side isn't zoned for large scale retail anyways, nor is it zoned for buildings lining up. That corner was never vibrant, and zoning doesn't intend for Park to have extensive street-level retail in the first place. It's intended for banks, showrooms, and office lobbies. Yet the Park Ave. side has a multilevel retail space, where previously there was nothing.

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Originally Posted by Hamilton

Vinoly is such a banal and unimaginative hack. It wouldn't be a big deal, except that his arrogance is an aggression against Manhattan's urban street fabric.

Vinoly vastly improved Manhattan's urban street fabric. He replaced empty, blank spaces on the Park Ave. side with huge multilevel retail spaces on the 57th Street side. The neighborhood is far more urban, pedestrian friendly, and vibrant than before.

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Originally Posted by Hamilton

NYGuy's dismissive comments implying streetwalls don't matter miss the mark. This is Manhattan. Build these boring plazas and driveways in Houston, not here.

There are no "boring plazas and driveways" at 432 Park. You made that up.

People just like to make up random stuff on SSP. The corner of 56th and Park used to be a blank, empty space that didn't line up with neighboring buildings. Now it's a large multilevel retail space that lines up with its neighbor. Apparently urban multilevel retail space is really a "driveway" according to Hamilton.

ILNY · #**8007** Posted **Nov 7, 2015, 5:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by spc fan

NOBODY will like a simple design. It should be futuristic.

Simplicity is what makes this tower beautiful.

My older photo.

There will be no empty streets, on the contrary, retail stores at the tower base will attract people to the neighborhood.
56th street corner will not be empty either, there will be another retail pavilion and small public park with trees.

chris08876 · #**8008** Posted **Nov 7, 2015, 5:49 PM**

I don't think this tower is photogenic, but in person, its quite nice. Might be one of those cases where photos don't do justice.

The base is great. Its also not as thin as most would believe it would be. Now Steinway will be thin just looking at the site but 432 has a little bulk relative to its surroundings.

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Originally Posted by Design-mind

LOL! Unit? Don't you mean window washing trolley....now back to work

If I could get a pillow, I'd live in a trolley with that view. Imagine the commute? Just ride the trolley down and walk towards One57, where my other trolley unit is located.

Phil McAvity · #**8009** Posted **Nov 8, 2015, 8:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by photoLith

Pause at 1:44 hnnnnggggg But seriously the entire video is pretty effing awesome. Wish I had a spare 86 million. But of course the idiotic shadow argument pops its stupid head at the end.

She's right, this building will ruin Central Park, the city might as well sell all 843 acres right now to developers.

NYCLuver · #**8010** Posted **Nov 9, 2015, 9:29 PM**

November 9th, 2015

punchydj · #**8011** Posted **Nov 11, 2015, 12:30 PM**

Hi Guys!

There is a construction update of the month of October, it seems that the building is near of gis completion

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• Video Link

Thank you!!

10023 · #**8012** Posted **Nov 11, 2015, 1:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by spc fan

Is the skyscraper opened? And the 14th, not 15th tallest in the world. But why is it simply a "tall box design"?

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Originally Posted by spc fan

NOBODY will like a simple design. It should be futuristic.

Disagree.

This is far superior to building things that looks like they belong in Lujiazui or Shenzhen in New York.

JustSomeGuyWho · #**8013** Posted **Nov 12, 2015, 1:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by spc fan

NOBODY will like a simple design. It should be futuristic.

You can get yourself into trouble when you use terms like NOBODY, NEVER, ALWAYS, etc. Clearly SOME people do not like the design and SOME people do. YOU think it should be futuristic. That is an opinion, it is your opinion and not a fact.

My personal opinion is that the building fits New York perfectly. I like the simple design, I think it is elegant and I believe it will add a nice contrast when mixed in with the other super talls of various designs under construction.

NYguy · #**8014** Posted **Nov 12, 2015, 3:27 AM**

https://twitter.com/climorris

http://urbanismvsmodernism.blogspot.com/

BRANDON NAGLE

kznyc2k · #**8015** Posted **Nov 12, 2015, 8:05 AM**

PeterQM · #**8016** Posted **Nov 12, 2015, 5:36 PM**

432 Park in Numbers: New Renderings and Superlatives Will Blow You Away
By Ondel Hylton
November 11, 2015
http://www.6sqft.com/432-park-in-numbers-new-renderings-and-superlatives-will-blow-you-away/

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Now that Macklowe Properties‘/CIM Group‘s 432 Park Avenue is nearing completion, with occupancy slated to begin in mid-2016 and 70 percent of units reportedly in contract, the development’s marketing and branding agency DBOX has released a bevy of never-before-seen images of our skyline’s newest icon. Being the tower of superlatives it is, it comes as no surprise that it boasts a marketing campaign to match. Employing sky-cams, drone photography, a million-dollar film, and breath-taking renderings and photography, 432 Park has perhaps the most elaborate promotional campaign ever conceived for a Manhattan condominium.