The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread - Page 40

Ottawa · #**781** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 8:51 PM**

I don't usually stick up for Liberals so please don't call me a Zed supporter, but in Mr. Zed's defence, Saint John has sat on the wrong side of the parliament for quite awhile. I can tell you it is pretty tough to get a lot of attention to your area when you're cozying up to the opposite party of the one in power.

kwajo · #**782** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 8:52 PM**

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About #5......... Irving will not be tearing both buildings down for an office tower. I just walked by their building on the corner of sydney st, and they have papers up in the windows, and they are renovating the inside of it, Lots of construction workers comming and going, so they are not going to renovate it now, just to tear it down in a year......

Yeah I know, I was spying on their blueprints the other day through the window before they covered them with paper.

I didn't say it was going to happen, just that I had heard that rumour. If the question were about what I thought was going to happen to the Paramount, I'd venture to guess it will stay vacant and rotting for at least another 6-8 years before anything happens to it.

kwajo · #**783** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 8:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ottawa

I don't usually stick up for Liberals so please don't call me a Zed supporter, but in Mr. Zed's defence, Saint John has sat on the wrong side of the parliament for quite awhile. I can tell you it is pretty tough to get a lot of attention to your area when you're cozying up to the opposite party of the one in power.

Paul is a good guy, but there isn't much to be done when he's in opposition, and in Atlantic Canada as well. No one around here has gotten anything significant since the Conservatives took power (or before then for that matter). Paul did do a great job with his work toward Harbour Cleanup, and this mediation of the talks about merging Transportation departments sounds promising, but other than there hasn't been much done.

michael_d40 · #**784** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 9:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by kwajo

Yeah I know, I was spying on their blueprints the other day through the window before they covered them with paper.

I didn't say it was going to happen, just that I had heard that rumour. If the question were about what I thought was going to happen to the Paramount, I'd venture to guess it will stay vacant and rotting for at least another 6-8 years before anything happens to it.

Actually The Maxx, (bar) in the 3 mile closed a couple weeks ago, due to lack ofpeople. Because a lot of people have been going to the new ozone bar on kings street.
Rumors have been circling that the owners of the 3mile are trying to buy the Old Paramount to put put a bar/club there. Which i think would be fantastic,
Already just in these past few months uptown @ night is much more vibrant with the boardwalk, the new Ozone bar, the new Uzone Internet cafe, thats open til 2am, then you have Club Blush (The strip club) Plus Studio 54, plus Melvins, and Tapps, and Elwoods, and so much more.
There is now something for anybody uptown in the evening regardless of Age, or whatever your into.
Saint John is transforming so rapidly, its amazing.
Good Things are happening here, thats for sure

kwajo · #**785** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 9:03 PM**

But by the same token, Elwoods has had to reduce the number of beers it carries to reduce costs, and Tapps is shutting down the microbrewery and has been on shaky ground for a while now.

Saint John is still Saint John: fickle as hell.

michael_d40 · #**786** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 9:05 PM**

True, depends on the place.
Where as Tapps and Elwoods may of had to do a few cutbacks,
Cougars, Studio 54, and Ozone, are thriving. I was @ 54 last night, and they had to stop letting people in there were so many, and over 50 people were still outside.
I guess it all depends on what the person wants....

Seely32 · #**787** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 9:29 PM**

I am glad to see more people moving uptown at night, I never liked the idea of most people heading out east for bars. Most thriving uptowns never sleep because of bar action. It may increase the amount of drunks uptown but the idea is to get people up here and spend money. What also needs to happen is that we need more fast food or restaurants that are open later uptown as well. We have 2 subways and Spago's but besides that there is not alot else open late at night. With more people out later you would think it would be prime for chain's like wendy's, burger king, and another Mcdonalds open later. Not saying there our best options but there options none the less. The new UNB building looks nice next to the Paramount and if it was fixed it would make King Square alot nicer. It kind of kills that our main uptown park has a coldsore like that on one side.

Also Welcome everyone to the forum.

michael_d40 · #**788** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 9:33 PM**

I agree with you about needing more restaurant options for later @ night... but uptown is set up so weird lol, Where could we even put a BK, or MCd's free standing restaurant? I cant really thing of anywhere... My only thought could be next to the new tims on King St, a Street front BK could probably work there....

Seely32 · #**789** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 9:37 PM**

Has anyone seen the building they are fixing at the corner of Princess and charlotte. Its going to be a travel agency the building was all brick now they added green metal siding on the back's of the building I think it looks terrible but i think its great for that corner more business and A little nicer area.

Also what happening to the building next to the Laudry mat on Princess it is supposed to be taken over by the SAint John theatre company??. That building would also take away from the kind of run down buildings around it.

I Agree with everyone else SAint JOhn has grown in these past 3 years than I saw the entire 16 years I visited once a year.

michael_d40 · #**790** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 9:40 PM**

[QUOTE=Seely32;3019379]Has anyone seen the building they are fixing at the corner of Princess and charlotte. Its going to be a travel agency

........Its always been a travel agency, they are simply renovating...

Seely32 · #**791** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 9:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by michael_d40

I agree with you about needing more restaurant options for later @ night... but uptown is set up so weird lol, Where could we even put a BK, or MCd's free standing restaurant? I cant really thing of anywhere... My only thought could be next to the new tims on King St, a Street front BK could probably work there....

I could see a BK on King and I would Like to see something on Canterbury or somehting on UNion. Union to me is where the most work is needed. I think getting rid of a couple of those bars like the Icebery and royal canadian. And I also think Rookies has shut down. SO somehting could be converted there it is a two story building.

Seely32 · #**792** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 9:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Seely32

Has anyone seen the building they are fixing at the corner of Princess and charlotte. Its going to be a travel agency

........Its always been a travel agency, they are simply renovating...

WHat do you think of the renovation??

michael_d40 · #**793** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 9:45 PM**

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WHat do you think of the renovation??

I'l make my comments Re: the renvovation, when its all complete

Seely32 · #**794** Posted **Aug 19, 2007, 9:56 PM**

With all kind's of new faces and more imput I am purchasing a domain and starting up a site dedicated to saint john architecture, city happening's as well ,as economic growth. I am going to do some photo tours as well as have some commetary on issues, and I was wondering if any of you would like to contribute photos, ideas, or commentary. My girlfriend is a journalism major and is on board I also have a friend who is a photographer. LEt me if you have any ideas or woud like to help out.

The more input the better thanks in ahead

michael_d40 · #**795** Posted **Aug 21, 2007, 6:19 PM**

[TENDER ANNOUNCED FOR TEARING DOWN THE "Y"]
AUGUST.21ST/2007/NEW FOR 10AM:

A MOVE TODAY BY THE PROVINCE WILL FOR-EVER CHANGE THE SKYLINE OF THE CITY. SUPPLY AND SERVICES HAS ANNOUNCED THE TENDER IS NOW BEING ADVERTISED FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE Y’S FORMER HOME ON HAZEN AVENUE TO MAKE WAY FOR THE NEW $40 MILLION DOLLAR JUSTICE COMPLEX. SUPPLY AND SERVICES MINISTER ROLY MACINTYRE EXPECTS THE TEARING DOWN OF THE BUILDING TO BEGIN THIS FALL AND SHOULD BE FINISHED BY DECEMBER.

BIDS FOR THE TENDER WILL CLOSE ON SEPT.6TH/2007. PENDING APPROVAL OF BUDGETS.....CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW JUSTICE COMPLEX IS EXPECTED TO GET STARTED IN THE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR AND SHOULD BE FINISHED LATE 2009 EARLY 2010.

[REACTION TO "Y" BUILDING BEING DEMOLISHED]
AUGUST.21ST/2007/NEW FOR 11AM:

CITY HALL VERY PLEASED TO HEAR THE TENDERS HAVE GONE OUT FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE FORMER YM-YWCA FACILITY ON HAZEN AVENUE. MAYOR McFARLANE TELLS CHSJ NEWS, HE HATES TO SEE ANY BUILDING IN SAINT JOHN SIT EMPTY.

McFARLANE SAYS WHEN YOU PUT THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT AND UNDER-GROUND PARKING FACILITY INTO THE MIX.....TOTAL COST OF THIS PROJECT COULD EASILY TOP $70 MILLION DOLLARS.

Helladog · #**796** Posted **Aug 21, 2007, 6:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by michael_d40

[TENDER ANNOUNCED FOR TEARING DOWN THE "Y"]
AUGUST.21ST/2007/NEW FOR 10AM:

A MOVE TODAY BY THE PROVINCE WILL FOR-EVER CHANGE THE SKYLINE OF THE CITY. SUPPLY AND SERVICES HAS ANNOUNCED THE TENDER IS NOW BEING ADVERTISED FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE Y’S FORMER HOME ON HAZEN AVENUE TO MAKE WAY FOR THE NEW $40 MILLION DOLLAR JUSTICE COMPLEX. SUPPLY AND SERVICES MINISTER ROLY MACINTYRE EXPECTS THE TEARING DOWN OF THE BUILDING TO BEGIN THIS FALL AND SHOULD BE FINISHED BY DECEMBER.

BIDS FOR THE TENDER WILL CLOSE ON SEPT.6TH/2007. PENDING APPROVAL OF BUDGETS.....CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW JUSTICE COMPLEX IS EXPECTED TO GET STARTED IN THE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR AND SHOULD BE FINISHED LATE 2009 EARLY 2010.

[REACTION TO "Y" BUILDING BEING DEMOLISHED]
AUGUST.21ST/2007/NEW FOR 11AM:

CITY HALL VERY PLEASED TO HEAR THE TENDERS HAVE GONE OUT FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE FORMER YM-YWCA FACILITY ON HAZEN AVENUE. MAYOR McFARLANE TELLS CHSJ NEWS, HE HATES TO SEE ANY BUILDING IN SAINT JOHN SIT EMPTY.

McFARLANE SAYS WHEN YOU PUT THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT AND UNDER-GROUND PARKING FACILITY INTO THE MIX.....TOTAL COST OF THIS PROJECT COULD EASILY TOP $70 MILLION DOLLARS.

It'll be nice to see that ugly box replaced with something else. Hopefully the new building add something good to the skyline...

PostModernPrometheus · #**797** Posted **Aug 21, 2007, 6:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by michael_d40

[TENDER ANNOUNCED FOR TEARING DOWN THE "Y"]
AUGUST.21ST/2007/NEW FOR 10AM:

A MOVE TODAY BY THE PROVINCE WILL FOR-EVER CHANGE THE SKYLINE OF THE CITY. SUPPLY AND SERVICES HAS ANNOUNCED THE TENDER IS NOW BEING ADVERTISED FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE Y’S FORMER HOME ON HAZEN AVENUE TO MAKE WAY FOR THE NEW $40 MILLION DOLLAR JUSTICE COMPLEX. SUPPLY AND SERVICES MINISTER ROLY MACINTYRE EXPECTS THE TEARING DOWN OF THE BUILDING TO BEGIN THIS FALL AND SHOULD BE FINISHED BY DECEMBER.

BIDS FOR THE TENDER WILL CLOSE ON SEPT.6TH/2007. PENDING APPROVAL OF BUDGETS.....CONSTRUCTION OF THE NEW JUSTICE COMPLEX IS EXPECTED TO GET STARTED IN THE SPRING OF NEXT YEAR AND SHOULD BE FINISHED LATE 2009 EARLY 2010.

[REACTION TO "Y" BUILDING BEING DEMOLISHED]
AUGUST.21ST/2007/NEW FOR 11AM:

CITY HALL VERY PLEASED TO HEAR THE TENDERS HAVE GONE OUT FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE FORMER YM-YWCA FACILITY ON HAZEN AVENUE. MAYOR McFARLANE TELLS CHSJ NEWS, HE HATES TO SEE ANY BUILDING IN SAINT JOHN SIT EMPTY.

McFARLANE SAYS WHEN YOU PUT THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT AND UNDER-GROUND PARKING FACILITY INTO THE MIX.....TOTAL COST OF THIS PROJECT COULD EASILY TOP $70 MILLION DOLLARS.

Fantastic news - yet another developmental cornerstone to catalyse further development in the city; i can't help but wonder, though, what kind of traffic problems are going to be created in that area

. . . . . . . parking is a desperate issue in the uptown, and a third large scale lot (preferably underground) is most certainly needed.

I'm assuming that the new police/justice complex, when completed, will be joined to the "Inside Connection"?

Cheers.

PostModernPrometheus · #**798** Posted **Aug 21, 2007, 6:48 PM**

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The more input the better thanks in ahead

Great idea - keep us in the loop once the site is up & running.

PersonPlaceorThing · #**799** Posted **Aug 21, 2007, 6:54 PM**

Has anyone heard much about 87 Canterbury? It looks like it will be pretty nice.

I've copied the listing of the property (for lease) from the MLS service:

Heritage space for lease: uptown saint john
A total of 19400 sqft leaseable area on 3 floors (approx. 6500sqft per floor). Currently open concept. Heritage building being redeveloped. In addition to 2nd and 3rd floor 65oo sqft available on ground floor – a rare find in uptown saint john today. Excellent for office space. Retail gallery, restaurant, coffee shop, etc. Owner’s vision for building is a trendy mixed-use development. Strategic location next to the john law building and just around the corner from on of the highest concentrations of successful restaurants/bars in uptown saint john. (ie. Sebastians, Lemon Grass, O’learys and Happinez). 2nd floor will be accessible by wide, attractive staircase. Potential for an elevator as building develops. Building features brick exterior façade. Interior exposed brick and beams. Lots of windows providing ample natural light. Flexible floor plan lease any size space. Landlord to provide base building improvements.

GUB · #**800** Posted **Aug 22, 2007, 5:36 PM**

Anyone heard any news on the proposed Irving office tower??