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Old Posted Feb 23, 2010, 2:50 AM
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Well 1 WTC was built because it already had financing all lined up, but tower 4 is being built because that's the building where the Port Authority is going to move in when it's finished, (remember they used to be in the North tower of the original complex).
The Freedom Tower is getting built because it's paid for, but really it's getting built because former governor Pataki insisted the Freedom Tower be built first. Tower 2 was originally planned to be built before the FT, and when Pataki insisted on the FT being built first, Larry Silverstein tried to get the towers to "swap places" on the site plan (this before designs were finalized). It's a good thing, because otherwise the tallest tower on the site would be the one waiting for financing. Tower 4 likewise is also being built because about 2/3 of its space is spoken for, with 1/3 going to the Port, and another 1/3 going to the City (if no other takers come first).
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As expected, the lower levels will be bult, and the tower will be on hold until the market returns for it to be built.

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Tower 2: The Tower 2 site would be built to at least street level under a plan to be jointly developed by the Port Authority and Silverstein Properties. This plan would preserve flexibility for the future development of the office tower driven by market demand.
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As expected, the lower levels will be bult, and the tower will be on hold until the market returns for it to be built.

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By the time the lower levels are built the market will have returned and there will be a sizeable demand for Class 1 office space in lower Manhattan - and then the baby will get built. This is an exciting development for sure!
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By the time the lower levels are built the market will have returned and there will be a sizeable demand for Class 1 office space in lower Manhattan - and then the baby will get built. This is an exciting development for sure!
The hardest part is getting the foundations built, and getting the sites built up to street level. The midtown developers won't be pleased (although they're looking to get in on the Freedom Tower action) because these towers will compete with a list of Midtown developments currently on hold or waiting tenants. Getting these towers under construction now gives them an early advantage.
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The hardest part is getting the foundations built, and getting the sites built up to street level. The midtown developers won't be pleased (although they're looking to get in on the Freedom Tower action) because these towers will compete with a list of Midtown developments currently on hold or waiting tenants. Getting these towers under construction now gives them an early advantage.
midtown vs downtown, who will win? no seriously, i think there will be a lot of office demand in the next years (based on financial newspaper etc.). so i'm pretty sure that many projects which are currently on hold will resume. about the proposed towers (or even the approved ones like tower verre) i'm not so sure. their destiny depends on mostly (of course there are other factors which have to be considered) how the city's economy will develop.
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midtown vs downtown, who will win? no seriously, i think there will be a lot of office demand in the next years (based on financial newspaper etc.). so i'm pretty sure that many projects which are currently on hold will resume. about the proposed towers (or even the approved ones like tower verre) i'm not so sure. their destiny depends on mostly (of course there are other factors which have to be considered) how the city's economy will develop.
Lower Manhattan wins because they will have 1 WTC, which is going to be the tallest structure ever built in the city.
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BTW, people were wondering what would go here if the base or the retail portion isn't built above ground...
http://downtownexpress.com/de_361/morewtc.html

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The agreement leaves no insurance money or tax-free Liberty Bonds to pay for Tower 2. Chris Ward, executive director of the Port, said if market forces prevent construction of the tower, he would be open to Community Board 1’s recent recommendation to set up a temporary park, outdoor performance space or greenmarket at Vesey and Church Sts. He said there are no plans to build a retail podium at the site.

Bloomberg said he is just as confident as he was four years ago.

“You’re always confident when you go into everything,” he said. “I think what happened with the last deals is nobody thought the world was going to fall apart.”

The mayor said the city is recovering from the economic crisis faster than the rest of the country. Real estate brokers “are eating their ways through all of the sublet space,” Bloomberg said. “Now is the time to put a shovel in the ground….

“If you go back and look at all of the people who had planned to have new corporate headquarters in ’07 and the beginning of ‘08, I think not one of them has a new corporate headquarters. They still have all the needs.”
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Well, that's alrght. I mean history is actually repeating itself for the WTC site. Remember that the Marriott Hotel(formerly Vista) and 7WTC were built after the site was completed, so It's really not that big of a deal. It will be built, that's all I need.
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the park better only be temporary...
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I think the economy and the market demand for this tower and tower 3 will be totally different than it is today. The economy is already improving and I think that trend will continue.
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the park better only be temporary...
It says right there, in the quoted article, in blue bold, that it will be temporary.
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It says right there, in the quoted article, in blue bold, that it will be temporary.
yes but i dont trust the PA they seem to always say 1 thing and do another...
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yes but i dont trust the PA they seem to always say 1 thing and do another...
You shouldn't rely on the PA anyway, it's Silverstein's responsibility to build the tower. The foundations and lower levels of the tower will be built, the tower itself will be built if there are tenants for it, and with a foot in the ground already, why not?
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http://www.tribecatrib.com/news/2010/april/576_planned-wtc-tower-is-still-up-in-the-air.html

Planned World Trade Center Tower Is Still Up In the Air


Larry Silverstein's planned Tower 2, at the corner at Church and Vesey Streets, may not be build for several years,
and there are significant questions about what to do with the site in the meantime.


Janno Lieber, Silverstein Properties' President of World Trade Center Construction (left),
and Port Authority Executive Director Christopher Ward both appeared before Community Board 1 on April 12.



By Matt Dunning
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The recent announcement of a new construction agreement between the Port Authority and developer Larry Silverstein brings new hope for construction progress at the World Trade Center site. But one key project in the redevelopment of the site—Silverstein’s shimmering, diamond-crowned Tower 2—remains in construction purgatory.

The 78-story tower has been put off indefinitely, the victim of a lending market slow to recover from its collapse in 2008. And both the Port Authority and Silverstein Properties say it could be months before a decision is made on what to do with the site, now a barren dirt lot at Church and Vesey Streets.

“There have been discussions on what that site might become if there’s a longer-term [wait] for that tower, but it would be premature at this point to say what that would be,” the Port Authority’s executive director, Christopher Ward told a Community Board 1 committee on Monday. Ward appeared together with Janno Lieber, Silverstein’s top executive for World Trade Center projects, for the first time since announcing their long-awaited agreement last month.

During the committee meeting, Ward said the Port Authority would move forward with construction of the tower’s foundation up to street level, largely to facilitate construction and, eventually, access to the underground transportation center and retail complex. Above ground, Ward said the structure would support whatever building goes on top, whether it is British architect Lord Norman Foster’s Tower 2, or a more modest project, depending on the demands of the market.

“We’re working through the complexities of that,” Ward said. “It’s fairly complicated engineering when you want to maximize construction, while maintaining flexibility for the site going forward.”

Lieber said Silverstein Properties has not wavered from its intent to some day build the 1,254-foot tower as it was originally designed. However, he acknowledged that financing for it will not be available any time soon.

But, he added, “We’re not starting from scratch.”


”The site’s primary purpose will be to accommodate access to the transit hub,” Lieber said. “We all want to make sure that the entrance there is adequately designed for the circulation that it’s got to serve. How we finish it above [street level] is a topic that we’re still exploring together.”

Since the Port Authority and Silverstein announced the framework of their new agreement on March 25, members of Community Board 1 have been advocating for the Tower 2 site to be outfitted with some form of public use, such as a park, amphitheater or green market.

“At a bare minimum, we need to get our street grid back, and that corner’s really important to that sense of continuity,” said Catherine McVay Hughes, chairs CB1’s World Trade Center Redevelopment Committee. “None of us want to see an empty hole, or more painted blue plywood. It’s really critical that [the site] is returned to the people that live and work down here.”

Along Church Street, two of Silverstein’s three planned office towers will rise on the strength of publicly-backed loans under the terms of the agreement with the Port Authority, provided the developer can meet certain leasing and financing benchmarks. At the very least, one tower will be finished and the other will get a head start on construction as demand for office space in Lower Manhattan continues to recover.

Either way, the work will allow for the Port Authority, which owns the 16-acre site, to continue unabated in building its sprawling transportation center, underground retail corridors and restored city streets in the eastern half of the site.

As part of the deal between the Port Authority and Silverstein, both groups agreed to finalize their new construction plans within 120 days, giving them roughly until July 25 to come to a conclusion on the near-term fate of the Tower 2 site.
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It better not be any "Modest" project.
I don't see why it would be...

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Lieber said Silverstein Properties has not wavered from its intent to some day build the 1,254-foot tower as it was originally designed. However, he acknowledged that financing for it will not be available any time soon.

But, he added, “We’re not starting from scratch.”
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They should build this tower at the same height as One World Trade Center. I suppose that would make a nice difference. =)
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*The following information was last updated on June 10, 2010.

Greenwich Street corridor: Excavation and substructure construction under the 1 train box

Slurry wall removal, tieback installation and mud slab pours
Blasting operations for utility trench construction.

Tower 2: SPI began foundation work June 1, 2010
Tower 3: SPI begins foundation work on July 1, 2010
Tower 4: SPI mobilized in early 2008; steel and concrete installation underway
WTC Transportation Hub: Port Authority crews are performing foundation work and steel installation
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So great to hear this!!! Change the status in the diamgrams and move this thread!!
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