Carlingwood Shopping Centre Redevelopment

[Harley613]

I didn't click the link. I think we are all squared away. I have professed my love for SideTrackedSue, you and I are still spirit animals, and the wind in Ottawa still comes from the West.

[ponyboycurtis]

Good for calling something out if you see it.

You guys and this forum have helped me a ton since I got back to Ottawa and have had a tough time feeling the mojo of life the last couple years. This place allows me to contribute something that I care a lot about even if I have a hard time articulating it. I would never willingly get into a personal dispute or slander over something that I think we all care about which is a well functioning and accessible city for all walks of life.

To re-iterate.. I was just saying what the sign was ACTUALLY saying.

XOXO Sue!

[Harley613]

Originally Posted by ponyboycurtis

Good for calling something out if you see it.

You guys and this forum have helped me a ton since I got back to Ottawa and have had a tough time feeling the mojo of life the last couple years. This place allows me to contribute something that I care a lot about even if I have a hard time articulating it. I would never willingly get into a personal dispute or slander over something that I think we all care about which is a well functioning and accessible city for all walks of life.

To re-iterate.. I was just saying what the sign was ACTUALLY saying.

XOXO Sue!

I love this. I love you! I love Sue. All is well.

[vtecyo]

Originally Posted by SidetrackedSue

Geez, I could have sworn there was one.

The Superstore one is now closed, lost to Covid. Since it was part of the planning approval compromise with the neighbourhood, I'm not sure what steps should be taken to get it back. We got the corner one (at McCrae) back about a month ago.

Edit:

This (April 2021) shows a sign that says "New Main Entrance Around Building" which makes me think maybe the Canadian Tire street front entrance (which was obviously there at one time because who would put in a wheelchair ramp to a fake door?) was closed after a respectful amount of time to pretend they were following the site plan rules.

https://goo.gl/maps/3yyBffRxMwoipRUa9

It looks like they've reopened the entrance at the NW corner of the building on Richmond.

Originally Posted by LRTeverywhere

Good News! They seem to have seen all the tweets about it and have reopened the door at Richmond and McRae.

Originally Posted by J.OT13

Good project that at least largely hides the surface parking lot. Now if only Superstore could have a door on Richmond for people arriving by foot/bike.

[SidetrackedSue]

Originally Posted by originalmuffins

I read it the same way you did at first, but as I reread it, I think Pony just forgot to put quotations as if Canadian Tire management was talking to a pedestrian.



I think there was just a mistyping of what was meant to be said.

I read it as it was meant, mocking CT, not me. And I immediately went to hit the 'like' button which I wish this forum had!

[originalmuffins]

Originally Posted by SidetrackedSue

I read it as it was meant, mocking CT, not me. And I immediately went to hit the 'like' button which I wish this forum had!

Glad you saw it that way too! I wish there was a like button too, but I kind of like the old forum style too, takes me back to the older days of the Internet (classic nostalgia haha).

[ponyboycurtis]

Originally Posted by SidetrackedSue

I read it as it was meant, mocking CT, not me. And I immediately went to hit the 'like' button which I wish this forum had!

I'm more of a get suspended from Reddit kind of guy anyhow

Originally Posted by originalmuffins

Glad you saw it that way too! I wish there was a like button too, but I kind of like the old forum style too, takes me back to the older days of the Internet (classic nostalgia haha).

This forum is a little clunky but once you get used to it, it's not so bad.

I know how to multi-quote now!

Which to re-iterate what someone said the other day... you have the " thingy next to quote.. you tag multiple people and then just go down and hit reply and it will quote in the order you tagged people.

[OTSkyline]

The new store at Carlingwood is now open. The biggest in Canada and one of their flagship new retail models. Will walk over to check it out soon!

[J.OT13]

Canada's largest Canadian Tire store opens in Ottawa

Josh Pringle
CTV Ottawa, September 22, 2022

The largest Canadian Tire store in Canada is now open at Ottawa's Carlingwood Shopping Centre.

As Canadian Tire celebrates its 100th birthday this month, the company opened a 135,000 sq. ft. store in the location of the former Sears store at the mall on Carling Avenue.

Billed as a "Remarkable Retail" Canadian Tire location, the store includes a six-car Customer Pick Up canopy area for customers to Click and Collect their online purchases, a Garden Centre, and an auto service department with an auto-lounge and upscale tire wall.


"It's a wonderful morning here in Carlingwood Mall and we couldn't be prouder to open this store," Jason Kane, Canadian Tire vice-president of Store Planning and Design, told CTV Morning Live shortly after the doors opened on Thursday.

"Remarkable Retail is all about showing customers the best that we have across our brands and products, and being able to deliver an amazing customer experience throughout the store."

Kane says it was a "special moment" to open the store after years of planning and construction.

"It's a great milestone. This month is Canadian Tire's 100th birthday, so we wanted to mark it with something special and make a big investment here in Ottawa with a great retail experience."

Construction on the new store in the Carlingwood Shopping Centre began in the fall of 2019.

Canadian Tire says all customer and employee washrooms in the new store are gender neutral.

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/canada-s-l...tawa-1.6079628

Check-out 1:30 on the video. I wish our O-Train Stations had that level of vertical circulation.

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[originalmuffins]

It honestly looks really nice, and I'm glad Ottawa got a flagship and the biggest CT in Canada. That's really cool.

That lounge area is nice!

[MoreTrains]

Originally Posted by OTSkyline

The new store at Carlingwood is now open. The biggest in Canada and one of their flagship new retail models. Will walk over to check it out soon!

Take photos so we know what a CT new retail model looks like, or if it is the same vanilla white floors, shelves and ceilings but with 2" wider aisles.

[Davis137]

Glad to know their overpriced merch and outrageously expensive credit cards have made this all possible...

[Harley613]

Carlingwood is for sale, with the intention of redeveloping it. I'm sure we'll see a plan for ten Charcwhite towers 16-30 stories from one of the usual suspects before long.

https://renx.ca/ottawa-mall-home-can...-tire-for-sale

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Harley613

Carlingwood is for sale, with the intention of redeveloping it. I'm sure we'll see a plan for ten Charcwhite towers 16-30 stories from one of the usual suspects before long.

https://renx.ca/ottawa-mall-home-can...-tire-for-sale

Expand the Loblaws, reduce the retail component on the north side, tear out the north end parking garage, and build some housing/towers between the mall and Haymarket. Some bits (the banks, the drug store, the dollarama) are busy, but at the moment the place works best as a fast-food food hall for seniors. A small professional building at the corner of Woodroofe and Carling might make the parking lot seem a bit less bleak.

[Jay31]

I may have missed it, but I didn't see any discussion on this.. Carlingwood Shopping Centre has been put on the market:
https://renx.ca/ottawa-mall-home-can...-tire-for-sale

I guess it puts a question mark over the site until the buyer is announced and makes their intentions clear.

I moved nearby a few years back, and the state of the mall is mixed. The Canadian Tire has definitely brought in more people and some stores (Dollarama, Rexall, Loblaws,..and a few others) look to be doing well, but there are also many empty stores and the overall mall feels tired and not well managed.

The property itself seems like it could be a lot more given that it's a relatively central location in the city with massive parking lots. You could definitely add a few residential towers, but I do hope that that the new owners look to grow it as a retail centre as well...ideally, looking to grow the mall rather than turn it into another Merivale style box mall (which seems probable). I also hope it doesn't turn into another Lincoln Fields where they bulldoze the mall and leave it as mostly empty piece of land for years.

[Harley613]

Originally Posted by Jay31

I may have missed it, but I didn't see any discussion on this.. Carlingwood Shopping Centre has been put on the market:
https://renx.ca/ottawa-mall-home-can...-tire-for-sale

I guess it puts a question mark over the site until the buyer is announced and makes their intentions clear.

I moved nearby a few years back, and the state of the mall is mixed. The Canadian Tire has definitely brought in more people and some stores (Dollarama, Rexall, Loblaws,..and a few others) look to be doing well, but there are also many empty stores and the overall mall feels tired and not well managed.

The property itself seems like it could be a lot more given that it's a relatively central location in the city with massive parking lots. You could definitely add a few residential towers, but I do hope that that the new owners look to grow it as a retail centre as well...ideally, looking to grow the mall rather than turn it into another Merivale style box mall (which seems probable). I also hope it doesn't turn into another Lincoln Fields where they bulldoze the mall and leave it as mostly empty piece of land for years.

I began a discussion about it yesterday in the General Retails News thread

[J.OT13]

I quite like Carlingwood. We go there a few times a year for certain stores that our not found anywhere else. I think the street front on Carling could easily be redeveloped. Very few people park all the way there. That alone could bolster the mall.

[OTSkyline]

Agreed, parts of the mall work and are quite busy (Loblaws, Canadian Tire, Food Court, Banks, Rexall, Dollarama), so it's not so bleak to just give up on it.

The old parkades on the north and northeast sides could probably come down. And addition of housing there and along Carling would be great.

[SidetrackedSue]

Originally Posted by Jay31

I may have missed it, but I didn't see any discussion on this.. Carlingwood Shopping Centre has been put on the market:
https://renx.ca/ottawa-mall-home-can...-tire-for-sale
....

I moved nearby a few years back, and the state of the mall is mixed.

I ended up taking shelter there during yesterday's storm (more for my car than for me) yesterday and shops were closing early due to no-one there. Water was leaking in through the glass roofs in many places, lots of buckets set up. (I was walking laps to get my exercise in while waiting to head back out to pick up my husband in Centrepoint - given the state of the flooded roads, I didn't want to go all the way home in case I couldn't get back out again.)

I'm sure we'd lose the covered parking at the back in a redevelopment but it sure is a benefit when you have to be out in this year's unprecedented weather.

[rocketphish]

Ottawa mall, site of Canada's largest Canadian Tire, is for sale
Carlingwood Shopping Centre has needs-based tenants, intensification and redevelopment potential

Don Wilcox, Managing Editor, RENX
Jul. 17 2023



An Ottawa shopping centre which is home to Canadian Tire’s new flagship quarter-million-square-foot store is being marketed for sale.

The 632,700-square-foot Carlingwood Shopping Centre is located along the Carling Avenue corridor in the city’s west end. It’s being marketed by TD Securities and the Cushman & Wakefield Ottawa office for property manager Strathallen.

In an email exchange with RENX, TD Securities’ director of real estate brokerage Elliot Medoff called the site a “rare opportunity to acquire a high-quality, well-tenanted shopping centre in a growing, transit-oriented neighbourhood providing stable cash flow and meaningful future development potential, 15 minutes west of downtown Ottawa.

“Anchored by Canadian Tire, Loblaw(s) grocery store, Rexall pharmacy and Dollarama, Carlingwood has an impressive group of core tenants which represent 65 per cent of the property’s total GLA.

Notably the property is home to Canada's largest Canadian Tire location occupying 263,500 square feet, with 19 years of lease term remaining.”
Canadian Tire leases former Sears location

The sprawling, two-level Canadian Tire store opened in 2022.

Strathallen demolished and redeveloped a former Sears box at the west end of the 30-acre property to accommodate Canadian Tire, which was moving its existing outlet from a location just east of the shopping centre.

It also contains a fitness centre, health-care tenants and three banks.

The Carlingwood site is also part of a city bus transit hub and near a future stop on Ottawa’s east-west light-rail transit line expansion which is currently under construction.

“In addition to the transit-oriented location within 800 metres of the New Orchard LRT Station, surrounded by substantial new mix-used development, the asset has been managed to the highest institutional standards for multiple decades with material investments made by both the vendor and tenants,” Medoff wrote.

Another attraction for potential buyers is that the property has considerable future intensification and redevelopment potential.

“A near-term opportunity exists to construct approximately 350,000 square feet of residential density on the northeast portion of the site,” Medoff wrote.

“From a long-ago term perspective, the property provides an opportunity for further intensification through a large, master-planned redevelopment.”
Redevelopment along Ottawa's Carling Avenue

The precedent for intensification is already in place along the Carling Avenue corridor, which connects the edge of downtown Ottawa with the suburban west end.

RioCan REIT (REI-UN-T) owns two regional shopping properties along the corridor, several kilometres east and west of Carlingwood, and is redeveloping both sites.

RioCan has a multi-tower residential intensification project underway at the Westgate shopping centre, and similar plans for the former Lincoln Fields shopping centre. At both sites, retail buildings are being redeveloped in multiple phases with mixes of residential and commercial/retail assets.

As is the case at Carlingwood, both those properties will have nearby access to the expanded LRT system.

Medoff said there continues to be investor interest in well-located and well-tenanted retail properties even as the sector retools to accommodate an increase in e-commerce and navigates an uncertain economy.

“As an asset class, retail has outperformed in 2023 amid overall negative market returns,” Medoff wrote. “Strong demand remains for necessity-based, grocery-anchored retail on large pieces of land.”

He cited the recent sale of Conestoga Mall to Primaris REIT (PMZ-UN-T) for $270 million as one example. The 585,000-square-foot mall sits on a 49.8-acre property.

“Our team recently represented Ivanhoé Cambridge on the sale of Conestoga Mall, in Waterloo, Ont., to Primaris REIT. This marquee transaction closed last week and demonstrates the strong interest in the sector from not only private capital, but also from publicly traded issuers.”

https://renx.ca/ottawa-mall-home-can...-tire-for-sale